The Scaleup Flight

Peeyush Upadhyay

The Scaleup Flight, hosted by Peeyush Upadhyay, is a series of fireside chats encapsulating some of the most incredible, intriguing, and inspiring scaleup journeys of Founders, Investors, and Executives. Free of jargon, buzzwords, and PR stunts, these are real, authentic, relatable, and humane conversations through which we get a peek into the entrepreneurial pursuits of those who had the courage and conviction to take the long flight and the capability to make an impact on the big stage. Peeyush Upadhyay is the Co-Founder & Managing Partner at Pekamiar and serves as a trusted advisor to Tech startup Founders and C-suite and helps them accelerate their growth momentum by formulating and executing their Talent strategies. He partners with Early & Growth-stage Tech firms and helps them scale by helping build high-performance, diverse, and inclusive Leadership & GTM teams. Before founding Pekamiar, he worked at industry-leading global software & technology services firms like Automation Anywhere and Infosys in Sales & Strategic Partnerships roles. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episodes

  1. Why Tech Moats Are Dying in AI — and What Actually Scales Instead - In Conversation with Priya Saiprasad, GP at TC

    JAN 5

    Why Tech Moats Are Dying in AI — and What Actually Scales Instead - In Conversation with Priya Saiprasad, GP at TC

    Guest: Priya Saiprasad — Co-Founder & General Partner, Touring Capital Host: Peeyush Upadhyay — Managing Partner, Pekamiar In this episode of The Scale Up Flight, Peeyush Upadhyay sits down with Priya Saiprasad, Co-Founder and General Partner at Touring Capital, a $330M early-growth fund backing SaaS and AI companies. Priya shares how her global upbringing—having lived in 12 countries by age 12—shaped her resilience, adaptability, and founder-first investing philosophy. Drawing from her experience at Square, Microsoft M12, Mayfield, and SoftBank Vision Fund, she unpacks what truly drives scale in today’s AI-powered economy. The conversation goes deep into what venture investors underestimate, why technology moats are eroding, and how capital efficiency, talent, and go-to-market defensibility are becoming the real differentiators. Priya also offers candid advice for founders on choosing the right investors, navigating board dynamics, making tough people decisions, and building companies that compound over time—not just ride hype cycles. This episode is a must-listen for SaaS and AI founders, operators, and investors navigating the Series B/C transition in an increasingly volatile market. Chapters with TimeStamps 00:00 – 02:15 Introduction: Highlights & Welcoming Priya Saiprasad 02:16 – 06:10 Why diversity in VC is essential to finding true alpha 06:11 – 09:55 The M12 female founders initiative & uncovering overlooked founder talent 09:56 – 13:55 How a global childhood shaped resilience, adaptability, and founder empathy 13:56 – 18:30 Why the founder journey is inherently nonlinear—and deeply lonely 18:31 – 22:40 Square, Jack Dorsey, and the power of true meritocracy 22:41 – 26:40 A painful early investing lesson: product strength vs. “why now” markets 26:41 – 31:40 Contrarian investing, herd mentality, and resisting FOMO in hot markets 31:41 – 35:20 Why “tech as a moat” is eroding in the AI era 35:21 – 39:50 Capital efficiency vs. growth at all costs (and the Zoom example) 39:51 – 43:30 Where AI investing is overcrowded—and where real opportunity lies 43:31 – 47:10 What Priya looks for in a 30-minute founder pitch 47:11 – 49:55 How founders should diligence investors (beyond the size of the check) 49:56 – 52:40 Why most scale-up failures ultimately come down to talent decisions 52:41 – 55:50 The VC as confidant: trust, vulnerability, and founder peer networks 55:51 – 59:30 How Priya competes, takes risks, and shows conviction 59:31 – 01:02:00 Advice for leaders in the AI era: GTM, pricing, and staying relevant Key Takeaways Alpha isn’t obvious upfront — finding it requires looking beyond familiar networks and consensus thinking. Diversity in decision-makers leads to better outcomes for both venture portfolios and founders. The founder journey is a zigzag, requiring resilience, adaptability, and constant reinvention. Technology as a moat is diminishing in the AI era; defensibility now comes from GTM, data, distribution, and product virality. Capital efficiency matters more than headline valuation — valuation isn’t money in pocket until exit. Restraint is harder than deploying capital, especially in hot markets driven by FOMO. Great founders are intellectually curious, humble, and maniacally focused, not know-it-alls. Founders must diligence VCs on how they behave during downturns—not just when things go well. Everything ultimately boils down to talent — hiring, upgrading, and making tough people decisions at the right time. In AI, speed and relevance matter — pricing, packaging, and continuous innovation are critical to long-term retention. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 3m
  2. Transforming Automotive Retail with Spyne AI - In Conversation with Sanjay Varnwal, Co-Founder & CEO

