The Way Forward Regenerative Conversations

Dr. John Izzo, Alain Gauthier & Jim Burke

Three Elders explore how to renew the world we helped mess up The Way Forward Podcast is dedicated to Regenerative Conversations about the future of humanity and planet. We think we need to re-think the current paradigm. Each episode explores how we can find a positive future forward for society and for ourselves. We explore the question: What is the Way Forward? We don’t have the answers, but we hope to stimulate all of us to imagine what is possible. We bring a wide variety of guests – including people at the leading edge of their field and willing to think out of the box – and engage into stimulating conversations with them, in a place of open curiosity. Topics will include a wide range of issues including environmental change, technology, governance, organizational design, sustainability, international peace, agriculture, and personal renewal. Alain Gauthier and Dr. John Izzo (the co-hosts) and Jim Burke (the producer) offer together more than a hundred years of organizational experience in the forms of consulting, change facilitation, keynote speaking and research/teaching for a wide variety of businesses, non-profits, government, and universities both in the US and abroad. We would like to thank our sponsors Elders Action Network “Building a movement of elders to address the environmental, governance and social issues of our time“ and Blueprint “Enhancing the well-being of men and communities.” You can reach us at the email address thewayforwardrc@gmail.com

  1. Jun 17

    AI vs. Democracy

    Only one in ten Americans say our democracy is working well — and most believe the model we've relied on for generations is broken. So what if the technology everyone fears could actually help fix it? In this episode, Dr. John Izzo sits down with Beth Simone Noveck — who served in the Obama White House, advised 10 Downing Street, and wrote Reboot: AI and the Race to Save Democracy — for a genuinely hopeful conversation about the one question almost nobody at this year's TED conference was asking: not whether AI will save us or destroy us, but whether it can help us govern better, listen better, and rebuild trust between citizens and their institutions.   EPISODE SUMMARY We've been told there are only two AI stories: the robot apocalypse that eats every job, or the trillion-dollar gold rush. Beth Noveck argues both headlines miss the one that matters most — how AI could help repair democracy itself. Drawing on her new book Reboot: AI and the Race to Save Democracy, Beth and John explore why so many democracies feel brittle right now, and what history teaches us about institutions that bend versus institutions that break. Beth traces her own origin story — from studying the fragile, hopeful democracies of 1920s Europe that collapsed into fascism, to growing up as a child of the early internet and building one of the very first online platforms for civic dialogue. Both experiences left her asking the same question: what makes some institutions work, and others shatter? From there, the conversation gets practical. Beth makes the case that today's core democratic problem isn't a scarcity of information but an overwhelming abundance of it — and that AI's real promise is as a powerful tool to help us cut through the noise and actually solve problems together. She shares concrete, already-working examples: the UK government using AI to analyze public consultations that once took months and millions in a matter of hours; the city of Hamburg engaging residents on real infrastructure decisions; AI cleaning up voter rolls so eligible voters don't get lost; and under-resourced candidates finally able to compete with the big political machines. John and Beth dig into the hard parts too — political rigidity (not just polarization), the collapse of common ground, gerrymandering, and the uncomfortable truth that AI is "only as good as we are." They close on hope: Beth's "AI for Impact" fellows building free tools