The Value Builder Podcast

Saul Zenkevicius

The Value Builder Podcast delivers real-world strategies for creating lasting value in commercial real estate. Hosted by Saul Zenkevicius, each episode features operators, developers, and investors who specialize in value-add, adaptive reuse, and execution that performs. No fluff—just tested insights that move the needle.

  1. Jun 17

    The Cash Flow vs Growth Decision Every Investor Faces

    What matters more: building a bigger portfolio or creating more freedom? In this episode of the Value Builder Podcast, Saul sits down with Danny Newberry of Vail Commercial Group to discuss the evolution of a commercial real estate investor, from multifamily beginnings to retail, industrial, office, development, and beyond. Danny shares why he shifted away from aggressively growing his company, how he thinks about cash flow versus equity growth, and the framework he uses to decide which deals to hold long-term and which deals to sell. The conversation also explores today's opportunities in neighborhood shopping centers, small-bay industrial, selective office investments, joint ventures, and the importance of aligning your business with the lifestyle you actually want. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:16 From Multifamily to Retail & Industrial 02:58 Is Office Coming Back? 04:49 Turning Around a 170K SF Houston Flex Building 07:53 Why He Walked Away from a Bigger Business 12:17 The Cost of Chasing More 13:45 The Cash Flow vs Growth Decision Every Investor Faces 16:17 Why Cash Flow Creates Peace of Mind 18:20 Which CRE Deals Should You Hold Forever? 19:40 Partnerships, Capital & Today's Opportunities 20:51 How to Connect with Danny Voss 21:08 What Are You Most Grateful For? 21:53 The Longevity Question 22:20 Closing Thoughts Connect with Danny Newberry 🌐 Website: VailCommercialGroup.com 📧 Email: Danny@VailCommercialGroup.com About Value Builder The Value Builder Podcast features conversations with investors, operators, developers, entrepreneurs, and business leaders focused on creating value through commercial real estate, business ownership, and long-term investing. #CommercialRealEstate #RetailRealEstate #IndustrialRealEstate #CREInvesting #CashFlow #ValueBuilderPodcast #RealEstateInvesting #PassiveIncome

    23 min
  2. May 13

    How to Manage 14,000 Units with Joe Fairless (The $3.9B Blueprint)

    Joe Fairless has built one of the largest multifamily investment platforms in the country, overseeing more than 14,000 units and $3.9B in assets across the Sunbelt. In this episode, Saul sits down with Joe to break down what it actually takes to operate at that scale, how today’s multifamily market is really performing behind the headlines, and why disciplined operations matter more than ever in this cycle. The conversation dives into capital raising, supply pressure, concessions, property management, and the realities of navigating large-scale apartment investing during a shifting market environment. Listener takeaways include: How Joe scaled to 14,000+ units and a $3.9B portfolio What’s really happening in Sunbelt multifamily markets right now Why concessions and supply pressure are lasting longer than expected How institutional-quality operations create long-term stability The importance of diversifying capital sources and investor relationships What experienced operators are watching over the next 12–18 months Whether you're an active multifamily operator, passive investor, syndicator, or CRE entrepreneur, this episode offers a practical look into managing large apartment portfolios through changing market conditions. Connect with Joe Fairless: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joefairless Podcast: https://www.bestevercre.com/podcast Website: https://ashcroftcapital.com 🔔 Subscribe for weekly conversations with commercial real estate operators, investors, and builders creating long-term value. #CommercialRealEstate #MultifamilyInvesting #ApartmentInvesting #RealEstateInvesting #CapitalRaising #CRE #ValueBuilderPodcast

    24 min
  3. Apr 29

    Flex Industrial Forecast: Where Rents, Demand & Smart Money Are Headed

    In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Saul sits down with Cody Payne of Flex Parks USA, one of the most experienced operators in small bay flex industrial, alongside partner Shea Lewis. With over 20 years in the space and more than 10,000 transactions closed, Cody breaks down what’s actually happening in today’s flex industrial market—from rent trends and tenant demand to why newer metal product is outperforming traditional infill. This conversation goes beyond surface-level insights and gets into what’s really driving pricing, leasing velocity, and investor behavior in 2026. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why newer metal flex parks are commanding higher rents than infill assets The real difference between contractor-driven demand vs growth-driven markets What buyers are actually looking for in stabilized vs value-add deals How tenant mix, clear height, and location impact long-term performance Why basic “commodity” flex space is most at risk of oversupply The key amenities and features that separate top-performing parks From development strategy to disposition insights, this episode gives a clear look at where flex industrial is heading—and how to position yourself on the right side of it. Connect with Cody: Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Flex-Space-Domination-Capitalizing-Industrial/dp/B0D385755L LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codypayne/ Online: https://flexbusinessparks.com/

    35 min

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The Value Builder Podcast delivers real-world strategies for creating lasting value in commercial real estate. Hosted by Saul Zenkevicius, each episode features operators, developers, and investors who specialize in value-add, adaptive reuse, and execution that performs. No fluff—just tested insights that move the needle.

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