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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters source faster, connect smarter, and hire better.

  1. 06/02/2025

    AI Is Eating Recruiting - Here’s What’s Next, or is it? With Johnny Sanchez Head of Talent Operations at Rivian

    AI isn’t just a buzzword anymore—it’s the engine behind recruiting’s next evolution. From rapid tech shifts to strange encounters with chatbots, this episode digs into what happens when innovation meets real-world hiring. Spoiler: futurism isn’t science, it’s mostly vibes. In this episode, we speak with Johnny Sanchez, Head of Talent Operations at Rivian about AI, recruiting, innovation, technology, design thinking, and the future of work. We dive into conference takeaways, personal experiences with AI, and the trends shifting the talent acquisition space. If you're wondering how AI is actually changing recruiting, this is your real-world debrief. This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Johnny Sanchez LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanchezjohnny/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    13 min

  2. 06/02/2025

    No Résumé, No Problem: Skill-Based Hiring is Here with Nir Dovrat of Canditech

    Recruiting's broken and everyone knows it. From resume roulette to HR tech that overpromises and underdelivers, the old ways are failing fast. Enter Canditech, flipping the hiring script with skill-based assessments and AI that doesn’t try to play recruiter. In this episode we sit down with Nir, co-founder of Canditech, to talk about what real innovation in hiring looks like. We get into the nuts and bolts of skill-first hiring, the overhyped role of AI, and why job simulations might be your next best hire. Plus: conference schmoozing, real talk on hiring fail points, and why most résumés should be tossed in the trash. This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Nir Dovrat LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nir-dovrat-2217a750/ Website: https://www.canditech.io/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    15 min

  3. 06/02/2025

    Stop Selling, Start Listening: What Vendors Get Wrong at Events

    Ever wonder what happens when a consultant jumps into product strategy? Spoiler: it’s not all roadmaps and wireframes. We’re talking about the human side of tech—how real conversations at conferences, a killer candidate experience, and vendor humility can shape the future of recruitment. This one’s about what actually moves the needle. In this episode we speak with Elaine Orler chief Strategy and Product Officer at Match2 to dig into her journey from consulting to product strategy, why vendor engagement matters more than ever, and how the smartest recruiters use conferences to learn—not just pitch. We break down the candidate experience, mentorship, and how to build a recruitment career rooted in real relationships. Timestamps: 00:00 — Who is Elaine Orler and why is she special? 03:00 — Consulting to Product Strategy 05:57 — Vendor Engagement at Conferences 09:01 — Learning and Networking at Events 11:59 — Candidate Experience and Industry Insights 14:58 — Reflections on Relationships and Learning This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Elaine Orler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaineorler/ Website: https://match2.jobs/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    21 min

  4. 06/02/2025

    Why Gen Z Doesn’t Care About Your Definition of “Professional”

    What do Jewish weddings, Gen Z, and professionalism have in common? More than you'd think. This episode blends history, humor, and real-world workplace insight into a conversation that punches through clichés and gets to the heart of how we connect across generations. In this episode, we lay back with Danielle Farage, future of work influencer and speaker to unpack the layered history of Jewish persecution, the cultural power of humor, and how that all ties into the challenges facing today’s job seekers. We talk about weddings (yes, the dancing too), employer branding, and why redefining professionalism might be the smartest move your company hasn’t made yet. Key Takeaways: ➡ Jewish populations have drastically declined in several global regions—history matters. ➡ Humor remains a key survival mechanism in Jewish communities, especially post-trauma. ➡ Generational gaps in communication style are disrupting traditional workplace norms. ➡ Young professionals entering the workforce post-COVID face higher stress and fewer resources. ➡ “Professionalism” is a moving target—and often a biased one. ➡ Weddings tell you everything about culture—and what people value. ➡ Employer branding is no longer optional—it’s a magnet or a repellent. ➡ Redefining old-school terms like professionalism can foster inclusion. ➡ Skilled trades are making a major comeback—Gen Z is watching. ➡ Storytelling isn’t fluff—it’s your recruitment strategy in disguise. Timestamps: 00:00 – Historical Context of Jewish Persecution 02:58 – The Role of Humor in Jewish Culture 05:52 – Intergenerational Communication and Work Dynamics 08:48 – Navigating the Job Market Post-Pandemic 12:08 – Redefining Professionalism for a New Generation 14:55 – Cultural Perspectives on Weddings and Celebrations 17:58 – The Future of Work and Employer Branding IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Danielle Farage LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    18 min

  5. 06/02/2025

    You’re Either Learning or You’re Losing

    Curiosity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your edge in a world moving at breakneck speed. In this conversation, we crack open what it really means to keep learning, take feedback seriously, and adapt to the tectonic shifts in recruitment, tech, and workforce dynamics. Spoiler alert: Gen Z’s not waiting for permission. In this episode speak with Edie Goldberg about curiosity, feedback, AI in recruitment, women in tech, and shifting workforce dynamics. We explore how learning keeps you relevant, how technology reshapes hiring, and why understanding context matters more than ever. If you’re navigating the future of work, this is your map. Key Takeaways: ➡ Curiosity is your professional survival kit in a fast-moving world ➡ Feedback isn't optional—it’s the fuel for leveling up ➡ New tech isn’t coming, it’s here—adapt or fall behind ➡ Gen Z isn’t chasing jobs—they’re building their own paths ➡ Women in tech are still massively underrepresented ➡ Interview norms have shifted—respect and clarity matter ➡ AI isn’t replacing recruiters, it’s supercharging them ➡ Communication without context? That’s where things break ➡ Remote culture demands new rules of engagement ➡ Continuous learning isn’t a trend—it’s a mindset ➡ Supporting women isn’t a campaign—it’s a commitment ➡ Attention is fractured—how you engage matters more than ever Timestamps: 00:00 – The Importance of Curiosity and Learning 02:53 – Feedback: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly 06:00 – Adapting to Change: Technology and Recruitment 09:02 – The Role of AI in Recruitment 11:56 – Changing Workforce Dynamics: Attracting Talent 14:56 – Empowering Women in HR Tech 17:53 – Navigating Interviews: Expectations and Etiquette 21:01 – The Impact of Technology on Attention 23:58 – Concluding Thoughts: Learning from Each Other IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Edie Goldberg LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/ Website: https://www.elgoldberg.com/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    32 min