like GrantWell to help small towns win public funding, and the free peer-to-peer learning community InnovateUS, where people teach one another how to use AI for the public good. The throughline, in Beth's own words: AI won't save democracy — people will. But for the first time, we may have the tools to try. In this conversation: Why "democracy feels broken" — and the statistics behind the feeling What 1920s Europe teaches us about institutions that break instead of bend Rigidity vs. polarization — and why the distinction matters The "messy middle": getting past the save-the-world / destroy-the-world AI binary A "moonshot for democracy" — using AI to fix governance, not just climate or wellness Real examples: the UK consultation analyzer, Hamburg, ERIC voter rolls, leveling the field for first-time candidates Gerrymandering and the double-edge of the same tools What gives Beth hope: AI for Impact fellows, GrantWell, and InnovateUS   ABOUT OUR GUEST — Beth Simone Noveck Beth Simone Noveck is one of the world's leading thinkers on technology, governance, and civic innovation. She is the author of Reboot: AI and the Race to Save Democracy (Yale University Press) and a professor at Northeastern University, where she directs The Burnes Center for Social Change and its partner project, The Governance Lab (The GovLab). Her work focuses on "Democratic AI" — applying artificial intelligence to strengthen democratic institutions and improve how government actually serves people. Beth previously served in the Obama White House as the first United States Deputy Chief Technology Officer, where she founded the White House Open Government Initiative, and she has advised 10 Downing Street and the German Chancellery. She also served as New Jersey's first Chief Innovation Officer and Chief AI Strategist, and she leads InnovateUS, a free program training public-sector professionals in AI and innovation skills. 🔗 Connect with Beth: Book — Reboot: AI and the Race to Save Democracy: https://rebootdemocracy.ai/book/ Reboot Democracy: https://rebootdemocracy.ai/ The GovLab: https://www.thegovlab.org/ InnovateUS: https://innovate-us.org/   ABOUT OUR HOST — Dr. John Izzo Dr. John Izzo is a bestselling author, advisor, and speaker who has addressed more than one million people and worked with over 1,000 organizations worldwide. He is the author of nine books, including Stepping Up, The Purpose Revolution, and The Five Secrets You Must Discover Before You Die. A Distinguished Fellow at the Stimson Center in Washington, DC, his current work focuses on reimagining democracy — renewing the civic fabric, rebuilding trust, and creating institutions that work again. He is co-host of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations. 🔗 Connect with John: Website: https://drjohnizzo.com/ Stimson Center: https://www.stimson.org/ppl/john-izzo/   SUBSCRIBE & FOLLOW If this conversation gave you something to think about, here's how to stay with us: ▶ Subscribe on YouTube (and hit the bell so you never miss an episode): https://www.youtube.com/@thewayforwardrc?sub_confirmation=1 🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ (paste your show's Apple Podcasts URL) 🌐 Visit our website: https://wayforwardpodcast.com 🔗 All our links in one place: https://linktr.ee/thewayforwardrc 📧 Reach out: thewayforwardrc@gmail.com   JOIN THE CONVERSATION 💬 We'd love to hear from you. Where do you land — can AI actually help repair democracy, or does it put it at greater risk? Leave a comment below; John reads them, and your perspective genuinely shapes where this series goes next.   THANK YOU Thank you for spending this time with us and for being part of The Way Forward community. Conversations like this one matter most when they're shared — if you found it valuable, pass it along to someone who's wrestling with these same questions. Onward, together. The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations — tackling the big issues of our time and asking how humanity and planet can have a positive way forward.

