The Tech Trek

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The Tech Trek is a podcast about how modern technology companies are actually built, with a focus on AI, data, platform, and engineering leadership. Host Amir Bormand talks with founders, CTOs, and technical operators about building products, scaling teams, and making the decisions that shape fast-growing companies.

  1. How AI Coding Agents Are Changing Software Engineering

    1D AGO

    How AI Coding Agents Are Changing Software Engineering

    What happens when software engineers stop thinking like coders and start thinking like orchestrators? In this episode, Amir sits down with Scott Gale, CTO and Founder of Fluency, to unpack one of the biggest shifts happening in engineering right now: the move from writing code by hand to directing AI agents with context, judgment, and intent. Scott shares how his team is already using coding agents in production, what that means for hiring and team design, and why the engineers who adapt fastest will be the ones who gain leverage, not lose relevance. This conversation gets into the real change beneath the AI hype. Not just better tools, but a different shape of engineering work. Less manual syntax, more planning, auditing, collaboration, and system level thinking. Key Takeaways • The value of an engineer is shifting away from typing code and toward directing intent clearly • Teams that give AI better context can get dramatically better output from coding agents • Engineers do not need to become people managers, but they do need to learn how to manage agent driven work • Hiring is starting to favor people who can collaborate, learn the product, and work effectively with AI • Faster software delivery does not mean less to build, it often means companies can finally tackle more of the backlog Timestamped Highlights 00:01 Scott Gale, CTO and Founder of Fluency, joins Amir to break down the shift from builder to orchestrator in modern engineering 02:36 How Fluency introduced coding agents with a three part approach: safe experimentation, mindset shift, and stronger context 04:35 Is this just the next step in software engineering, or does AI fundamentally change the role? 08:16 Why some engineers resist AI tools, and what helps people move from skepticism to real adoption 11:26 How technical interviews are changing as AI becomes part of everyday engineering work 16:59 Scott on whether companies will actually need fewer engineers, and why the demand for meaningful work is not going away 21:09 The practical lesson teams miss: better structured systems and better context make coding agents far more effective One line worth remembering “It’s not about losing your craft. It’s about managing a workforce of junior agents.” Practical edge Scott shares a useful operating principle for teams already experimenting with AI in engineering: if you want better output, do not start with prompts alone. Start with structure. The more clearly a system is organized, and the more context an agent can access, the more useful and reliable the result becomes. That applies to hiring too. Technical skill still matters, but the engineers who stand out now are the ones who can collaborate across product and engineering, understand the business context, and make good decisions with AI in the loop. Call to Action If you are thinking through what AI means for engineering careers, team design, or product velocity, follow the show and share this episode with someone building in this new environment. For more conversations with founders and operators shaping where tech is headed, connect with Amir on LinkedIn.

    23 min
  2. How AI Coding Agents Are Changing Software Engineering

    1D AGO

    How AI Coding Agents Are Changing Software Engineering

    What happens when software engineers stop thinking like coders and start thinking like orchestrators? In this episode, Amir sits down with Scott Gale, CTO and Founder of Fluency, to unpack one of the biggest shifts happening in engineering right now: the move from writing code by hand to directing AI agents with context, judgment, and intent. Scott shares how his team is already using coding agents in production, what that means for hiring and team design, and why the engineers who adapt fastest will be the ones who gain leverage, not lose relevance. This conversation gets into the real change beneath the AI hype. Not just better tools, but a different shape of engineering work. Less manual syntax, more planning, auditing, collaboration, and system level thinking. Key Takeaways • The value of an engineer is shifting away from typing code and toward directing intent clearly • Teams that give AI better context can get dramatically better output from coding agents • Engineers do not need to become people managers, but they do need to learn how to manage agent driven work • Hiring is starting to favor people who can collaborate, learn the product, and work effectively with AI • Faster software delivery does not mean less to build, it often means companies can finally tackle more of the backlog Timestamped Highlights 00:01 Scott Gale, CTO and Founder of Fluency, joins Amir to break down the shift from builder to orchestrator in modern engineering 02:36 How Fluency introduced coding agents with a three part approach: safe experimentation, mindset shift, and stronger context 04:35 Is this just the next step in software engineering, or does AI fundamentally change the role? 08:16 Why some engineers resist AI tools, and what helps people move from skepticism to real adoption 11:26 How technical interviews are changing as AI becomes part of everyday engineering work 16:59 Scott on whether companies will actually need fewer engineers, and why the demand for meaningful work is not going away 21:09 The practical lesson teams miss: better structured systems and better context make coding agents far more effective One line worth remembering “It’s not about losing your craft. It’s about managing a workforce of junior agents.” Practical edge Scott shares a useful operating principle for teams already experimenting with AI in engineering: if you want better output, do not start with prompts alone. Start with structure. The more clearly a system is organized, and the more context an agent can access, the more useful and reliable the result becomes. That applies to hiring too. Technical skill still matters, but the engineers who stand out now are the ones who can collaborate across product and engineering, understand the business context, and make good decisions with AI in the loop. Call to Action If you are thinking through what AI means for engineering careers, team design, or product velocity, follow the show and share this episode with someone building in this new environment. For more conversations with founders and operators shaping where tech is headed, connect with Amir on LinkedIn.

