The Young Ike Project

Upwing Media, Griffith Pugh

Building a new environmental majority through honest conversation. A podcast and participatory dialogue initiative exploring the defining environmental challenges and tradeoffs shaping our shared future.

  1. 6h ago

    Public Lands Under Threat: Season Premiere

    America holds more than 600 million acres of public land—forests, canoe country, deserts, and backcountry that belong to all of us. Right now, for the first time in a generation, their future is genuinely up for debate. ‍ ‍ In this opening episode, host Griffith Pugh lays out the roadmap for the season: the sell-off proposals, agency shake-ups, and battles like the Boundary Waters mining ban—and the deeper questions beneath them. Most importantly, he explains why these issues matter to anyone who's ever fished, hunted, paddled, or walked a trail they didn't have to pay to use. ‍ ‍ Throughout this season, we'll hear from the people who have spent decades managing, defending, and studying America's public lands—not to tell you what to think, but to help you understand what's changing and what's at stake. ‍ ‍ Featured Voices This Season Hal Herring — journalist and author, on why public lands remain one of America's greatest democratic ideas—and the economic forces reshaping them. Mike Dombeck — the only person to have led both the U.S. Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management, on the long pendulum of conservation history and what real stewardship requires. Dave Zentner — lifelong Minnesota conservationist and past national Izaak Walton League president, on sixty years of building coalitions across the aisle. Becky Rom — national chair of the Campaign to Save the Boundary Waters, from the front lines of one of the country's defining public-lands fights. How This Season Works Episodes release weekly over the coming weeks. Follow along, then take the conversation off the algorithm and into the real world through Podclubs—community-led discussion groups modeled after book clubs. ‍ ‍ Ready to keep the conversation going? Find a Podclub near you—or start your own—at theyoungike.org/podclub. ‍ ‍ Sources & Further Reading Federal Public Lands Federal land ownership overview — Congressional Research Service Mike Lee's public-lands sell-off proposal — Utah News Dispatch Idaho's study on taking over federal lands — Boise State Public Radio Federal Agencies Forest Service headquarters moving to Salt Lake City — USDA Closure of 57 research stations — PEER Repeal of the 2001 Roadless Rule — USDA · Pew Proposed U.S. Wildland Fire Service — Department of the Interior Boundary Waters Public Land Order 7917 (20-year mining ban) — Save the Boundary Waters H.J.Res.140 challenge — Congress.gov · Center for Western Priorities ‍ ‍ Background ‍ ‍ Where the West's water comes from — U.S. Forest Service ‍

  2. Jun 23

    Future Makers: Biochar & Turning Waste Into Climate Solutions ft. Jason Dodier

    Climate Future Makers is a monthly series from The Young Ike Project spotlighting people actively building real-world climate solutions. The goal is to move beyond the doom-and-denial cycle that often defines environmental discourse and instead tell the stories of builders, innovators, and leaders shaping a more sustainable future right now. Our second guest is Jason Dodier, co-founder of Grain Ecosystem, a company working at the intersection of carbon removal, waste management, and regenerative agriculture. After spending more than a decade in the global energy and infrastructure sector, Dodier turned his attention to one of climate's most overlooked opportunities: transforming waste streams into valuable environmental and economic assets. In this episode, we explore Dodier's journey from international business and energy infrastructure to climate entrepreneurship. Along the way, he shares how experiences working across the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and the United States shaped his understanding of energy systems, economic development, and the growing need for scalable climate solutions. We also dive into the emerging world of biochar—a carbon-rich material created from agricultural and forestry waste that can improve soil health, reduce pollution, generate renewable energy, and permanently remove carbon from the atmosphere. Dodier explains how Grain Ecosystem helps connect project developers, investors, waste producers, and carbon markets to accelerate the deployment of these technologies across communities around the world. Finally, we discuss the challenges of building a climate startup, the importance of storytelling in driving innovation, and why Dodier believes many of the most important climate solutions will emerge from local communities willing to rethink their relationship with waste, energy, and land.

