The Shift 5 Podcast

Chase Thornock

You were told your body was broken. That your dreams would have to wait. That family life and freedom couldn’t exist in the same lifetime. You were wrong. The Shift 5 Podcast is where high-performing families break free from burnout, poor health, and over-scheduled chaos—and realign with the deeply connected life they were designed to live. Hosted by Chase Thornock, creator of The Shift 5 and cofounder of Tionatam, each episode features raw, powerful moments from inside the Tionatam dojo—where devoted parents and purpose-driven partners come to heal their bodies, reconnect with their families, and finally feel like themselves again. Through real-time coaching and embodied nervous system work, you’ll learn how to: Sense your body Honor what you want Surrender the how Expand into possibility And course-correct with ease This is spiritual nervous system work—for people who are done performing, done pretending, and ready to actually heal. 🎧 Start with Episodes 1 and 2 to hear the origin story and learn the Shift 5 framework. Then subscribe for weekly 10-minute shifts that just might change everything.

  1. JAN 26

    The Want Match Principle: How Real Desire Drives Lasting Change

    Last week, we started the Unmedicated Challenge by asking one simple—but powerful—question: Where are you right now? We focused on awareness, sensing the body, and resisting the urge to rush straight into fixing or forcing change. This week, we take the next step. In this episode, we introduce Step Two of the Shift and a core concept that explains why so many well-intended changes fail: In this episode, we explore:The difference between a want and a should (and why shoulds never work)The three levels of caring—and how to tell which one you’re inWhy pain can create awareness but still isn’t enough to drive lasting changeHow your body is always participating in your decisions (whether you acknowledge it or not)Real-life examples from relationships, health, work, caffeine use, sleep, movement, and motivationHow to identify the emotion you’re actually seeking—and recreate it in new contextsWhat it means to stop forcing change and start aligning with yourself This episode builds directly on our recent health episode (episode 43 and 44!) and shows why sustainable health (and growth in any area) can’t come from guilt, pressure, or discipline alone. The goal this week isn’t to force yourself to want something. It’s to discover what you already want, find the emotional drivers behind it, and let your body come along for the ride. 📄 Free WorksheetsWe reference several worksheets throughout this episode to help you do the Want Match work step-by-step. If you’d like free access to these worksheets, just reach out to us and we’ll send them your way—no cost, no catch. 🔗 Links & Resources:📩 Want the worksheets mentioned in these episodes? Email us → team@theshift5.com 🔥 Join the dojo and apply this work in real life → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznH 📸 Follow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5

    23 min
  2. JAN 22

    When Shift Hits the Fan: Processing the Health Challenge in Real Time

    This minisode is a direct follow-up to the Health Challenge episode. If you haven’t listened to Ep 43 “Unmedicated Freedom: Applying the Shift 5 to Health, Awareness, and Radical Self-Ownership” yet, start there first—this conversation is meant to deepen and clarify that work. In this minisode, Chase and Carly open the floor to real voices inside the community as people process the health challenge out loud—asking honest questions, naming concerns, and discovering just how much awareness changes everything. You’ll hear how caffeine, supplements, sleep, food, exercise, and medication sneak into the “I’m not on anything” category—and why this phase isn’t about fixing or quitting, but seeing clearly without judgment. 💡 What You’ll Hear:Why “I’m not on meds” often isn’t the full pictureHow caffeine, supplements, and sleep habits fit into the awareness phaseReal-time coaching around autoimmune medications and chronic illnessWhy the first step is never “get off”—it’s get honestThe danger of choosing too many health goals at onceWhy choosing one thing creates more change than trying to fix everythingHow awareness reduces guilt instead of increasing itParenting, picky kids, and food—without pressure or power strugglesWhy kids eat what you love, not what you lectureSleep as a foundational health lever (and why nothing changes yet)The four quadrants of knowledge—and why this week focuses on what you don’t know you don’t knowRunning, nutrition, caffeine, and the surprising role belief plays in physical performanceThe question that defines the next phase of the work:“What if you believed your body could do it?” 🔗 Links & Resources:📩 Want the worksheets mentioned in these episodes? Email us → team@theshift5.com 🔥 Join the dojo and apply this work in real life → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznH 📸 Follow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5

    11 min
  3. JAN 20

    Unmedicated Freedom: Applying The Shift 5 to Health, Awareness, and Radical Self-Ownership

