The Space Between Two Lines

Alex Saunders
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Welcome to The Space Between Two Lines, hosted by Alex Saunders. This is a podcast dedicated to honest conversations about the realities of fertility loss and the journey to parenthood. This is a space for real and raw discussions with everyday people, sharing stories that often go unheard, providing connection, community, and validation.

  1. Kylie’s Journey Through IVF Failure, Endometriosis & Ectopic Pregnancy

    3D AGO

    Kylie’s Journey Through IVF Failure, Endometriosis & Ectopic Pregnancy

    In this poignant episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex welcomes Kylie, a 39-year-old from Cairns, Queensland, who bravely shares her intensive three-year journey through the world of assisted reproduction. Following a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy in her 20s, Kylie entered the fertility "trenches," navigating changing diagnoses—from misinformed reports on her remaining fallopian tube to a later discovery of Stage 2 endometriosis. Now preparing for her fifth IVF cycle, Kylie offers a raw look at the financial, physical, and emotional toll of treatment, including the devastating experience of a "no transfer" round and the profound lifestyle changes she and her husband, Michael, have made to pursue their dream of parenthood. This conversation is a testament to the strength required to keep going when the "white picket fence" life feels just out of reach.   Follow Kylie's ongoing journey and find community support on her TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylzivf?_r=1&_t=ZS-956wbBDrMZx   We invite you to listen to this incredibly honest account of hope and persistence. If Kylie’s story resonates with you, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines to ensure you never miss an episode of these vital, life-changing conversations. Your support helps us continue sharing stories that make every listener feel seen and understood. If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: ⁠https://www.twolines.space/register

    54 min
  2. Sarah’s Secondary Infertility Journey: IVF, Pregnancy Loss & Trying Again

    MAR 26

    Sarah’s Secondary Infertility Journey: IVF, Pregnancy Loss & Trying Again

    In this raw and deeply human episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex speaks with Sarah, a 31-year-old mother from Brisbane, Queensland, who shares her intense three-year journey through secondary infertility, five pregnancy losses, and the grueling realities of IVF. Sarah’s story highlights the delicate balance between the gratitude she feels for her daughter, Violet, and the profound grief of navigating a path to grow her family that has been marked by medical surprises and emotional hurdles. This conversation is an essential resource for anyone seeking to understand the importance of medical self-advocacy and the advanced fertility treatments available for complex cases.   We invite you to listen to this incredibly honest account of resilience and hope. If Sarah’s journey resonates with you, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines to join our community of real stories and shared understanding. Your support helps ensure that no one has to walk the space between those two lines alone.    If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: https://www.twolines.space/register

    1h 6m
  3. The Reality of Long-Term IVF: Miranda’s Story

    MAR 19

    The Reality of Long-Term IVF: Miranda’s Story

    In this deeply moving episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Miranda, a mother based in the Brisbane and Gold Coast area, to discuss her extraordinary 3.5-year fertility journey. After facing 11 rounds of IVF, multiple losses, and complex medical diagnoses, Miranda shares the raw reality of what it takes to persist through the "trenches" of infertility. This conversation is an essential guide for anyone navigating the medical system, highlighting the importance of second opinions, medical self-advocacy, and the emotional resilience required to reach the "light at the end of the tunnel"We invite you to listen to this incredibly honest account of one woman's path to motherhood. If you find Miranda’s story helpful or inspiring, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines to ensure you never miss an episode of these vital conversations. Every story matters, and we are grateful to have you as part of our community. For those seeking expert guidance on medication safety while breastfeeding, Miranda recommends the public services of Dr. Rodney White in Melbourne: (03 5150 3455 or 03 5150 3300) (⁠https://brhs.com.au/health-services/breastfeeding/⁠) Please note these specific contact details are from your external information and not the provided sources, so you may wish to verify them independently. If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: ⁠https://www.twolines.space/register

