18 episodes

A great song is most often the result not of instantaneous inspiration, but of a long obedience to the call of the song. This podcast explores artists' and producers' confrontations with the "Second Muse," the muse of effort rather than of inspiration, and takes a good hard look at how they’ve chosen to contend with her.

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    • 4.9 • 21 Ratings

A great song is most often the result not of instantaneous inspiration, but of a long obedience to the call of the song. This podcast explores artists' and producers' confrontations with the "Second Muse," the muse of effort rather than of inspiration, and takes a good hard look at how they’ve chosen to contend with her.

    S2 E12: The Lost Art of Listening (Epilogue)

    S2 E12: The Lost Art of Listening (Epilogue)

    In this last episode of Season Two, Drew Miller asks three questions of the Rabbit Room staff: How did you listen to music growing up and how have your listening habits changed? What is your advice for becoming a better listener? And who are some artists you're listening to right now?

    You'll hear the voices of Andrew Peterson, Pete Peterson, Jennifer Trafton, Chris Thiessen, Leslie Thompson, and Shigé Clark as they share about their personal relationship to music.

    This episode was inspired by a blog series at the Rabbit Room called The Lost Art of Listening, which examined how the streaming era has forever changed the way we listen, for better and for worse.

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    • 28 min
    S2 E11: Andrew Osenga interviews Drew Miller & Evan Redwine

    S2 E11: Andrew Osenga interviews Drew Miller & Evan Redwine

    In this second-to-last episode of Season 2, Andrew Osenga joins the podcast to interview Drew Miller and Evan Redwine about Drew’s song “Death of a Dream.” They speculate on what precisely the dreams are that died and how this song and its accompanying Desolation and Consolation EPs came about. Then they geek out about how Evan played Pro Tools plug-ins like instruments to achieve that spooky, decaying sort of sound that defines “Death of a Dream.”

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    • 44 min
    S2 E10: Taylor Leonhardt & Lucas Morton

    S2 E10: Taylor Leonhardt & Lucas Morton

    Drew Miller talks with Taylor Leonhardt and Lucas Morton about the making of Taylor's new song "Hold Still" from her upcoming album. They discuss Taylor’s quest to dig deeper into the songwriting process for her second album, songs as streams of water always seeking new spaces to fill, and the imperfect magic of recording an album live in the room with other musicians.

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    • 48 min
    S2 E9: Don Chaffer

    S2 E9: Don Chaffer

    Drew Miller talks with Don Chaffer about the song "Be Invisible" from his musical, The (Almost) Unforgettable Edwin Booth. They discuss the creativity to be found in the “fenced-in areas” of musical theater, the magic of seeing so many people bring your work to life on stage, and art as a way of practicing empathy.

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    • 47 min
    S2 E8: Ella Mine & Evan Redwine

    S2 E8: Ella Mine & Evan Redwine

    Drew Miller talks with Ella Mine and Evan Redwine about the making of Ella's song, "Sound & Fury." They discuss Ella’s process of discerning how to tell such a personal story in the form of a concept album, the integral role of Shakespeare in “Sound & Fury,” and the tricky process of faithfully adapting a live performance into a crystallized record.

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    • 38 min
    S2 E7: Jeremy Casella & Ben Shive

    S2 E7: Jeremy Casella & Ben Shive

    Drew Miller talks with Jeremy Casella and Ben Shive about the making of Jeremy's song, "Many Waters." They discuss the magic of mixing high language with common vernacular—in both music and lyrics—and God’s utter lack of pretense. They also geek out over those delicious chords in the second verse.

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    • 43 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
21 Ratings

21 Ratings

jannerW. ,

Love listening to this:)

I’m not even a songwriter, I’m just a regular writer, and I love this podcast. I love hearing my favorite songwriters talk about their craft and it is very encouraging just to hear about their different processes and experiences. It is helpful for all forms of art I think.
I only wish it came more often!

Thaddeus Chodd ,

Can a 3rd Muse be far behind?

In every single episode of this I find myself musing on all the explaterant knowledge revealed. Drew Miller literally becomes interviews incarnate and asks questions that receive literal answers, and audibly. The art of musics are so big. It requires 2 separate muses and this podcast reveals all of them. Can there be more? Hope on that.

Carolyn Broughton ,

Front row seat

I feel like whenever I push play on this show I get to step into a room with the people I most respect and want to learn from...I can hardly believe I get the privilege. These guys are real, honest, good at what they do, and most importantly for a podcast, they're able to explain and explore what they do with words an aspiring songwriter like me can understand and connect with. Solid gold... I come here every week for instruction, inspiration and encouragement before starting my own creative work. Keep making this show!!

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