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Join the two Russells, Russell Jervis and Russell Quirk as they delve into the heartbeat of the property industry on their engaging podcast. From discussions about House Price Nutters to exploring the evolving future of high street versus self-employed, they cover a spectrum of topics that encapsulate the essence of the real estate world. Tune in to gain insights into the present landscape and speculate about the future of the industry with these two seasoned experts.

  1. The Two Russells with Annalese Walmsley Sales Director at Kotini

    1D AGO

    The Two Russells with Annalese Walmsley Sales Director at Kotini

    ⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode discusses sexual abuse, coercive control and suicide attempts. For our landmark 50th episode of The Two Russells, we revisit one of the most courageous and unforgettable stories ever shared on the podcast. Annalese Walmsley returns. In Episode 27, she revealed that she had been sexually abused by her father for nine years — and the extraordinary consequences of breaking that silence. This time, she reflects on what happened next. From the anxiety the night before it aired… To the overwhelming response from listeners across the property industry and far beyond… To discovering that sharing her truth may have helped save a life. On the Two Russells platform, a space built for honest conversation within the property world, Annalese chose to speak. Not for headlines, not for sympathy, but for truth. And that truth travelled further than any of us could have imagined. She speaks openly about motherhood, custody battles, grief, resilience, counselling, and the moment the weight finally lifted when silence no longer controlled her. This isn’t sensationalised. It isn’t edited for comfort. It’s raw. It’s human. It’s real. This is not just a follow-up. It’s a testament to the power of speaking out and what can happen when an industry platform becomes something bigger than business. If you or someone you know needs support: NSPCC – https://www.nspcc.org.uk Childline – https://www.childline.org.uk Refuge – https://refuge.org.uk

    50 min
  2. The Two Russells with Regina Mangan

    5D AGO

    The Two Russells with Regina Mangan

    After a relentlessly busy January at Proper PR and Rayner Personnel, we’re back with a powerful international perspective on property and one of our most compelling guests yet. Joining us from Ireland (via Teams) is Regina Mangan, founder of Liberty Blue. In this episode, Regina opens up about: • Why Ireland has no property chains and how that changes everything • A red-hot seller’s market with 57,000 transactions closed last year • Bidding wars, fast conversions, and what the UK can learn from a smaller but highly efficient market • A rental sector in crisis due to chronic lack of supply • The reality of heavy regulation in Ireland and why it actually works Regina’s personal journey is just as gripping. From growing up on a farm to setting up Ireland’s first specialist lettings company at just 24, she shares the reality of making losses for seven years, juggling multiple side jobs, and why failure was never an option. We also talk about: • The bank manager moment you won’t forget • The influence of her mother and the rule of “always keep the front door painted” • Transaction times, fee structures, and why 70% of their clients are first-time buyers • The importance of networking and community in building a resilient agency Plus, Regina gives us a preview of The Real Estate Agency Summit, taking place on 11 June at Theatre Royal, Waterford. A conference designed to go far beyond compliance and into real growth, leadership, and marketing. If you’re in property, agency, PR, recruitment or just love a proper hustle story this episode is essential listening.

    40 min
  3. The Two Russells and Marc von Grundherr

    12/10/2025

    The Two Russells and Marc von Grundherr

    We are joined by the force of nature that is Marc von Grundherr, Director of Benham & Reeves. From a business that began in the 1960s with two feuding brothers in neighbouring offices… to a global network spanning London, Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, Qatar, South Africa, Israel and beyond. Marc gives us the real story behind one of the industry’s most enduring brands. We get into his early property flips, why he’s a self-confessed “control freak in the best way”, the thousand emails a day he reads (yes, including the info@ inbox), and what he thinks is coming for the market in 2026. Plus: sales vs lettings, travelling the world, AI in property, and a few predictions that might surprise you. A fast, funny, high-energy episode. Don’t miss it.

    50 min
  4. The Two Russells with Chris Kelly

    11/28/2025

    The Two Russells with Chris Kelly

    This week we’re joined by Chris Kelly, Head of Marketing at John D Wood & Co., the man who went from marketing Pizza Express’s American Hot… to shaping one of London’s most respected prime property brands. If that doesn’t qualify as range, nothing does. Chris has spent three years in post, brought in to boost brand awareness, grow the business, and put marketing back where it belongs: as a driver of profitability, not an overhead. Today, he oversees a seven-strong marketing team, supporting London, country, and an international footprint with the Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea forming the crown jewel of their market. Average sale price? £1.5m. In other words: serious prime. What we cover in this episode: • Why effectiveness is Chris’s mantra and the metric every marketing team should be judged by • His career path: agencies, pizza, clothing… and now prime London property • How to actually understand your customer and build campaigns that resonate • Working agency-side across M&S, Disney, Santander and Travelodge all speaking the same marketing language • The brands under the John D Wood umbrella and how he differentiates their personalities • Why agents can run their own social channels… but the brand itself must stay curated • How JDW use AI in marketing execution, visuals and copy, and why in some cases it replaces the need for a creative agency • The brutal truth: 50% of applicants come from Rightmove • The bigger truth: ChatGPT will become a key property search tool • The biggest truth: 26 December is the most pointless day to “launch your sale”….Santa isn’t the biggest lie at Christmas… the Boxing Day Rightmove rush is. • 2026 predictions: a split market, challenges at the top end, huge opportunity for those who get the basics right because “it’s an agent’s market”. And we also learn why Chris believes JDW owe him £100k for his Jeeves & Wooster idea. (We’ll let him explain that one…) A brilliant brand. A brilliant conversation. Another one in the can by The Two Russells