    58 min
  2. Jun 2

    The River Remembers: How a Tribe Brought the Salmon Back A Conversation with Amy Bowers Cordalis

    What if a river could be brought back to life after a century behind concrete? Amy Bowers Cordalis grew up on the Klamath River, watched the largest salmon kill in American history unfold before her eyes, and then helped lead the largest dam-removal and salmon-restoration project the world has ever seen. This is the story of a 170-year family fight, a people who refused to give up, and the moment the salmon finally came home. Come for the victory — stay for what it teaches us about healing ourselves, our communities, and the Earth. Episode Summary In this episode of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations, Dr. John Izzo and Alain Gauthier sit down with Yurok attorney, activist, and author Amy Bowers Cordalis to explore one of the great environmental and human-rights stories of our time. Amy takes us from her earliest memories of abundance on the Klamath River, through generations of Indigenous resistance, to the catastrophic 2002 fish kill that set her on a path to law school and a lifelong mission. She shares how the Yurok Tribe declared personhood rights for the Klamath, how the river itself “spoke” to power-company executives at Blue Creek, and how four dams finally came down — with salmon returning to spawning grounds they hadn’t reached in a hundred years. Along the way, the conversation turns to faith, joy, the false narratives that keep us divided, and the truth that we are not apart from nature but a part of it. It is a story of rewilding, regeneration, and hope: if the river can heal, so can we. About the Guest — Amy Bowers Cordalis Amy Bowers Cordalis is a Yurok Tribal member, attorney, and activist who served as General Counsel for the Yurok Tribe and was instrumental in the historic removal of four dams on the Klamath River — the largest salmon-restoration project in world history. A former attorney with the Native American Rights Fund, she was named a 2024 United Nations Champion of the Earth (Inspiration and Action) and included on the 2024 TIME100 Climate list of the most influential leaders in climate action. She is co-founder and Executive Director of Ridges to Riffles Indigenous Conservation Group, which she established in 2022 with co-founder Molli Myers (Karuk). The organization provides legal, scientific, and grassroots support to Indigenous Peoples working to protect and restore the natural and cultural resources at the heart of their identity and sovereignty. Amy is also the author of the acclaimed memoir The Water Remembers: My Indigenous Family’s Fight to Save a River and a Way of Life (2025), a multigenerational story of Indigenous resistance, environmental justice, and homecoming. Connect with Amy and her work: Website: https://amybowerscordalis.com Ridges to Riffles: https://www.ridgestoriffles.org The Book: The Water Remembers (Hachette Book Group) Ridges to Riffles — Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ridgestoriffles Ridges to Riffles — Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ridgestoriffles About the Hosts Dr. John Izzo is a bestselling author, speaker, and advisor who has spent more than 30 years working at the intersection of leadership, purpose, and social responsibility. He has spoken to over a million people, advised hundreds of leading organizations, and written nine books, including The Purpose Revolution and Stepping Up. A former Presbyterian minister with a Ph.D. in Communication Studies, John brings a deep grounding in both spiritual traditions and practical change-making to every conversation. Learn more at https://drjohnizzo.com. Alain Gauthier is co-founder and coordinator of the Regenerative Elder Process (REP) at the Elders Action Network (EAN). Now in his 80s, Alain devotes his work to co-creating the conditions for elders to live regenerative lives and to collaborate with younger generations in transforming education and community life. Inspired largely by Indigenous worldviews, the Regenerative Elder Process supports elders in integrating inner growth, community wisdom, and courageous action to help regenerate society, democracy, and the living Earth for future generations. Learn more at https://eldersaction.org/regenerative-elder-process. About The Way Forward The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations is hosted by Dr. John Izzo, Alain Gauthier, and producer Jim Burke. The podcast explores the deeper questions facing humanity through thoughtful dialogue with scholars, leaders, and practitioners working toward a more regenerative future. Connect With Us Linktree: https://linktr.ee/thewayforwardrc Website: https://wayforwardpodcast.com Email: thewayforwardrc@gmail.com Join the Conversation If you value thoughtful conversations like this: Subscribe to the channel Turn on notifications Share your reflections in the comments We’d love to hear what this story stirred in you — leave a comment and let us know.

    59 min
  3. Mar 12

    The Iran Conflict: Roots, Realities and What Comes Next a conversation with Barbara Slavin

