The Sales Docket

Steven Rapp & Tim Garner
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Our goal is simple: 1. Highlight excellence: We are talking to the heavy hitters who are crushing quotas and solving real client problems. 2. Educate the next gen: If you are new to legal tech sales, this is your bootcamp. We are sharing the tactical "talk tracks," strategies, and lessons that usually take a decade to learn. We aren't just talking theory. We are talking revenue, relationships, and results.

Episodes

  1. Jul 21

    The Sales Docket (Eric Toder)

    Hosts Steve Rapp and Tim Garner interview long-time industry colleague Eric Toder (currently at TCDI). Together, they reflect on their nearly 30-year journey in the legal sales and services industry, tracing the evolution of sales methodologies from paper photocopies and door-to-door selling to modern e-discovery and AI-driven solutions. The conversation focuses on adapting to an evolving buyer landscape, managing long sales cycles, learning how to handle rejection, and transitioning from being viewed as a commodity vendor to a trusted, high-value partner.

  2. Jul 10

    The Sales Docket with Nicole Rapp and Abby Emmans

    This transcript features a conversation from The Sales Docket podcast where veteran sales professionals Steve Rapp and Tim Garner are interviewed by their younger counterparts, Abbey Emmans and Nicole Rapp. The discussion focuses on sharing career wisdom and sales strategies tailored for the next generation entering the legal technology and eDiscovery sectors. The veterans emphasize that while AI and modern data sources have changed the technical landscape, the core of success remains rooted in trust, curiosity, and relationship building. They advise the younger duo to become technical experts in their field while maintaining a strong work ethic and the ability to advance sales through sincere communication. The recording concludes with practical guidance on entrepreneurship, suggesting that young professionals should establish their own legal entities early to prepare for future opportunities.

  3. May 26

    The Sales Docket with Rodger Moss, Jr (Partner at Brown Rudnick)

    Whether you are selling legal services or software, Rodger's insights on building a book of business are pure gold. Here are my top takeaways for anyone looking to level up their sales game:🔹 Authenticity Wins: People can spot inauthenticity from a mile away. Build genuine, meaningful relationships over time and get to know people as humans rather than just viewing them as transactions. 🔹 Lead with Service: Approach prospects with a "How can I help?" mindset. Even if you aren't the right fit for a specific problem, helping them find the right solution builds long-term trust and repeat business down the line. 🔹 Know Your Fit: Don't try to be everything to everyone. Build an ideal client profile, understand what they value (such as first-class, 6-star service), and focus your energy where there is strong alignment. 🔹 Outwork the Rest: There is simply no substitute for hard work and consistency. Be willing to get on the road to meet clients face-to-face, and be available to solve their problems when they need you most. 🔹 Adapt to AI: AI won't necessarily take your job, but a professional leveraging AI will. Embrace new technologies to scale your efforts and become more productive while doubling down on the human connection that AI cannot replicate.

  4. May 11

    The Sales Docket (David Angarola)

    In this podcast transcript, Dave Angarola discusses his professional journey and shares veteran sales strategies with hosts Steve Rapp and Tim Garner. The conversation highlights the importance of long-term client retention and the value of a strong foundational work ethic, which Angarola instills in his team through rigorous early training. He emphasizes that modern sales success requires investing in the success of others, specifically by helping clients with their own business development to build genuine rapport. The group explores how adapting to industry shifts, such as the transition from paper to digital and the rise of AI, is essential for career longevity. Ultimately, the source provides a mentorship-focused look at how leadership and corporate culture can remove obstacles to empower high-performing sales teams.

  5. Apr 24

    The Sales Docket ( Ted Anger)

    In this episode of the Sales Docket, hosts Steven Rapp and Timothy Garner dive in with their former colleague, Tedd Anger. The discussion centers on Anger’s extensive career path, beginning with gritty door-to-door sales in 1990s New York City before transitioning into the legal and real estate sectors. The participants reflect on the intense training and high-pressure environments that shaped their professional identities, emphasizing the value of a "foxhole mentality" among teammates. Anger shares his core philosophy for success, which prioritizes unwavering preparation, personal accountability, and the Golden Rule over raw talent. He also discusses how maintaining a positive attitude and a spirit of gratitude can help modern professionals navigate industry shifts and difficult clientele. Ultimately, the source highlights how foundational sales experiences and strong mentorship serve as a permanent springboard for long-term career growth.