    11/24/2025

    Transforming Automotive Retail with Spyne AI - In Conversation with Sanjay Varnwal, Co-Founder & CEO

    In this episode, Peeyush Upadhyay, Managing Partner of Pekamiar, sits down with Sanjay Varnwal, Co-founder & CEO of Spyne, to explore how they’re transforming automotive retail — from shaky smartphone photos on crowded lots to studio-quality images, 3D spins, immersive video, and AI-led digital retail. Sanjay walks through Spyne’s hard pivot from a generic computer vision platform to a deep auto vertical, explaining why they consciously gave up 80% of their revenue to find true product–market fit, and how they scaled from India into the US and Europe, working with over 3,200 dealerships globally. They talk about: How dealers can shoot studio-like car visuals using just a smartphone Why visuals dramatically change lead volume and conversions Building proprietary computer vision & generative models for auto Pivoting from multi-vertical to auto-only (and surviving the revenue dip) Using conversational AI to capture leads 24/7 How to hire for new markets and build a US sales engine from India What founders should really focus on before raising a Series A If you’re building in AI, SaaS, or vertical software, or you’re a founder thinking about a painful but necessary pivot, this one is going to hit home. Chapters 00:00: Introduction to Spine AI and Automotive Retail Transformation 02:53: The Impact of Visual Presentation on Car Sales 06:07: The Capture and Cleanup Process in Automotive Imaging 08:57: The Shift to Specialization in the Automotive Industry 11:44: Revenue Growth and Metrics for Success 14:53: Customer Success Stories and Engagement Strategies 17:52: Adapting to Market Changes and Technology Trends 20:47: Expanding into a Broader Digital Retail Platform 23:49: Fundraising and Future Growth Plans 26:18: Unlocking Funding Success 29:07: Navigating Market Challenges 30:30: Scaling and International Expansion 35:59: Hiring for Growth 42:34: Cultural Cohesion and Leadership 44:55: Future of AI in Auto Retail Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    50 min
  3. The Building of Innovaccer's Healthcare Intelligence Cloud with Sandy Gupta, Co-Founder & COO

    06/03/2025

    The Building of Innovaccer's Healthcare Intelligence Cloud with Sandy Gupta, Co-Founder & COO

    In this episode, Peeyush Upadhyay interviews Sandy Gupta, Co-Founder and COO of Innovaccer, discussing the journey of building the largest intelligent healthcare cloud. They explore the importance of co-founder chemistry, the transition from research to healthcare, and the challenges faced in integrating healthcare data. Sandy shares insights on the decision-making process, the significance of trust among co-founders, and the evolution of Innovator's solutions in the healthcare sector. Sandy then discusses the transformative role of data in healthcare, highlighting the shift toward value-based care and the significance of social demographics in patient outcomes. They discuss the challenges faced by the healthcare industry, including rising costs and the need for automation through AI. The conversation also touches on the significance of building a strong company culture and navigating tough leadership decisions in a rapidly changing environment. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Innovaccer and Its Vision 02:57 - The Journey of Founders and Their Chemistry 05:58 - Transitioning from Research to Healthcare 08:52 - The Decision to Focus on Healthcare 12:01 - Building the Healthcare Intelligence Cloud 14:52 - Challenges and Solutions in Healthcare Data 17:57 - Scaling and Integrating Healthcare Solutions 26:38 - Data-Driven Healthcare Transformation 28:11 - Value-Based Care: A New Paradigm 30:49 - The Role of Social Demographics in Healthcare 32:57 - Preventative Care and Patient Insights 34:13 - Healthcare Industry Trends and Challenges 36:35 - AI and Automation in Healthcare 37:32 - Vision for the Future of Healthcare 40:09 - The Role of AI in Primary Care 42:46 - Building a Strong Company Culture 49:20 - Navigating Tough Decisions in Leadership Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    57 min
  4. 'Focus on Winning Together' in Healthcare AI

