The Sage Sayers

Debbi Gardiner McCullough

A weekly podcast on ways to stay calm and compel others as you communicate. Along with executive communications tips and strategies, we interview intriguing individuals who've found the "Sage approach" by finding gifts, opportunities, and knowledge within trying situations. New Zealander show host, Debbi Gardiner McCullough, has written on social and business trends and struggles for the Economist, the Guardian, and Financial Times of London. She's a self-retired college professor of writing, an executive communications and narrative coach. Visit her at: www.hangingrockcoaching.com

  1. “We can listen for information and for relationship.” Interviewing Dr. Haru Yamada, author of “KIKU: The Japanese Art of Good Listening”

    FEB 27

    “We can listen for information and for relationship.” Interviewing Dr. Haru Yamada, author of “KIKU: The Japanese Art of Good Listening”

    We turn the spotlight this week on Dr. Haru Yamada, a sociolinguist, listening intelligence researcher, and author of “KIKU: The Japanese Art of Good Listening” to discover just how we do listen? Also, why performative skills like speaking, presenting, and offering ideas can overshadow (in many cultures) the often under-tapped skills of listening, both for receiving information and strengthening relationships.   We hear Dr. Yamada's approach to listening, which includes listening with our heart and of the Japanese concept of “kiku,” a deep, empathetic form of listening to communicate, connect, and become more present and understanding in our interactions.  Japanese language teaches us a lot about listening, Haru reminds us. The kanji character for "to listen" (kiku, 聴) has "fourteen hearts" and is composed of an ear (耳), the number ten (十), an eye (目), and a heart (心) on the bottom, symbolizing deep, empathetic listening.  You can find Dr. Haru Yamada on LinkedIn. And follow her Substack. Her book’s now in paperback as well on Amazon.  Debbi McCullough has written for the Economist, FT, and Guardian and serves as a Master Certified Coach and communications coach to leaders at Fortune 500s/100s including Google. Find her on LinkedIn.  Book her for a consult on small talk, job interviews, or the communication challenge irking you most. Join her next active listening workshop for leaders: Listen Like a Boss.

    28 min
  2. "When I struggle connecting with someone, I ask about their day." Interviewing Austin Sussel.

    FEB 14

    "When I struggle connecting with someone, I ask about their day." Interviewing Austin Sussel.

    Like many effervescent people, Ohio-based Austin Sussel has little trouble connecting even with strangers, and even at work. He got great at it, actually, as an international account manager of Fortune 100/500s. But even Austin struggles at times when the connection's not there. Or worse, the receiver of your attempts to converse stone walls you.   "In those moments, sales leaders told me I ought to compliment them on their shoes they're wearing," he laughs. "But I find what works best is simply asking about their day--or what's happening next." The key, he says: "Be curious. Be kind. And keep it short, simple, and about them." Learn tips and tactics on listening and human connection from two conversationalists who love it. Also hear about active listening and comfort with pause and silence in conversation, especially what I learned from certifying as a Master Certified Coach last week, something Austin asks me about. (Because he's curious, and that kind of friend.) You can reach out to Austin Sussel on LinkedIn here.  Debbi McCullough has written for the Economist, FT, and Guardian and serves as a Master Certified Coach and communications coach to leaders at Fortune 500s/100s including Google. Find her on LinkedIn.  Book her for a consult on small talk, job interviews, or the communication challenge irking you most. Join her next active listening workshop for leaders: Listen Like a Boss.

    30 min

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A weekly podcast on ways to stay calm and compel others as you communicate. Along with executive communications tips and strategies, we interview intriguing individuals who've found the "Sage approach" by finding gifts, opportunities, and knowledge within trying situations. New Zealander show host, Debbi Gardiner McCullough, has written on social and business trends and struggles for the Economist, the Guardian, and Financial Times of London. She's a self-retired college professor of writing, an executive communications and narrative coach. Visit her at: www.hangingrockcoaching.com