    This is where the rubber meets the road. In this episode, Chase and Carly move from theory into application, kicking off the first real-world Shift 5 challenge: health. You’ll learn how to take the Shift 5 framework out of the classroom and into your daily life—through tangible challenges designed to increase awareness, reclaim agency, and create real freedom. This episode introduces the Unmedicated Challenge and three distinct health tracks, all rooted in compassion, curiosity, and radical self-ownership. This isn’t about judgment or perfection. It’s about learning where you are—so change becomes possible. 💡 What You’ll Hear:Why awareness always comes before changeThe difference between learning theory and living the workWhy health is the foundation for freedom in every other area of lifeThe Unmedicated Challenge and what it actually means (and doesn’t mean)How medications and supplements replace natural body functions—and why understanding that mattersWhy shame shuts down growth and curiosity opens it upHow breathwork and cold exposure become tools for clarity, insight, and revelationThe daily “Sense Your Body” practice and reflection promptsHow small health shifts create more time, freedom, and flexibility in lifeA powerful cold-shower realization that reshaped how Chase and Carly think about time, money, and lifestyle designWhy inverted living and radical self-ownership unlock long-term freedom 🧠 Important Note on Worksheets:Several worksheets and reflection prompts are referenced throughout this episode. If you’d like access to the worksheets mentioned, email us and we’ll help you get connected. 🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznH Follow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5 Questions, worksheet access, or support → team@theshift5.com

    21 min
  4. JAN 13

    The Shift Five: How I Healed My Body by Training My Nervous System

    In this foundational episode of Tionatam, Chase Thornock shares the story that changed everything—his health, his marriage, his finances, and ultimately the creation of The Shift Five. From the outside, life looked perfect: a successful career, a young family, financial stability, and physical strength. But internally, Chase’s body was shutting down. After being diagnosed with severe Crohn’s disease, becoming bedridden, dependent on IV nutrition, and nearly dying from sepsis, he was faced with a stark reality: No one was coming to save him. What followed was a deep, personal journey into understanding the autonomic nervous system, chronic stress, inflammation, trauma, and the body’s innate ability to heal—when the right conditions are created. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why chronic stress leads to chronic inflammation and autoimmune diseaseHow the autonomic nervous system governs healing, digestion, hormones, immunity, and mental healthThe difference between fight-or-flight and rest-and-digest, and why so many of us are stuck in survival modeHow trauma and subconscious “bookmarks” keep us reliving the past in our bodiesWhy your nervous system may sabotage change—even when you want itHow breathwork and cold exposure retrain safety, resilience, and homeostasisWhy cortisol isn’t the enemy—and how learning to release it properly changed everythingThe science behind why anxiety, depression, autoimmune disease, and relational conflict share a common root If you’ve ever felt stuck in anxiety, illness, burnout, scarcity, or reactivity—and wondered why willpower isn’t enough—this episode lays the foundation for a completely different way forward. Healing isn’t about forcing change. It’s about teaching your body that it’s safe to heal. 🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → team@theshift5.com

    32 min
  5. JAN 10

    When Shift Hits the Fan: Choosing Abundance When Everything Feels Scarce

    What do you do when you’ve given everything… and it feels like nothing is coming back? In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we step into a raw, honest coaching conversation about money, faith, consecration, and scarcity—what happens when abundance used to feel real, but now feels completely out of reach. Our guest shares the lived experience of: Receiving resources with a deep sense of stewardship and consecrationWatching those resources disappear in service, community, and responsibilityHitting a season where money feels tight, fear feels loud, and hope feels fragile And then asking the question so many of us quietly carry: “What if abundance was real before… but isn’t anymore?” Inside this episode, we explore: Why scarcity is often an invitation to contract—but also an invitation to expandThe difference between forcing gratitude and honoring fear without letting it leadHow abundance begins in the body, not the bank accountWhy “nothing has gone wrong” can be the most stabilizing thought in moments of collapseHow to identify your next right step when the future feels overwhelmingWhy small, grounded actions (cleaning, planting, tending) can be powerful acts of trustHow holding a feeling for just 17 seconds can begin shifting momentum 🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → team@theshift5.com

    13 min

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You were told your body was broken. That your dreams would have to wait. That family life and freedom couldn’t exist in the same lifetime. You were wrong. The Shift 5 Podcast is where high-performing families break free from burnout, poor health, and over-scheduled chaos—and realign with the deeply connected life they were designed to live. Hosted by Chase Thornock, creator of The Shift 5 and cofounder of Tionatam, each episode features raw, powerful moments from inside the Tionatam dojo—where devoted parents and purpose-driven partners come to heal their bodies, reconnect with their families, and finally feel like themselves again. Through real-time coaching and embodied nervous system work, you’ll learn how to: Sense your body Honor what you want Surrender the how Expand into possibility And course-correct with ease This is spiritual nervous system work—for people who are done performing, done pretending, and ready to actually heal. 🎧 Start with Episodes 1 and 2 to hear the origin story and learn the Shift 5 framework. Then subscribe for weekly 10-minute shifts that just might change everything.