    What is really happening in the growing conflict involving Iran, Israel, and the United States — and how should we understand it beyond the headlines? In this episode of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations, veteran journalist and Middle East expert Barbara Slavin joins us for a thoughtful exploration of the historical, political, and cultural forces shaping the current crisis. Barbara is a Distinguished Fellow at the Stimson Center, one of Washington’s leading non-partisan think tanks focused on international peace and security. With more than three decades covering Iran and nine visits to the country, she brings rare depth and nuance to a conversation often reduced to polarized narratives. This discussion explores the Iran conflict, U.S.–Iran relations, Israel–Iran tensions, Middle East geopolitics, nuclear diplomacy, sanctions policy, and the future of regional stability. Rather than amplifying fear or taking sides, we slow down and ask: What historical forces led to this moment? • How does Iranian nationalism shape current events? • What geopolitical realities lie behind the headlines? • What roles do Russia, China, Europe, and regional powers play? • What realistic paths forward might still exist? Our goal — consistent with the spirit of The Way Forward — is to offer a calm, reflective conversation that helps us understand complex global events with greater depth and wisdom.   Topics Covered Iran–Israel tensions and escalation risks • U.S.–Iran relations and the legacy of the 1953 coup • Iran’s nuclear program and regional security • Russia and China’s role in Middle East geopolitics • Economic pressures and protests inside Iran • Iranian nationalism and public opinion • Drone warfare and asymmetric military strategy • Diplomacy, sanctions relief, and possible paths forward • Cultural understanding between the United States and Iran   Timestamps 00:00 Introduction — why this conflict matters now 03:15 Barbara’s 30-year journey studying Iran 06:00 Escalation from the 2025 bombings 06:22 Was the strike on Iran a surprise? 09:29 Iranian nationalism and the legacy of the 1953 coup 11:37 Possible pathways for the crisis 14:59 Iran’s drone capabilities 15:22 The human dimension inside Iran 19:43 Economic pressures and protests 20:21 The nuclear question 25:01 Why targeting leaders rarely works 26:48 Diverging U.S. and Israeli objectives 30:06 Russia and China’s strategic role 33:35 Impact on Gulf states and regional stability 35:52 Diplomacy and sanctions relief 38:03 Iranian culture and civilization 43:05 Iranian public opinion on Israel 46:00 Can Europe play a constructive role? 48:06 Barbara’s closing reflections 52:05 John’s closing thoughts   About Our Guest Barbara Slavin is a Distinguished Fellow at the Stimson Center, a leading Washington think tank dedicated to international peace and security. She previously reported for The Economist and USA Today and has covered Iran and the Middle East for more than 30 years. Her book Bitter Friends, Bosom Enemies remains one of the most insightful analyses of U.S.–Iran relations.   Watch Our Previous Conversation The Middle East in Crisis: A Conversation with Barbara Slavin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwiYDua4Jnk&t=863s   About The Way Forward The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations is hosted by Dr. John Izzo, Alain Gauthier, and producer Jim Burke. The podcast explores the deeper questions facing humanity through thoughtful dialogue with scholars, leaders, and practitioners working toward a more regenerative future.   Connect With Us Linktree https://linktr.ee/thewayforwardrc Website https://wayforwardpodcast.com Email thewayforwardrc@gmail.com   Join the Conversation If you value thoughtful conversations like this: 👍 Subscribe to the channel 🔔 Turn on notifications 💬 Share your reflections in the comments What perspectives on Iran or the Middle East deserve deeper discussion?

    54 min
  4. Mar 7

    Minneapolis, Immigration, and America’s Struggle With the Outsider

    Immigration has become the defining fault line of our time — but are we really as divided as it seems? Dr. John Izzo and Alain Gauthier are joined by Kathryn Ringham, an elder activist living at the center of the storm in Minneapolis. Together they unpack what's happening on the ground, what the polling data actually reveals, and what a genuine way forward looks like.   🎧 What You'll Hear John's Sicilian grandparents and why the melting pot has always been a myth Kathryn on 'Metro Siege': fear, unmarked cars, and a community under pressure 50,000 protesters in minus-29-degree wind chill — and the 'Minneapolis Model' What polling actually shows: where Republicans and Democrats agree 40 years of failed reform — IRCA 1986, the Johnson-Reid Act, McCain-Kennedy 2006 Alain on Europe's parallel identity crisis and the power of relational energy   💡 Key Quotes "Immigration is not a crisis to eliminate — it's a force to manage wisely." — Kathryn Ringham "The extremes are holding the conversation — but most Americans are far more nuanced." — Dr. John Izzo "We need to move from fear to love — relational energy people feel for their children and grandchildren." — Alain Gauthier   📊 Key Data 79% of Democrats support deportation of criminal immigrants 65% of Republicans say immigration is good for the United States 60% of Republicans support a path to status for long-term, law-abiding residents 60% of Americans say ICE tactics in Minneapolis were too harsh Last major immigration reform: IRCA, 1986 — nearly 40 years ago   👥 Hosts & Guest Dr. John Izzo — bestselling author, keynote speaker, board member of Elders Action Network, and co-host. Nine books, 500+ companies advised, 1M+ people reached.   Alain Gauthier — international facilitator, systems thinker, and co-host. French immigrant and 40-year green card holder bringing a rare transatlantic lens to every conversation.   Kathryn Ringham — elder activist, retired clinical social worker, and lifelong Minneapolis resident. Member of the Elders Action Network, living two miles from the epicenter of the ICE surge.   📲 Subscribe & Stay Connected Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, or Podbean Leave a comment — your voice helps others find us Share this episode with someone who needs a thoughtful conversation 🔗 linktr.ee/thewayforwardrc 🌐 wayforwardpodcast.com 📧 thewayforwardrc@gmail.com   Thank you for being part of our community. Honest conversations are where the way forward always begins.