  6. 06/02/2025

    You’re Already in the Revolution—Recruitment, AI, and the Fight for Relevance

    Recruitment is evolving fast—and if you’re not adapting, you’re getting left behind. From AI disruption to cultural shifts, this episode digs deep into how tech is reshaping the hiring game, why your story matters more than ever, and the unexpected cities making big waves in talent. In this episode we speak with industry playboy Aaron Daniels and dive into the recruitment trenches, swap stories from the field, and explore how culture, music, and perspective fuel personal and professional growth. There’s real talk, some laughs, and a sharp look at the future of hiring through the lens of AI, networking, and narrative. Key Takeaways: ➡ Recruitment is getting redefined by technology—adapt or fall behind ➡ AI is more than a buzzword—it’s the spark of the next industrial revolution ➡ Most recruiters sit somewhere between panic and progress when it comes to tech ➡ If you don’t tell your story, someone else will (and they’ll probably get it wrong) ➡ San Antonio is a sleeper city with serious community and culture ➡ Music and culture aren’t distractions—they’re fuel for better work ➡ Perspective isn’t soft—it’s your edge in personal and professional growth ➡ Conferences aren’t just about panels—they’re about who you meet at the bar ➡ Knowing local laws and culture isn’t optional—it’s how you stay relevant ➡ Continuous learning isn’t a luxury—it’s survival Timestamps: 00:00 – Who is Aaron Daniels and why is he so loved? 06:58 – Recruitment Insights and Technology Trends 11:56 – Cultural Reflections and Personal Perspectives 14:54 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Aaron Daniels LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arrondaniels/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    18 min

  7. 06/02/2025

    Navigating Talent Acquisition in a Changing Landscape with Lisa Kraska, VP Global Talent Acquisition at Footlocker

    Foot Locker’s newest recruiting leader isn’t playing defense—she’s rewriting the playbook. In this episode, Lisa Kraska shares her journey from healthcare into retail talent acquisition, unpacking what it really takes to build relationships, adapt to tech, and keep your recruiting game sharp. No fluff—just smart insight from someone who’s living it. We talk about Foot Locker, recruitment, talent acquisition strategies, company culture, hiring technology, and personal stories that shape HR transformation. William Tincup and Ryan Leary sit down with Lisa Kraska to unpack what it means to stay relevant in the talent game—and why relationships still win. Key Takeaways ➡ Lisa Kraska is now leading global talent acquisition at Foot Locker ➡ Moving from healthcare to retail means a brand-new recruiting playbook ➡ Relationships still beat résumés—every time ➡ Technology is rewriting the rules of TA faster than most can keep up ➡ Company culture isn’t a perk—it’s the glue that keeps talent around ➡ Listening to hiring managers is a lost art—and it shows ➡ The Recruiting Innovation Summit reminded us why recruiters need to evolve ➡ Personal storytelling can cut through the noise and attract top talent ➡ Conferences aren’t just for swag—they’re for strategic connections ➡ Adaptability and continuous learning are the new must-haves in recruiting Timestamps 00:00 — Introduction and Personal Insights 03:10 — Transitioning to Foot Locker: Challenges and Opportunities 07:51 — Recruitment Strategies and Company Culture 11:31 — Staying Relevant in Talent Acquisition 18:06 — Reflections on the Recruiting Innovation Summit IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Lisa Kraska LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakraska/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    21 min

  8. 06/02/2025

    The Soundtrack of Hiring: Walkout Music Meets Recruitment Tech

    What’s your walkout song? If that question stumps you, you’re missing more than just a vibe check. In this convo, we get loud with Mike Sunderland from Hudson RPO as he rips into the unspoken power of walkout music, the overlooked layers of RPO, and how AI is quietly flipping recruiting on its head. In this episode, we hit everything from the psychology of music in interviews to how AI tools are empowering candidates faster than employers can react. Mike breaks down why strategy—not execution—is the future battlefield of recruitment, and why staying nosy might be the smartest skill you’ve got. Key Takeaways: Walkout music isn’t just fun—it signals candidate confidence, personality, and energy. Music bias is real, and it could be quietly shaping your hiring decisions. RPO is the misunderstood middle child between staffing and corporate recruiting. High RPO visibility = high expectations. Clients want ROI receipts. AI isn’t coming for recruiters—it’s already here and candidates are using it first. Recruiters must blend strategy with tech or get left behind. Execution is becoming table stakes. Strategy is where the war will be won. Continuous learning isn’t optional—relevance is a moving target. Industry events aren’t just schmooze fests—they’re insight goldmines. Curiosity isn’t a soft skill—it’s your recruiting superpower. Timestamps: 00:00 – The Power of Walkout Music 03:13 – Understanding Recruitment Process Outsourcing (RPO) 06:12 – The Role of AI in Recruitment 11:57 – Future of Recruiting: Strategy vs. Execution 20:13 – Learning and Growth in Recruitment IMAGE This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent. Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/ Connect with the guest: Mike Sunderland LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelsunderland1 Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

    21 min
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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters source faster, connect smarter, and hire better.

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