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In this episode, we’re joined by Russell Napier. Fans of the pod will recall that Russell first appeared on TVP in 2021, so this is a warm welcome back. For those not familiar, Russell is an independent market strategist, financial historian, an author and the co-founder of the Library of Mistakes. If you find yourself in Edinburgh, the Library is well worth a visit - check out their website for further details.
Juan and Russell explore what has changed in the world from a monetary point of view since his last appearance on TVP. They discuss what history has taught us about the state in which we find the world today, given the conflicts in Europe and the Middle East, but also what the current analysis is missing out on. They’ll reflect on Russell’s very well-timed prediction on inflation coming back, which he made in 2021, but also what is coming next. Finally, they analyse China’s need to further devalue its currency. Enjoy!

Welcome to Allocator’s Edge, a Value Perspective podcast mini-series where we will be engaging in conversations with some of the world’s top capital allocators. In this everchanging landscape of heightened inflation and interest rates, we aim to unravel how and why capital allocators make the decisions that they do. Join us as we explore the nuances between healthcare foundations, examining the impact of inflation on endowments and the strategic choices between share buybacks and dividends for pension schemes. In this miniseries we aim to shed light on the inner workings of capital allocation, helping both investment teams and listeners gain a better understanding of mandates, global interplay and the intricate dance between strategy and reality. New episodes of the Allocator’s Edge will be released on alternating Thursdays.
In this episode we are joined by Chetan Gosh. Chetan joined Schroders in 2022 as part of the Outsourced Chief Investment Officer (OCIO) Solutions team. You may recall our discussion on OCIO from our recent episode with Jim Dunn in the US. Today we’ll chat with Chetan about what that role looks like in the UK, including his aim to be the provider of choice for OCIO and Fiduciary Management Services. Before joining Schroders, Chetan was the CIO of Centrica’s pension scheme arrangements and the firm’s CIO for 12 years. There, his role covered investment strategy considerations, asset class and manager research, and liaison with investment advisors. Previous to Centrica, Chetan developed a fiduciary management offering at an asset manager, following his start as a pensions actuary. In this episode, Juan and Chetan sat down to discuss what is an OCIO; the challenges of the UK pension industry and all of its different schemes; caps on fees; runs to passives and the newest entrant on the scene – alternatives; how the gilts crisis impacts the industry and finally the impact of inflation.

In this episode in the Value Perspective ESG mini-series we’re joined by Kathryn Porter, founder of the consultant firm Watt-Logic. Kathryn started her career in the finance and energy sectors with a focus on structured products and new business development. She founded Watt-Logic in 2016 to advise energy companies across the EU and UK on how to best capture the commercial opportunities of the energy transition. She noted how traditional market frameworks in the sector are being rapidly replaced which enables new sources of income and threatens business models. In her spare time Kathryn is a trustee of the Kid’s Cookery School, an amazing charity that teaches cooking and nutrition skills to children across the UK and the Royal Choral Society, one of the leading amateur choirs in the country. In this episode, we discuss: the current landscape of the UK energy market and its main challenges; her views about wind and how her thoughts have changed over time; challenges to the UK grid when absorbing renewables; where UK energy policy stands today relative to the challenges faced by the energy transition debate; and finally, why she believes nuclear is the right strategy to move forward. Enjoy!
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Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. 
Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. 
Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised. 
Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy.
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In this episode of Allocator’s Edge on the Value Perspective we’re joined by Jim Dunn. Jim is the CEO of Verger Capital Management and has been with the firm since 2014. Prior to this Jim was Vice-President and Chief Investment Officer at Wake Forest University, responsible for investment of the University’s endowment, working capital and life income assets.  Verger caught our eye because they are an outsourced chief investment officer (OCIO) that exclusively serves non-profits including educational institutions, non-profit healthcare and community and cultural foundations. Verger was created by Jim at the Wake Forest University Office of Investments as a spin-off OCIO to serve other endowments and their client base has continued to grow ever since. We sat down with Jim to discuss: Verger’s fascinating history; how inflation impacts endowment economics; their 3P mantra – Protect, Perform and Provide; asset allocation based on reverse optimisation; his thoughts on volatility and liquidity inside an endowment mandate; and finally, how do you make sure you have the right decision-making environment. Enjoy!
NEW EPISODES:
We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players.
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Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only.
Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. 
Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. 
Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised. 
Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy.
Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode, we revisit a favourite pet topic of ours on the Value Perspective, special situation investments, especially those that are driven by human biases. Our guest this week is Jim Royal, author of The Zen of Thrift Conversions. In our conversation we focus on decision making in a particularly niche field in America - thrift banks, which are also known as mutualised bank conversions. We discuss: what thrifts are and what types of thrift there are; what human biases are at play in this arena; what motivates the management of a mutualised bank to convert to a public company; what is the alignment between insiders and outsiders in the IPO process; why are thrifts attractive compared to other financial services companies; and finally, the case for buying into second step thrift conversion. Enjoy!
NEW EPISODES:
We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players.
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Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only.
Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. 
Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. 
Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised. 
Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy.
Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

Welcome to a milestone episode for the Value Perspective podcast, marking our 100th episode. To help us celebrate, we’re delighted to be joined by Mark Walker for the latest instalment in our Allocator’s Edge mini-series, where we talk with some of the world’s top capital allocators. Mark is the CIO of Coal Pension Trustees Services (CPT), responsible for the £22bn of investments of the Mineworkers Pension Scheme and the British Coal Staff Superannuation Scheme. Prior to joining CPT, Mark was Managing Director and Global Chief Investment Officer of the Univest Company, Unilever’s internal investment group. The Univest Company oversees the investments of Unilever’s pension plans in over 40 countries. Mark joined Unilever from Mercer where he was a Partner and head of the London Investment Consulting Unit. In his busy schedule, Mark somehow finds time to act as an adviser to Arkadiko Partners and is a non-executive director at People’s Investment. He is also a member of the 300 Club and a Fellow of the Institute of Actuaries. Mark joined us to discuss: his career so far;  the history of CPT; the difference between working as a consultant and being the CIO of a large pension plan; the differing structures of CPT and Unilever’s pension plans; how he measures an investment’s performance; the importance of communication with shareholders; the difference in asset allocation between a text book and the real world; his views on climate change and the energy transition; and finally, his thoughts on Active vs Passive. Enjoy!
NEW EPISODES:
We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players.
GET IN TOUCH:
send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam 
Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only.
Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. 
Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. 
Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised. 
Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy.
Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extra