    03/25/2025

    'Focus on Winning Together' in Healthcare AI

    In this conversation, Ankit Jain, Co-Founder & CEO of Infinitus, discusses with Peeyush Upadhyay, Managing Partner at Pekamiar, the importance of vulnerability in leadership, the need to focus on people rather than titles in startups, and the journey of a serial entrepreneur transitioning from founder to investor. He emphasizes the significance of understanding customer needs and the potential of healthcare technology, particularly in automating communication processes. The discussion highlights the challenges and opportunities in scaling a business while maintaining a strong company culture. In this conversation, Ankit shares Infinitus' journey from identifying a significant problem in healthcare to building a product that addresses it. He, then, touches upon the evolution of their Technology, and the importance of a diverse founding team, highlighting how COVID-19 accelerated their mission. The conversation also delves into the company's culture, values, and the significance of defining success beyond mere numbers. Ankit delves into the intersection of AI and healthcare, emphasizing the importance of viewing technology as a tool to enhance human capabilities rather than a threat. The discussion then segues into the complexities of hiring in startups, the significance of cultural fit, and the role of people operations in maintaining a strong organizational culture. The dialogue also touches on the challenges of scaling a company while prioritizing people, the adoption of AI in operations, and the balance between work and family life. Finally, Ankit shares some powerful insights on leadership, vulnerability, and the human element in guiding teams towards success. Titles Embracing Vulnerability in Leadership The Importance of People in Business Rethinking Titles and Roles in Startups The Journey of a Serial Entrepreneur Transitioning from Founder to Investor Identifying Opportunities in Healthcare Chapters 00:00 Embracing Vulnerability in Leadership 06:02 Rethinking Titles and Roles in Startups 12:02 Transitioning from Founder to Investor 14:51 Identifying Opportunities in Healthcare 18:03 Building a Company with Purpose 20:34 Identifying Problems and Building Solutions 21:30 The Evolution of Infinitus' Product 22:58 Learning from Industry Pioneers 24:19 The Naming Journey of Infinitus 25:32 Building a Diverse Founding Team 27:34 The Impact of COVID-19 on Healthcare 29:53 Defining Company Culture and Values 33:13 The Importance of Winning Together 37:02 How to Win: Beyond Numbers 41:08 Building Relationships with Customers 42:33 AI as a Complement to Healthcare 43:30 Hiring Dynamics in Startups 44:31 Understanding Cost in Hiring 45:04 The Importance of Cultural Fit 46:01 Interviewing and Decision-Making 47:35 Encouraging Open Communication 48:04 Cultural Custodians in Organizations 49:31 People Operations and Culture 50:01 Attracting Top Talent to Infinitus 52:26 Scaling Challenges and People Focus 54:06 AI Adoption in Operations 55:08 Balancing Work and Family Life 58:32 Advice for Early-Stage Founders 01:00:01 The Human Element in Leadership Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 3m
  5. 03/11/2025

    Transforming Tech with Trmeric - In conversation with Siddharth Bohra, Founder & CEO.

    In this episode, Siddharth Bohra, Founder & CEO of Trmeric, talks about his journey starting out as a commerce graduate to leading multi-billion dollar businesses at Global Tech firms to founding Trmeric, emphasizing the importance of learnability and team building. He shares insights on navigating customer needs, the genesis of Trmeric, and the evolution of its product offerings. The discussion highlights the significance of AI in product development and the modular nature of Trmeric's services, as well as the role of AI co-pilots in enhancing user experience. Siddharth also elaborates on curating a network of service providers and the future directions for Trmeric. In this conversation, the founder discusses the journey of building Trmeric, focusing on product development, user experience, and the importance of customer feedback. He emphasizes the need for a roadmap for future growth, the challenges of fundraising, and the significance of creating a strong company culture. The discussion also touches on the attributes sought in team members, the learning curve in a startup environment, and advice for aspiring entrepreneurs. Key Topics The Journey of Learnability and Team Building Navigating Customer Needs and Product Vision The Genesis of Trmeric: From Idea to Reality Identifying Market Problems and Solutions Building the Prototype and Gathering Feedback The Evolution of Turmeric's Product Offering Leveraging AI in Product Development Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Learnability and Team Building 03:10 Navigating Customer Needs and Product Vision 05:45 The Genesis of Trmeric: From Idea to Reality 09:11 Identifying Market Problems and Solutions 12:02 Building the Prototype and Gathering Feedback 15:07 The Evolution of Trmeric's Product Offering 17:50 Leveraging AI in Product Development 21:00 Understanding the Modular Nature of Trmeric 23:57 The Role of AI Co-Pilots in Enhancing User Experience 26:58 Curating a Network of Service Providers 30:03 Future Directions and Innovations for Trmeric 38:28 Building a Roadmap for the Future 44:10 Focus on Product Experience and User Empowerment 48:20 Navigating Fundraising and Growth Strategies 51:32 Scaling Plans and Team Expansion 54:18 Key Attributes for Team Recruitment 57:46 Defining Company Culture and Values 01:00:27 Learning and Growth in a Startup Environment 01:06:20 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Staying Motivated 01:10:58 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 15m
  6. 01/14/2025