  6. Mar 27

    The Sales Docket (Steve Kaplan)

    Our first mentor joins The Sales Docket and tells us stories, shares gems and highlights some key managment tips in his amazing career.

  7. Mar 16

    The Sales Docket (Donte Hubbard)

    This Sales Docket focues on the professional trajectory and leadership philosophy of Donte Hubbard, a veteran executive in the legal technology and e-discovery sectors. His professional history highlights a career spanning over 25 years, progressing from an entry-level account manager to high-level roles such as President and Chief Revenue Officer. In the accompanying interview, Hubbard emphasizes his shift from traditional sales tactics to a consultative, solution-oriented approach that prioritizes human relationships and innovation. He discusses the evolution of the industry from physical paper to AI-driven technology, advocating for a hybrid leadership model that balances executive strategy with active sales involvement. Hubbard also stresses the importance of equity, adaptability, and maintaining a work-life balance within modern, remote professional environments. Ultimately, the materials portray a leader focused on mentorship and navigating industry-wide changes by identifying untapped market opportunities.

  8. Feb 27

    The Sales Docket ( Mark Wentworth)

    The discussion focuses on the evolution of enterprise software sales, the importance of mentorship, and strategies for navigating complex committee-based deals. Key Themes: Mastery of sales fundamentals, the transition from selling services to disruptive software, and the "trusted advisor" approach to client relationships.

  9. Feb 20

    The Sales Docket (Twilla Case)

    In this episode of The Sales Docket, Tim Garner and Steven Rapp, with guest Twilla Case, the conversation centers on the intersection of legal expertise and high-level sales strategy. The interview highlights how "subject matter expertise" is the ultimate leverage in a crowded market.

  10. Jan 14

    The Sales Docket (Adam Rubinger)

    In this episode of The Sales Docket, Tim Garner and Steven Rapp with guest Adam Rubinger, discuss the evolving world of sales, particularly within the legal technology and services industry. They provide a masterclass in shifting from a transactional salesperson to a high-valueconsultative partner. The conversation focuses heavily on authenticity, deepcuriosity, and navigating the complexities of modern B2B sales.

  11. Jan 5

    The Sales Docket Podcast #1 (Steve Rapp & Tim Garner)

    Sales Cheat Sheet: Lessons from 30 Years in the Game (Steven Rapp and Tim Garner) 1. Mindset & Personality The "Goldfish" Mentality: Don't take "no" personally. A "no" is often just a timing issue or a step closer to the next "yes" [11:05].Be Yourself: Authenticity beats a script every time. Tim Garner noted that his career took off only after he stopped following a rigid sales spiel and started sharing his own personality and interests [08:05].Integrity is Your Currency: In the legal industry, your word is everything. Being honest—even if it means losing a project—builds a 30-year reputation that follows you everywhere [23:10]. 2. Pre-Meeting Strategy Find Commonality: Use tools like LinkedIn, Facebook, or even office decor to find a personal connection (hobbies, sports, hometowns) before diving into business [14:34].The "Great Listener" Rule: Once you spark a personal conversation, shut up and listen. It builds trust and creates a comfortable environment for the client [15:19]. 3. High-Level Sales Tactics Walk Away from Bad Business: Not all revenue is good revenue. If a deal has no margin or compromises your quality, having the confidence to walk away often earns more respect and can even lead the client to come back on your terms [18:45].Don’t Be Intimidated: Whether dealing with high-powered attorneys or CEOs, remember they are people with the same daily stresses and needs as anyone else. Stand your ground professionally [21:51]. 4. Career Growth & Evolution Embrace Change Early: Don’t get stuck in what you know (e.g., "being a paper guy"). Lean into new technologies like eDiscovery or AI immediately rather than resisting them [19:31].Find a Mentor: Identify the smartest, most influential person in the room and "latch on" to learn their habits and mindset [05:52].Compete with Yourself: Use leaderboards as motivation, but focus on consistently beating your own "best month" to reach your full potential [12:33].

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Our goal is simple: 1. Highlight excellence: We are talking to the heavy hitters who are crushing quotas and solving real client problems. 2. Educate the next gen: If you are new to legal tech sales, this is your bootcamp. We are sharing the tactical "talk tracks," strategies, and lessons that usually take a decade to learn. We aren't just talking theory. We are talking revenue, relationships, and results.

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  • Creator
    Steven Rapp & Tim Garner
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Steven Rapp & Tim Garner
  • Show Website
    The Sales Docket