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Thurl Bailey was a leader on the "Cardiac Pack" North Carolina State's Men's Basketball 1983 National Championship team. He also spent 13 years in the NBA as part of the Utah Jazz and Minnesota Timberwolves organizations. Thurl shares his remarkable journey this week as the Shadows Podcast presents Rebound: Season 3.

Check out Team of Destiny: How the NC State Wolfpack Won the 1983 NCAA Title...and How You and Your Team Can Choose to be Champions at https://www.amazon.com/Team-Destiny-Wolfpack-Choose-Champions-ebook/dp/B08R14L6BF.

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Matt Doherty won a national championship as a member of the 1982 North Carolina Men’s Basketball team. He also coached at Notre Dame, North Carolina, Florida Atlantic, and SMU. He was the 2001 Associated Press Men’s Coach of the Year. He’s now an executive coach, author of Rebound: From Pain to Passion - Leadership Lessons Learned, and host of the Rebound Podcast.

During this episode of the Shadows Podcast presents the Rebound series, Coach Doherty discusses:

- Growing up in East Meadow, New York

- Discovering his passion for playing basketball

- The recruiting process and how culture ultimately led him to Chapel Hill.

- There was a lot of uncertainty surrounding the 1981 National Championship game due to the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan. What was his mindset on the day of the biggest game of his career?

- His first impressions of a freshman named Mike Jordan?

- What were his takeaways from playing with James Worthy?

- Disappointment after missing a free throw with under a minute to go in the 1982 National Championship. What three things can you do when faced with adversity?

- What did Coach Smith say with his Tar Heels trailing Georgetown before Michael Jordan’s historic game-winning shot?

- Takeaways from his time playing for Coach Smith?

- How did the events of the 1984 NBA Draft push him away from basketball and into a downward spiral?

- Was diagnosed with symptoms of a chronic alcoholic, and his most significant accomplishment is being 35 years sober.

- His season as head coach at Notre Dame

- The summer of 2000 and landing the job at his alma mater, North Carolina.

- How did he feel watching Roy Williams and the players he recruited cutting down the nets after winning the 2005 National Championship?

- What would he do over again from his time in North Carolina?

- What makes him happy coaching now in 2023?

- Dealing with heavy depression and triggers after leaving North Carolina.

- What transpired and allowed himself forgiveness and closure with his meeting with Roy Williams?

- His book: Rebound: From Pain to Passion - Leadership Lessons Learned and The Rebound Podcast

- What does he want his legacy to be?

You can find out everything about Coach Doherty including his social media links, books, podcast, and coaching opportunities, at https://dohertycoaching.com/

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Joanne P. McCallie tips-off Season 3 of the Shadows Podcast: Rebound Series! Coach P has 32 years of coaching experience. She was the head coach at Maine, Michigan State, and Duke. Coach P earned National Coach of the Year honors in 2005. She’s the first Division 1 coach to win conference titles in four conferences. She’s a two-time gold medalist coach with Team USA Basketball and a Hall of Famer. Finally, she’s an author, public speaker, mental health trailblazer, advocate, and coach.

During this episode of the Shadows Podcast: Rebound Coach P discusses:

- Growing up in a military family. Her father was a Navy Pilot. Listen as she retells the love story of how her parents met.

- What were her aspirations as a child?

- The moment she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at the age of 30

- How did she balance coaching and her personal life?

- Mental health awareness

- What it meant as a military brat to coach Team USA Basketball

- The Growth of Women’s Basketball

- Her time coaching at Michigan State and Duke

- How COVID impacted her and the Duke program

- When did she decide to retire?

- Her books “Choice Not Chance: Rules for Building a Fierce Competitor” and “Secret Warrior: A Coach and Fighter, On and Off the Court.”

- Her public speaking and coaching

Website: https://coachp4life.org/

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/joanne-p-mccallie-68327b1a9

Twitter: CoachPDuke

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Stay tuned next week as former Notre Dame and North Carolina Men’s Basketball Coach, 1982 National Champion, Author, Speaker, Leadership Development & Team Building Coach Matt Doherty joins the Rebound Series!


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Iman Tucker is an entrepreneur and professional DJ. He currently serves as a DJ for the Indiana Pacers and Indiana Hoosiers. During Part II of this episode of the Shadows Podcast, Iman discusses


What’s worked for him to overcome anxiety?
How did he build a highly successful tech company?
What did he learn most about himself during the pandemic?
Starting a faith-based retail company, Believe Brand
Discovering his skills as a DJ
How persistence paid off and landed him the gig as DJ for the Indiana Pacers and Hoosiers
What does legacy really mean?

Stay tuned for Part II of this episode this Thursday, March 2.

Follow Iman at https://believebrandent.com.

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Iman Tucker is an entrepreneur and professional DJ. He currently serves as a DJ for the Indiana Pacers and Indiana Hoosiers. During Part I of this episode of the Shadows Podcast Iman discusses:


Growing up as a military brat in Fayetteville, North Carolina, he and his brother were abandoned by his parents and moved to Seymour, Indiana.
How was it growing up as a black man in a predominately white area?
Why did he feel the need for the affirmation of others?
At fourteen, Iman was diagnosed and battled Stage 4 Burkitt Lymphoma.
A crazy story about how he reconnected with his father through social media.
How did being diagnosed with cancer for a second time as well as being diagnosed with depression, change his outlook and perspective on life?

Stay tuned for Part II of this episode this Thursday, March 2.

Follow Iman at https://believebrandent.com/

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Sandra Gonzalez is a retired United States Marine Corps officer, life coach, and public speaker.

Part II starts with Sandra discussing her proudest moment and biggest regret in her military career. She talks about starting a business in Dubai, where she coached ambitious local Arab women. Hear her talk about the struggles of a brutal divorce after 15 years of marriage.

Sandra also opens up about finding her father unconscious and subsequently losing him two months later. How did she maintain her positive mindset through all of these struggles? Finally, she talks about her free training for high-caliber entrepreneurs at https://sandragonzalez.com/training.

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