  3. Mar 17

    AI, Hype, and the History of Tech Bubbles: What Past Manias Can Teach Us About the Data Center Buildout ft. Dr. Andrew Odlyzko

    Andrew Odlyzko is a mathematician, technology historian, and professor at the University of Minnesota who has spent decades studying the relationship between innovation, finance, and technological manias. His research spans everything from the railway booms of the 19th century to the dot-com bubble—and what those earlier episodes can teach us about the AI buildout happening today. In this episode, we zoom out from the day-to-day politics of data centers to ask a bigger historical question: what happens when a transformative technology collides with hype, speculation, and the promise of world-changing progress? Odlyzko explains why AI fits into a much longer story of technological booms, why bubbles often form around real breakthroughs, and how past manias sometimes left society with useful infrastructure even when investors got burned. We also talk about why he believes the current AI moment is becoming more dangerous. As improvements in large language models begin to look more incremental, the scale of spending on chips, data centers, and infrastructure keeps rising. Odlyzko argues that the real warning sign is financial: once the buildout moves beyond hyperscalers spending their own profits and starts drawing in outside investors through increasingly creative financing, the broader risks grow. This is apart of The Young Ike’s Live Series. To find a Podclub event near you or start your own, visit: theyoungike.org/podclubThis is apart of The Young Ike’s Live Series. To find a Podclub event near you or start your own, visit: theyoungike.org/podclubFollow us on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theyoungike/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Young-IKE-61579184976598/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-young-ike/

  4. Mar 2

    A “Small City” of Water Demand: Why Data Centers Are a Water Governance Stress Test ft. Carrie Jennings

    Carrie Jennings is the Research and Policy Director at the Freshwater Society and a geologist by training. She’s one of Minnesota’s leading voices on groundwater and water policy. A past guest from last season, we’re thrilled to have her back on the podcast. In this episode, we talk about the rise of hyperscale data centers and what they could mean for water in Minnesota and across the Great Lakes region. Jennings explains why groundwater is often misunderstood as “infinite,” how data centers can function like adding a new small city’s worth of demand to the edge of a metro-center. We also dig into the governance problem: non-disclosure agreements, limited public data on actual water use, and how municipal hookups can effectively let data centers “jump the line” during scarcity—despite statutory water-use priorities. Jennings closes by outlining where Minnesota’s system is breaking down and what it would take to build clearer rules before the next wave of high-volume water users arrives. This is apart of The Young Ike’s Live Series. To find a Podclub event near you or start your own, visit: theyoungike.org/podclubThis is apart of The Young Ike’s Live Series. To find a Podclub event near you or start your own, visit: theyoungike.org/podclubFollow us on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theyoungike/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Young-IKE-61579184976598/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-young-ike/

  5. Feb 1

    One Year In: The Boundary Waters under Trump 2.0 ft. Becky Rom

    This episode is a special break from our current season on data centers and the environmental trade-offs of the AI infrastructure buildout. Instead, we return to the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness for a clear-eyed, one-year-in assessment of what has actually changed under the second Trump administration. When I first spoke with Becky Rom just before the 2024 election, much of the conversation was shaped by uncertainty. A year later, a lot has changed. Or has it? Recorded on January 21st—the morning the House voted on H.J. Res. 140—this conversation walks through the concrete policy mechanics behind the fight to undo federal protections for the Boundary Waters: the 20-year mining withdrawal, the Congressional Review Act, and what’s at stake if Congress succeeds. Rom, National Chair of the Campaign to Save the Boundary Waters, explains what change is tangible versus symbolic, how federal and state protections intersect, and why this moment feels both like a culmination of the past year—and another critical chapter in the decades-long battle over America’s most visited wilderness.Articles Mentioned: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/02/11/an-ely-group-agrees-on-the-value-of-the-boundary-waters-but-they-cant-agree-on-mining?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.themeateater.com/conservation/public-lands-and-waters/protecting-the-boundary-waters-is-a-test-of-leadership-for-americas-publicLearn more about SAVE at: savetheboundarywaters.orgFollow us on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theyoungike/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Young-IKE-61579184976598/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-young-ike/

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Building a new environmental majority through honest conversation. A podcast and participatory dialogue initiative exploring the defining environmental challenges and tradeoffs shaping our shared future.