    45 min
  4. Tiarna: Surviving Cancer, Early Menopause & Her Ongoing IVF Journey 

    MAR 12

    Tiarna: Surviving Cancer, Early Menopause & Her Ongoing IVF Journey 

    In this powerful episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Tiarna, a 34-year-old from Wollongong, New South Wales, who shares her remarkable story of navigating life after a Stage 2 bowel cancer diagnosis at age 29. Tiarna opens up about the unexpected long-term costs of survival, including facing early menopause and the complex "numbers game" of IVF. This conversation is a deep dive into the importance of medical self-advocacy, the emotional toll of fertility struggles, and finding hope in the space between surviving a life-threatening illness and dreaming of what comes next. Join us for this raw and essential conversation on resilience. If Tiarna’s story resonates with you, please subscribe to the podcast and follow us for more honest stories about the journey to parenthood. Your support helps ensure that every story, like Tiarna's, is heard and understood. If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: https://www.twolines.space/register

    1h 17m
  5. Katie: Holding Joy & Grief- Secondary Male Factor Infertility, IVF & Pregnancy After Loss

    MAR 5

    Katie: Holding Joy & Grief- Secondary Male Factor Infertility, IVF & Pregnancy After Loss

    In today's episode, Alex sits down with Katie to explore the often-quiet reality of secondary infertility. After a straightforward journey conceiving her first child naturally, Katie shares the unexpected challenges of trying for her second and third babies. From the decision to transition to IVF to the heartbreak of a missed miscarriage at 13 weeks, Katie’s story is a testament to resilience, the complexity of grief alongside gratitude, and the importance of breaking the silence surrounding reproductive health.    Are you navigating your own journey through fertility or pregnancy loss? Join our community for more honest conversations that make you feel seen and understood. Listen to Katie’s full story now and follow The Space Between Two Lines to ensure you never miss an episode. Your story matters, and so does your journey.   If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: https://www.twolines.space/register

    31 min
  6. Freezing Time: Navigating Endometriosis and Egg Freezing in your early 30’s

    FEB 27

    Freezing Time: Navigating Endometriosis and Egg Freezing in your early 30’s

    In this episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with a 31-year-old guest who shares her deeply personal journey with Stage 4 endometriosis and her proactive decision to undergo egg freezing. After years of navigating misdiagnoses and "niche" symptoms like urinary frequency and bowel issues, the guest discusses the emotional and physical toll of chronic illness and the unexpected medical complications she faced during fertility preservation. This conversation explores the realities of the medical system, the importance of finding a trusted care team, and the complex intersection of career, mental health, and reproductive choices. If you enjoyed today's episode, don't forget to subscribe or follow the podcast on your favorite platform! You can also leave a review or register on our website to share your own story. Every journey matters, and so does yours. If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: ⁠https://www.twolines.space/register

    48 min
  7. His Story Too: Nick Infertility Through a Male Lens

    FEB 19

    His Story Too: Nick Infertility Through a Male Lens

    In this episode of The Space Between Two Lines, host Rosie sits down for a special conversation with Alex's husband, Nick, to explore the side of fertility that often remains in the shadows: the male perspective. While much of the focus during fertility treatments is on the physical and emotional load carried by women, partners navigate their own unique set of challenges, uncertainties, and emotional highs and lows. Nick shares an intimate look at their road to parenthood, from the surprise natural conception of their first son, Ollie, to the more clinical and demanding path of secondary infertility, ovulation induction, and IVF. This episode is a must-listen for couples navigating fertility treatments, offering a raw and honest look at how these experiences can impact a relationship and how partners can better support one another through the "thick of it".

    19 min
  8. Steph: When Growing a Family Isn’t Linear, Reoccurring Pregnancy Loss

    FEB 12

    Steph: When Growing a Family Isn’t Linear, Reoccurring Pregnancy Loss

    In this deeply moving episode, we sit down with Steph, a pediatric Occupational Therapist and mother of three, who bravely shares her intimate journey through recurrent pregnancy loss and secondary infertility. While her first pregnancy was straightforward, the path to expanding her family was marked by heartbreak, resilience, and the quiet strength required to navigate grief while parenting.   This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the complexities of fertility, the reality of miscarriage, and the enduring hope that carries families through their darkest moments.  If this story resonated with you, please consider listening to the full episode to hear Steph’s story in her own words. Don't forget to follow the podcast for more honest conversations on the realities of parenthood and pregnancy.

    27 min
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Welcome to The Space Between Two Lines, hosted by Alex Saunders. This is a podcast dedicated to honest conversations about the realities of fertility loss and the journey to parenthood. This is a space for real and raw discussions with everyday people, sharing stories that often go unheard, providing connection, community, and validation.

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