    47 min
  5. Feb 13

    From Retirement to Regeneration: Why Elders Matter More Than Ever

    Episode Overview In a culture obsessed with youth, are elders still relevant — or more necessary than ever? Across traditional societies, elders were honored as wisdom keepers and guides. Yet in modern Western culture, aging is often equated with retirement, retreat, and irrelevance. What if this moment in history calls for something radically different? In this powerful episode of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations, Dr. John Izzo, Jim Burke, Diana Shoemaker, and Alain Gauthier explore the rise of the Regenerative Elder — blending inner transformation with outer activism to serve future generations. A Regenerative Elder is someone who consciously integrates inner growth, community wisdom, and courageous action to help regenerate society, democracy, and the living Earth for future generations. Together, through the work of Elders Action Network (EAN) and its educational and activist initiatives — including Elders Rising — they examine how elders can move from retirement to regeneration and become a vital force for societal renewal. Whatever your age, this conversation may transform how you see aging, leadership, activism, and the future itself.   🌱 The Role of Elders Action Network This episode highlights the unique role of Elders Action Network, a national organization committed to combining inner development with meaningful civic engagement. Unlike many organizations that focus solely on activism, EAN integrates personal reflection, worldview transformation, and community-building with action in climate, democracy, and regenerative living. A special focus in this episode is Elders Rising, the emerging educational and community hub within EAN. Elders Rising serves as an entry point for elders seeking: A deeper exploration of purpose Community with like-minded elders Training for regenerative leadership Tools for activism rooted in reflection Intergenerational collaboration Elders Rising centers and connects EAN’s programs — including the Regenerative Elder Process, Resilience & Acceptance, Future Design, and Exploring Elderhood — into a coherent pathway for elder transformation and contribution.   ⏱ Episode Chapters 00:00 Introduction – The Role of Elders in Modern Society 01:09 John’s Experience with Elders in Tanzania 02:42 Introducing the Elders Action Network 04:25 Why Elder Activism Matters Now 05:42 EAN: Purpose and Practice 13:43 The Regenerative Elder Process (REP) 20:17 Upcoming Courses & Community Engagement through Elders Rising 24:38 Why Elder Cohorts Matter 27:21 Community & Belonging in Later Life 28:14 Elders Taking Action Locally 30:33 Intergenerational Collaboration & Future Design 31:54 Elders, History & Patriotism 33:37 Education, Resilience & Sacred Activism 36:19 Rebuilding Community & Cooperation 46:41 How to Get Involved with Elders Action Network 50:41 Final Reflections & Encouragement   🌱 How to Get Involved with Elders Action Network & Elders Rising If this conversation speaks to you, here are ways to engage through Elders Action Network and Elders Rising: Join a Climate or Sound Democracy action team Participate in the Regenerative Elder Process (REP) Begin your journey with Exploring Elderhood Join the Resilience & Acceptance (RA) community Participate in the EAN Book Club Volunteer in a leadership role Support intergenerational initiatives through Future Design EAN operates through volunteer leadership and community engagement — elders are not just participants, but co-creators of the work.   🔗 Resources & Links Dr. John Izzo’s TEDx Talk (Boomers & Legacy) The Defining Moment for a Generation-In-Waiting: Dr. John Izzo at TEDxVancouver Elders Action Network (EAN) https://eldersaction.org/ Elders Rising https://eldersaction.org/elders-rising/ Regenerative Elder Process (REP) https://eldersaction.org/regenerative-elder-process/ Future Design Program Future Design Intergenerational Workshop - Session 1 of 3 — Elders Action Network Podcast Episode on Future Design 👉https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bbsu-Ph-R0   Resilience & Acceptance (RA) Resilience & Acceptance in the Face of Collapse — Elders Action Network EAN Book Club & Programs Book Study Group — Elders Action Network Exploring Elderhood Course Exploring Elderhood — Elders Action Network   👥 About Our Guests Dr. John Izzo Leadership expert, bestselling author, and TEDx speaker. John serves on the board of Elders Action Network and is a global voice on purpose-driven leadership, legacy, and generational responsibility. Jim Burke Producer of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations, longtime healthcare leader, Vietnam veteran, and regenerative elder activist. Jim is deeply involved with Elders Action Network, Elders Rising initiatives, and climate resilience efforts in Washington State. Diana Shoemaker Executive Director of Elders Action Network. Diana leads national initiatives in elder activism, community resilience, and regenerative leadership, and oversees the development of Elders Rising as a central educational platform. Alain Gauthier Co-founder of the Regenerative Elder Process and longtime leadership consultant. Alain brings deep experience in worldview transformation, regenerative thinking, and elder wisdom traditions within Elders Action Network.   🎧 Stay Connected If this conversation resonates with you: 👉 Subscribe on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform https://www.youtube.com/@thewayforwardrc/featured 👉 Like & Comment — we read every comment 👉 Visit our  website https://thewayforwardrc.com  Visit our Linktree (all platforms & support links): 👉 https://linktr.ee/thewayforwardrcfor events, programs, and ways to support the work 👉 Share this episode with someone navigating retirement or rethinking elderhood Your engagement helps grow a movement of regenerative elders through Elders Action Network and Elders Rising.   🙏 Thank You Thank you for being part of this community. Whether you are an elder, becoming an elder, or reflecting on your place in a rapidly changing world — you matter. The future is not something we wait for. It is something we co-create — together.