    23 min
  3. How AI Will Change Procurement and Knowledge Work

    MAR 26

    How AI Will Change Procurement and Knowledge Work

    Spencer Penn, Co founder and CEO of LightSource, joins The Tech Trek for a sharp conversation on AI native procurement, agentic workflows, and what actually happens to knowledge work as automation gets better. This episode is worth your time because it moves past lazy takes about AI replacing jobs and gets into something more useful, how work changes, where human value holds, and why procurement may be more strategic than most companies treat it. This conversation starts with procurement, but it quickly expands into a bigger discussion about role design, change management, and the pace of AI adoption inside real companies. Spencer breaks down why some jobs get redesigned while others disappear, how AI can elevate overlooked functions, and what people should do right now if their company is behind. In this episode Why procurement is a strong fit for AI, especially where teams are buried in tedious process workThe difference between job automation and job eliminationSpencer’s idea of role plasticity, and why it matters more than most AI debatesWhy procurement teams may become more valuable, not less, as AI improvesPractical ways professionals can start using AI before their company rolls out a formal strategyTimestamped highlights 00:37 What LightSource does and why direct material sourcing is a high stakes AI use case01:51 Why procurement teams spend too much time on transactional work06:47 Which jobs get enhanced by AI, which ones get eliminated, and Spencer’s framework for role plasticity13:44 What the next few years could look like for procurement professionals26:18 Where to start if your company has not adopted an AI native workflow yet30:07 How to learn more about LightSource and connect with Spencer“AI will not replace your job. Someone who knows how to use AI will.” A practical thread running through this episode is simple. Start using the tools now. Use foundation models for secondary work, reporting, summaries, and internal communication. Build familiarity before the workflow shift gets forced on you. If you are interested in AI, procurement, operations, supply chain, or the future of knowledge work, follow The Tech Trek for more conversations like this.

    31 min
  4. How AI Is Reshaping the CISO Role and Modern Security Teams

    MAR 24

    How AI Is Reshaping the CISO Role and Modern Security Teams

    Michael Fanning, CISO at Splunk, joins The Tech Trek for a grounded conversation on how the security leader role is changing in the AI era. This episode gets into the real tension facing modern CISOs, balancing risk without slowing the business down, hiring for technical depth over narrow credentials, and defining success in a field where perfection is not a realistic metric. This is a practical conversation for security leaders, engineering leaders, founders, and operators trying to make sense of AI adoption inside the enterprise. Mike breaks down why security has to move from fear based messaging to business enablement, why many teams may be overlooking strong security talent hiding in adjacent technical roles, and where AI can either reduce burnout or make it worse. In this episode Why the CISO role is becoming more engineering driven and more tightly tied to business outcomes Where AI creates real leverage for security teams, and where it introduces new operational risk Why the security talent gap may be as much a hiring mindset problem as a supply problem What actually causes burnout in security teams, beyond the usual talking points How to think about success in security when zero incidents is not a serious metric Highlights 1:44, The CISO role is shifting from pure protection to business enablement 7:11, AI creates leverage for defenders, but it is also accelerating the attacker playbook 9:31, The biggest AI security risks, from developer copilots to agent driven decision making 14:15, Why security teams need room to experiment with AI or risk falling behind 16:58, Only 1 percent of CISOs surveyed prioritized technology to close the skills gap 22:16, AI can reduce burnout, but only if it cuts noise instead of creating more of it Security is about assessing risk and finding a way to say yes in a way that is responsible. A practical idea worth taking back to your teamLook beyond candidates with formal security titles. Mike makes the case that strong engineers, SREs, and cloud practitioners often already understand the systems, access models, and infrastructure realities that matter most. Security can be taught on top of that foundation. Link to report: https://www.splunk.com/en_us/form/ciso-report.html Follow The Tech Trek for more conversations with leaders shaping how technology actually gets built, secured, and scaled.

    28 min
  5. How Shadow AI Is Changing Cybersecurity and Insider Risk

    MAR 20

    How Shadow AI Is Changing Cybersecurity and Insider Risk

    Raj Koo, CTO at DTEX, joins The Tech Trek for a sharp conversation on insider risk, shadow AI, and why security teams need a more modern way to think about intent. This episode is worth your time if you are trying to understand how AI is changing cyber risk, why non malicious behavior can still create major exposure, and what it takes to protect the business without slowing down innovation. Raj explains why the old approach of blocking known bad behavior is no longer enough. As employees bring personal AI tools into the workplace, security teams are dealing with a new reality, one where productivity gains, agentic workflows, and data exposure are all colliding at once. In this episode Why DTEX focuses on inferring intent, not just catching exfiltration Why shadow AI is different from shadow IT, and harder to control How non malicious employee behavior can become the biggest insider risk category Why agentic AI raises the stakes for visibility and governance How mature insider risk programs are shrinking response times even as costs rise Timestamped highlights 00:00 Raj Koo on inferring intent in cybersecurity 01:59 Why early warning signals matter more than the exfiltration point 04:38 The rising cost of insider risk 06:25 How shadow AI became a major non malicious risk 08:13 Why shadow AI is more complex than shadow IT 17:53 Detection times are improving, but the cost problem is getting worse Standout line Security has a chance to stop being seen as the function that blocks productivity and start being seen as the function that helps the business adopt better tools safely. Practical takeaway If your team is dealing with AI adoption in the wild, start with visibility before judgment. Understand which tools people are using, what they are using them for, and where the real risk sits before defaulting to blanket restrictions. Link to 2026 Cost of Insider Risks Global Report: https://ponemon.dtex.ai/ Follow The Tech Trek for more conversations with builders, operators, and technology leaders shaping how modern companies work.