    57 min
  5. The Two Russells with Jesper With-Fogstrup

    11/21/2025

    The Two Russells with Jesper With-Fogstrup

    This week we’re joined by someone who makes leadership look effortless (even though his path was anything but). Jesper With-Fogstrup, CEO of Moneypenny, leads a business serving 16,000 clients across the UK and US, with £75m in revenue and a culture so strong you genuinely have to see it to believe it… beehives, pub, subsidised lunches, sky-high retention… the lot. But it’s Jesper’s story that pulls you in: • Born in Denmark • Couldn’t read or write until he was 10 • Moved constantly as a kid (doctor dad = resilience on tap) • Michigan exchange year that shaped his outlook on diversity • MBA at London Business School • A career spanning travel, public and private companies, private equity, and industries you wouldn’t expect • And a behind-the-scenes look at how Compare the Meerkat actually came to be He calls himself the Chief Unblocking Officer, keeps a ‘did I make a difference?’ diary at 5.20pm every day, and approaches AI with curiosity rather than fear. The Two Russells tried their best to get him to spill the beans on Moneypenny’s future exit plans… Jesper smiled. And held his line. Beautifully. This is a warm, surprising, generous conversation with a leader who genuinely makes people better.

    58 min
  6. The Two Russells with Chris Buckler

    10/31/2025

    The Two Russells with Chris Buckler

    Episode 45 of The Two Russells with Chris Buckler, Chief Commercial Officer at TAUK The man redefining what it means to run an estate agency while still letting agents sell From a dodgy paper round to leading one of the UK’s fastest-growing networks Sounds simple… until you hear what happened in between • Sales techniques from Switzerland to Solihull. And a few ice scrapers along the way • Deloitte. DIY flips. A paper round at 10 (illegally) • Keller Williams (ouch). TAUK dreams • 250 agents and counting. With 1,000 firmly in sight He calls it evolution, not change We call it a journey worth watching

    1 hr
  7. The Two Russells with Gareth Samples

    10/24/2025

    The Two Russells with Gareth Samples

    It took him seven interviews to land a trainee job. He started on £1,500 basic and £35 a deal commission per property, armed with nothing more than a script and a bit of attitude. He worked 8am to 8pm, seven days a week and loved every second of it. Fast forward a few decades and he’s now CEO of The Property Franchise Group, overseeing more than 2,000 offices and a £400 million market cap. This is the story of Gareth Samples — the man who failed school, failed college, and decided that failure wasn’t for him. He’s been a negotiator, a manager, a managing director, a “retired” restaurant investor… And now the guy driving one of the biggest PLCs in the business. In this episode, Gareth joins Russell Quirk and Russell Jervis to talk: •⁠ ⁠How he turned failure into fuel •⁠ ⁠Why recruiting great people is his superpower •⁠ ⁠What the corporate world gets wrong about culture •⁠ ⁠The egos, red flags and realities behind today’s industry And why, at 50, he decided he had one big job left in him. From £1,500 basic to £1 billion turnover — powered by old-school graft. Proof that success isn’t luck. It’s earned.

    59 min
  8. The Two Russells with Sam Cerrone

    10/06/2025

    The Two Russells with Sam Cerrone

    ⚠️ Trigger warning: Suicide In this episode, The Two Russells are joined by Sam Cerrone of Cerrone Estates one of EXP’s top performers, part of its elite icon group, and a true million-pound agent, having billed over £1m in fees in just five years. Sam’s journey is far from ordinary. She started out as a hairdresser, then rose through the ranks in estate agency, running the largest Countrywide branch in Selly Oak before being abruptly let go by email on a Sunday night. That setback didn’t stop her, instead, she built a business from the ground up, powered by personality, organisation, and especially Instagram. With 12k followers and 85% of her leads coming from social media, her face is now her brand. She’s so in demand that she sometimes pauses new instructions — with clients waiting until she’s ready to sell their home. But behind the success is resilience shaped by a turbulent childhood. Growing up in a council house, losing her dad to suicide, helping raise her younger brother, and navigating her mum’s struggles with alcohol. Sam’s story is one of grit, responsibility, and determination well beyond her years. Today, she leads a team of five (all close friends), balances work and family, and proves that authenticity and hard work can break every barrier. This is an open, honest, and inspiring conversation with one of the most impressive women in UK estate agency.

    49 min
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Join the two Russells, Russell Jervis and Russell Quirk as they delve into the heartbeat of the property industry on their engaging podcast. From discussions about House Price Nutters to exploring the evolving future of high street versus self-employed, they cover a spectrum of topics that encapsulate the essence of the real estate world. Tune in to gain insights into the present landscape and speculate about the future of the industry with these two seasoned experts.

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  • Creator
    Russell Jervis & Russell Quirk
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    50
  • Rating
    Explicit
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