    54 min
  6. Feb 10

    Is Trump a Symptom—or a Wake-Up Call? Reflections on 2025

    Was 2025 a year we should forget—or the year everything finally became undeniable? As we step into 2026, the hosts of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations take on the hardest questions of our time: polarization, democracy, violence, climate disruption, and the collapse of shared meaning. This conversation is honest, provocative, and deeply personal—and we don’t all agree. If you’re wondering where to put your energy now, this episode is for you.   🧭 Show Notes – Episode Summary In this special 2025 Reflections / 2026 Looking Forward episode, all three hosts—John Izzo, Alain (Alon) Gauthier, and Jim Burke—come together to examine what 2025 revealed about the state of humanity, democracy, and the planet. They explore: How social media algorithms curate entirely different realities—and fuel polarization Why the rule of law and social norms are breaking down globally Whether figures like Donald Trump are causes—or symptoms of a deeper systemic failure The rise of narcissism at every level: individual, national, and even species-wide Why mitigation alone is no longer enough for climate change—and why adaptation and regeneration must happen together The twin inflection points of democracy and artificial intelligence in 2026 Why the real work ahead is inner and outer, personal and systemic The conversation moves beyond headlines and elections to ask a deeper question: Who are we becoming—and how will we choose to respond? This episode also gives listeners a rare chance to get to know the hosts personally: what grounds them, what challenges them, and where they’re putting their energy in the year ahead.   👥 Host Bios Dr John Izzo, PhD John Izzo is a bestselling author, speaker, and former Presbyterian minister whose work focuses on purpose, meaning, leadership, and the future of humanity. He brings moral clarity, historical depth, and a gift for asking the questions most people avoid. John is the author of multiple books, including The Purpose Revolution: How Leaders Creae Engagement and Competive Advantage in an Age of Social Good, and a longtime voice calling for deeper reflection in times of disruption. Alain Gauthier Alain is a systems thinker, facilitator, and co-creator of the Regenerative Elder process. Drawing from Indigenous history, lived experience, and spiritual inquiry, he helps individuals and communities integrate inner transformation with outer action. His work focuses on regeneration, resilience, and the re-emergence of elder wisdom in a fractured world. Jim Burke Jim Burke is the producer of The Way Forward and a lifelong health professional, systems thinker, and climate activist. He serves on multiple local and regional committees focused on infrastructure, climate resilience, and regenerative community development. Jim is deeply interested in longevity, lifestyle medicine, clean energy, and redefining elderhood for the 21st century.   🔗 Links & Where to Find Us Podcast & Website: 👉 https://thewayforwardrc.com Linktree (all platforms & support links): 👉 https://linktr.ee/thewayforwardrc Listen & Watch: YouTube Apple Podcasts Amazon Podcasts Spotify Instagram & YouTube Shorts   📣 Call to Action (Subscribe, Comment, Engage) If this conversation resonated with you: ✅ Subscribe on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform 💬 Leave a comment—we read them and respond 🔁 Share this episode with someone who’s asking similar questions ☕ Support the show via Buy Me a Coffee (linked in our Linktree) Your engagement helps us grow this community of thoughtful, courageous, regenerative conversations.