    24 min
  6. How Agentic AI Changes Enterprise Software

    MAR 19

    How Agentic AI Changes Enterprise Software

    Sumeet Arora, Chief Product Officer at Teradata, joins The Tech Trek for a sharp conversation on the shift from human driven SaaS to agentic software. This episode digs into what changes when software stops just supporting human workflows and starts driving outcomes alongside people, why trust and governance matter more as AI systems take on more responsibility, and what serious companies need to do now to prepare. This is a practical discussion about where the market actually is, what gets overhyped, and what leaders should focus on beneath the noise. Sumeet lays out a clear view of the emerging enterprise stack, from knowledge and context to agents, governance, and outcomes. He also explains why the winners may not be the loudest companies in AI, but the ones that get their data, knowledge, and operating model right. In this episode • Why agentic software is a real shift, but still in its early stages• What trust, governance, and explainability need to look like in an AI first enterprise• How software companies should rethink product strategy for agents as well as humans• Why every employee may need to become a manager of AI agents• Why knowledge infrastructure could matter more than the agent layer itself Timestamped highlights • 00:45 Teradata’s role in helping enterprises become autonomous• 02:34 Where we really are in the agentic AI maturity curve• 10:16 How software shifts from workflow centric to outcome centric• 16:17 Why every employee may need an AI workforce• 21:57 The skill gap between enterprise users and agentic adoption• 24:48 Why knowledge, not just agents, will define the winners Standout line “The fundamental winners will be ones who get the knowledge fabric correct.” Practical takeaway If you are building for an AI driven future, do not start with agents alone. Start with trusted knowledge, usable context, clear policies, and systems that can explain decisions. The companies that treat agentic AI as a stack, not a feature, will be in a much stronger position. Follow The Tech Trek for more conversations with leaders shaping the future of technology, product, AI, and enterprise transformation.

    29 min
  7. How AI Is Changing Crypto Crime, AML, and Cyber Investigations

    MAR 18

    How AI Is Changing Crypto Crime, AML, and Cyber Investigations

    Victor Fang, CEO and Founder of Anchain AI, joins The Tech Trek for a timely conversation on crypto crime, AI driven fraud, and what financial institutions need to understand as digital assets move closer to the mainstream. This episode is worth your time if you care about cybersecurity, compliance, crypto risk, anti money laundering, or where agentic AI is starting to reshape investigation work. This conversation goes beyond headlines. Victor breaks down how bad actors are using generative AI for phishing, identity fraud, exploit development, and ransomware, then explains how defenders are using AI, graph intelligence, and agent workflows to fight back. It is a sharp look at the collision of crypto, cybersecurity, regulation, and AI infrastructure. In this episode What crypto crime actually looks like today, from exchange hacks to romance scams and ransomware Why crypto risk now extends well beyond crypto native users How financial institutions, regulators, and compliance teams are adapting Where AI is helping attackers move faster, and where it is giving defenders an edge Why agentic workflows and MCP powered investigation tools could change this category fast Timestamped highlights 00:00 Victor Fang on crypto crime, AI versus AI, and agentic AML 00:53 What Anchain AI does and why blockchain investigation is becoming more important 01:56 How generative AI is already being used in crypto crime and phishing 06:30 What banks, regulators, and AML teams need to understand about crypto adoption 10:44 Why Victor believes AI can give defenders the advantage 16:17 How Anchain uses blockchain data, graph intelligence, and agent workflows to investigate faster 22:04 Why the company’s MCP server could extend beyond crypto into KYC and financial applications 25:21 What the next wave of agent driven security and investigation might look like One standout idea from the conversation, crypto is much closer to you than you think. Practical takeaways Crypto risk is no longer a niche issue, it is increasingly tied to broader fraud, ransomware, and financial crime AI is accelerating both offense and defense, which raises the bar for security and compliance teams Agentic investigation workflows could dramatically reduce manual work in AML, fraud, and cyber operations Companies building in regulated spaces need infrastructure that can handle both speed and scrutiny Follow The Tech Trek for more conversations with builders, operators, and technical leaders shaping what comes next.

    29 min
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The Tech Trek is a podcast about how modern technology companies are actually built, with a focus on AI, data, platform, and engineering leadership. Host Amir Bormand talks with founders, CTOs, and technical operators about building products, scaling teams, and making the decisions that shape fast-growing companies.

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