    Affinity – The AdTech Rocketship - $10M to $100M in 5Y - With Lavin Punjabi, Co-Founder & CEO

    In this conversation, Lavin Punjabi, Co-Founder & CEO of Affinity, a hyper-growth $100M ARR AdTech firm, talks with Peeyush Upadhyay, Managing Partner at Pekamiar, about his entrepreneurial journey and Affinity's growth story detailing its evolution from a domain parking company to a leader in performance advertising. He shares insights on the company's evolution over the years through multiple pivots and the importance of adaptability, risk-taking, and a growth-led mindset that helped build innovative solutions that led to significant revenue growth. The discussion emphasizes the value of data-driven decision-making and the necessity of maintaining profitability while pursuing new ventures. Lavin talks about Affinity's strategic response to tectonic shifts in the Advertising industry, and the company's conscious decision to invest in privacy-friendly, cookie-less, and AI-powered product strategy and development. He emphasizes the importance of building a strong team culture, the challenges of establishing a global brand, and the balance between work and family life. The discussion also touches on the significance of taking risks and being data-driven in entrepreneurship. Chapters 00:00 The Evolution of Affinity: A Journey of Growth 10:02 Navigating Challenges: The Importance of Adaptation 20:00 Innovative Solutions: Monetizing Mistakes 30:01 The Future of Affinity: Sustainable Growth and Profitability 30:56 Navigating the Cookie-less Future 34:46 Harnessing AI for Growth 40:36 Building a Strong Team and Culture 46:08 Mergers and Cultural Synergy 52:17 Establishing a Global Brand 55:13 Balancing Work and Family Life Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 1m
  7. 12/23/2024

    The Resurgence of Travel & Resilience of ITILITE with Mayank Kukreja: From $0 Revenue during COVID to 4X Growth in 2024

    In this episode of The Scale Up Flight, Peeyush Upadhyay interviews Mayank Kukreja, Co-Founder and CEO of ITILITE, discussing the challenges and triumphs of scaling a startup in the B2B Travel and Expense Management category. They explore Mayank’s journey from his Consulting days at McKinsey to entrepreneurship, the importance of identifying market needs, and the strategies for navigating the fundraising landscape. The conversation highlights the innovative solutions ITLITE offers to streamline business travel and expense processes, especially in a post-COVID world. In this conversation, Mayank shares insights on navigating VC relationships, building a founding team, and the evolution of a founder's role. He emphasizes the importance of choosing the right VC partners, the need for a T-profile approach in hiring, and the necessity of letting go and delegating responsibilities as the company grows. Peeyush also talks to Mayank about the adoption of AI in Travel & Expense SasS, balancing technology with human interaction. Finally, Mayank reflects on personal growth, work-life balance, and the importance of stepping back to reassess one's journey.     Chapters (Episode – 1)   00:00 - Introduction to The Scale Up Flight Podcast 01:49 - Understanding ITILITE's All-in-One Platform 04:58 - Mayank’s Journey from Consulting to Entrepreneurship 12:36 - Identifying the Problem and Market Fit 19:19 - Expanding into New Markets Post-COVID 27:32 - Building a Comprehensive Travel, Expense & Card Solution 30:34 - Navigating the Fundraising Landscape 33:29 - Navigating VC Relationships During Uncertain Times 38:19 - Building a Founding Team: The T-Profile Approach 41:29 - Evolving as a Founder: Letting Go and Delegating 49:12 - AI in Travel: Balancing Technology and Human Touch 57:55 - Scaling Leadership: Finding the Right Fit 01:01:05 - Personal Reflections: Balancing Work and Life Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 7m

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The Scaleup Flight, hosted by Peeyush Upadhyay, is a series of fireside chats encapsulating some of the most incredible, intriguing, and inspiring scaleup journeys of Founders, Investors, and Executives. Free of jargon, buzzwords, and PR stunts, these are real, authentic, relatable, and humane conversations through which we get a peek into the entrepreneurial pursuits of those who had the courage and conviction to take the long flight and the capability to make an impact on the big stage. Peeyush Upadhyay is the Co-Founder & Managing Partner at Pekamiar and serves as a trusted advisor to Tech startup Founders and C-suite and helps them accelerate their growth momentum by formulating and executing their Talent strategies. He partners with Early & Growth-stage Tech firms and helps them scale by helping build high-performance, diverse, and inclusive Leadership & GTM teams. Before founding Pekamiar, he worked at industry-leading global software & technology services firms like Automation Anywhere and Infosys in Sales & Strategic Partnerships roles. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.