    1h 4m
  7. 12/05/2025

    No More Illusions: McKibben, McLaren & Read on the Climate Truth We Can’t Ignore

    In this episode of The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations, John Izzo hosts Bill McKibben, Brian McLaren, and Dr. Rupert Read for a raw and urgent dialogue on the climate crossroads. Together, they confront illusions, speak truth we can’t ignore, and explore what agency we still hold in shaping our future. Perfect for listeners seeking depth, courage, and clarity in the climate conversation. Summary In this powerful conversation, recorded live at The Climate Crossroads, our panel explores the defining moment humanity now faces. Bill McKibben highlights the accelerating physical realities of a warming planet — and the political forces working to slow progress. Dr. Rupert Read explains why adaptation, resilience, and community transformation may be our most underused leverage points. Brian McLaren examines the spiritual and psychological roots of the crisis, and why outdated worldviews continue to hold us back. Together, they illuminate how technological change, moral courage, and community-scale action must converge to create a livable future. They invite us to move beyond false optimism and paralyzing doom — toward grounded, regenerative action rooted in compassion, clarity, and connection. This is the first in a series of Crossroads Conversations exploring how elders, activists, and communities can rise to meet the challenges of our time.   👥 Guest Mini-Bios Bill McKibben Bill McKibben is a pioneering climate author, journalist, and activist who wrote the first major book on global warming, The End of Nature. He is the founder of 350.org and Third Act, mobilizing older Americans for climate action. His latest book, Here Comes the Sun, explores the global revolution in solar energy. 🔗 https://thirdact.org 🔗 https://350.org 🔗 “Here Comes the Sun” (2024)   Brian D. McLaren Brian McLaren is a former pastor, public theologian, and bestselling author whose work explores spirituality, social transformation, and climate consciousness. His recent book, Life After Doom, examines our spiritual response to the ecological crisis and the path to deeper courage and connection. 🔗 https://brianmclaren.net 🔗 “Life After Doom” (2023)   Dr. Rupert Read Dr. Rupert Read is a philosopher, author, and co-founder of the Climate Majority Project, focused on mobilizing broad societal engagement in climate adaptation. He served as a prominent spokesperson and strategic voice for Extinction Rebellion, helping shape its early messaging and global impact. His work, including Why Climate Breakdown Matters and Transformative Adaptation, calls for a profound shift in how communities prepare for a rapidly changing world. 🔗 https://rupertread.net 🔗 https://climatemajorityproject.com 🔗 “The Climate Majority Project” (2024) 🔗 “Transformative Adaptation” (2024)   🙏 Sponsor Acknowledgment This episode is brought to you by the Elders Action Network (EAN) and Elders Climate Action (ECA) — two organizations mobilizing elders across the world to stand for democracy, climate justice, and a regenerative future. 🌐 https://eldersaction.org 🌐 https://eldersclimateaction.org   📣 Audience Call to Action (YouTube & Podcast) If this conversation moved you, inspired you, or challenged you — please support our work: ✅ Subscribe to the podcast & YouTube channel ✅ Leave a comment with your insights or questions ✅ Share this episode with five people who care about our future ✅ Visit our website for episodes, resources, and upcoming events: 🔗 https://linktr.ee/wayforwardpodcast

