The Side Woo

Thibault

The Side Woo is a podcast hosted by artist and writer Thibault that takes place at the intersection of mental health, spirituality, LGBTQ+ issues, and art-making. Every week, we interview artists, writers, creatives, and metaphysical practitioners to learn about strategies for navigating the uncertainty of a life in the arts. Episodes come out on Thursdays. Watch the video recordings on Spotify and our YouTube channel. Welcome to The Side Woo.

  1. 09/12/2025

    Live on Radio Tomada: A Tarot Reading from Doña Tules with Matthew Chase-Daniels

    This week's episode was recorded and broadcasted live from the Axel Contemporary Truck onto Radio Tomada in Santa Fe. Thibault talks with Mathew and gives a tarot reading through the lens of Doña Tules (Maria Gertrudis Barceló), a figure from New Mexican history, and a featured personality in the SITE Santa Fe International show. Doña Tules has advice for artists, and anyone trying to make their way in the world as an entrepreneur. The tarot cards are the official Grateful Dead tarot cards, second edition. About Radio Tomada⁠Radio Tomada 87.9⁠ is a mobile radio broadcast project organized by ⁠Autumn Chacon⁠ for ⁠SITE Santa Fe⁠'s International Biennial curated by Cecila Alemani. Matthew Chase-Daniel⁠Matthew Chase-Daniel ⁠ was born in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 1965 and lived in New York City in the 1960s. In the mid and late 1980s, Chase-Daniel studied at the Ojai Foundation in Ojai, California, at Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, New York (B.A.), and in Paris, France, where he studied cultural anthropology, photography, and ethnographic film production (Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes & Sorbonne). Since 1989, he has lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico making family, and roaming the landscape to make his art. His photography and sculpture have been exhibited across the U.S. and in Europe. Matthew's work: https://www.chasedaniel.com/About The Side WooThe Side Woo podcast was created by Thibault² to open a frank dialogue about the overlaps of mental health, queer stories, the metaphysical (woo), and creativity as a way to understand how one builds a sustainable creative life, and to shine a light on the ways artists overcome trauma and adversity. New episodes come out on Thursdays.About Thibault²Thibault² is a trans, interdisciplinary artist based in New Mexico. To learn more you can follow them on their blog, ⁠artdate.substack.com⁠

    22 min
  2. 09/04/2025

    Live on Radio Tomada in Santa Fe: Zina Al Shukri, Matthew Chase-Daniel and Jerry Wellman

    This week's episode was recorded and broadcasted live from the Axel Contemporary Truck onto Radio Tomada in Santa Fe. Thibault talks with Mathew and Jerry about woo, and talks with Zina about the sound bath she did at Electra Gallery, living in Arkansas, and the art world. About Radio Tomada Radio Tomada 87.9 is a mobile radio broadcast project organized by Autumn Chacon for SITE Santa Fe's International Biennial curated by Cecila Alemani. Zina Al Shukri Zina Al-Shukri was born in Baghdad, Iraq in 1978. She moved with her parents to the United States when she was 5 years of age. Al-Shukri received her BA from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, and attended the California College of the Arts, receiving her MFA in 2009. Zina Al-Shukri is an emerging artist whose exhibition history includes Jack Hanley Gallery, San Francisco, and Pulliam Deffenbach Gallery, Portland, Oregon. Zina's work Matthew Chase-Daniel Matthew Chase-Daniel  was born in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 1965 and lived in New York City in the 1960s. In the mid and late 1980s, Chase-Daniel studied at the Ojai Foundation in Ojai, California, at Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, New York (B.A.), and in Paris, France, where he studied cultural anthropology, photography, and ethnographic film production (Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes & Sorbonne). Since 1989, he has lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico, making family, and roaming the landscape to make his art. His photography and sculpture have been exhibited across the U.S. and in Europe. He is the co-founder, co-owner, and co-curator of Axle Contemporary, a mobile gallery of art, founded in 2010, a radio/podcast host at Coffee and Culture, curator of The Lena Wall, and a member of the Railyard Art Committee, all in Santa Fe. Jerry Wellman Jerry Wellman is a Santa Fe-based artist whose cultural work includes curatorial projects, performance, writing, video and studio production. Wellman earned an MFA from CalArts. Wellman’s paintings and drawings have been exhibited at the Brooklyn Museum of Art, Holly Solomon Gallery in New York City, Pierogi Gallery in Brooklyn, The Downey Museum, and The Orange County Center of Contemporary Art in California, The El Paso Museum of Art, The Revolving Museum in Boston, and The Paseo Project in Taos, NM. His drawings were selected for a traveling show sponsored by the Smithsonian. His work with Axle Contemporary has been exhibited at SITE Santa Fe, 516 Arts in Albuquerque, The. Navajo Nation Museum in Window Rock AZ, The Western Heritage Museum in Hobbs NM and the Roswell Art Center in Roswell NM. Awards of note include: Art Matters Foundation Grant, LINE Grant, Puffin Grant, and an NEA grant. Wellman has taught at the Pasadena College of Art and Design, CalArts, and New Mexico State University. He was formerly the head curator at Los Angeles Institute of Contemporary Art. He is the co-founder, co-director and co-curator of Axle Contemporary artspace About The Side Woo The Side Woo podcast was created to open a frank dialogue about the overlaps of mental health, queer stories, the metaphysical (woo), and creativity as a way to understand how one builds a sustainable creative life, and to shine a light on the ways artists overcome trauma and adversity. New episodes come out on Thursdays.About ThibaultThibault² is a trans, interdisciplinary artist based in New Mexico. To learn more you can follow them on their blog, artdate.substack.com

    42 min
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23 Ratings

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The Side Woo is a podcast hosted by artist and writer Thibault that takes place at the intersection of mental health, spirituality, LGBTQ+ issues, and art-making. Every week, we interview artists, writers, creatives, and metaphysical practitioners to learn about strategies for navigating the uncertainty of a life in the arts. Episodes come out on Thursdays. Watch the video recordings on Spotify and our YouTube channel. Welcome to The Side Woo.