    1h 28m
  8. 11/25/2025

    How to Stop a Nuclear War — and Why We’re Not Talking About It

    In this powerful and timely conversation, Dr. John Izzo and Alain Gauthier sit down with award-winning filmmaker and journalist Paul Jay, whose upcoming documentary How to Stop a Nuclear War dives deep into the existential risks humanity continues to ignore. Together, they explore why the Cold War never truly ended, how nuclear weapons remain an urgent and immediate threat, and what each of us can do to break the silence and reclaim our collective future. This episode is not just about nuclear war — it’s about truth, power, media silence, and our responsibility as citizens of a shared planet. Jay shares the untold story behind the nuclear threat and the making of his new film inspired by Daniel Ellsberg’s The Doomsday Machine. He argues that the Cold War didn’t end — it simply evolved — and that the same forces of fear, profit, militarism, and denial continue to push humanity toward catastrophe. You’ll hear why policymakers rarely talk about nuclear weapons, how media myths shape public perception, why dialogue with our “enemies” is essential, and how ordinary citizens can influence extraordinary change by confronting the “house of dynamite” we all live in before it explodes.   About Paul Jay Paul Jay is an award-winning Canadian filmmaker, journalist, and founder of TheAnalysis.news (https://theanalysis.news). Formerly CEO and senior editor of The Real News Network, Jay has produced highly acclaimed documentaries including: Hitman Hart: Wrestling with Shadows Return to Kandahar The Four Horsemen (producer) Lost in Las Vegas He is also the founding chair of the Hot Docs International Documentary Festival, now the largest documentary festival in North America. Paul is currently directing How to Stop a Nuclear War, based on Daniel Ellsberg’s The Doomsday Machine, examining the systems of power that shape global nuclear policy — and how citizens can reclaim agency over issues that determine humanity’s survival. Explore more of his work: https://theanalysis.news   Our Sponsors This episode is made possible through the generous support of our partners: Elders Action Network — https://eldersaction.org Elders Climate Action — https://eldersclimateaction.org Their work empowers elders everywhere to stand up for democracy, climate action, justice, and the future of life on Earth.   Stay Connected Thank you for joining us on The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations. If this episode moved you, please: Subscribe to the channel Like the episode Share it with friends and allies Leave a comment — we read every one and deeply appreciate your thoughts Tell us: What gives you hope about the way forward? Explore more episodes and sign up for updates at: https://www.youtube.com/@thewayforwardrc     Upcoming Live Event The Climate Crossroads: Why Haven’t We Changed — and How We Do Now 📅 Tuesday, December 2 ⏰ 8:00–9:30 am PT / 11:00 am–12:30 pm ET A live global event presented by The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations Podcast. https://www.youtube.com/@thewayforwardrc We know the science — yet society still struggles to change. Why? Join three of the most respected voices in the climate movement for a rare, candid dialogue: Bill McKibben — Founder of 350.org & Third Act Dr. Rupert Read — Philosopher, author of Parents for a Future Brian McLaren — Theologian, activist, and author Moderated by Dr. John Izzo, this 90-minute event confronts the hard truth of where we stand — and explores the pathway from paralysis to courageous collective action. Hosted by Elders Action Network, Elders Climate Action, and The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations Podcast. Attendees will have the chance to ask live questions. 👉 Register now and be part of the generation that turns awareness into action: The Climate Crossroads: Why Haven’t We Changed — and How We Do Now - Elders Action Network

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Three Elders explore how to renew the world we helped mess up The Way Forward Podcast is dedicated to Regenerative Conversations about the future of humanity and planet. We think we need to re-think the current paradigm. Each episode explores how we can find a positive future forward for society and for ourselves. We explore the question: What is the Way Forward? We don’t have the answers, but we hope to stimulate all of us to imagine what is possible. We bring a wide variety of guests – including people at the leading edge of their field and willing to think out of the box – and engage into stimulating conversations with them, in a place of open curiosity. Topics will include a wide range of issues including environmental change, technology, governance, organizational design, sustainability, international peace, agriculture, and personal renewal. Alain Gauthier and Dr. John Izzo (the co-hosts) and Jim Burke (the producer) offer together more than a hundred years of organizational experience in the forms of consulting, change facilitation, keynote speaking and research/teaching for a wide variety of businesses, non-profits, government, and universities both in the US and abroad. We would like to thank our sponsors Elders Action Network “Building a movement of elders to address the environmental, governance and social issues of our time“ and Blueprint “Enhancing the well-being of men and communities.” You can reach us at the email address thewayforwardrc@gmail.com

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