theblerdgurl Podcast with Karama Horne

Karama Horne

A Different Side of Geek

  1. 02/08/2024

    How Lucas Film partnered with Black anime studio in Japan for Star Wars series

    I had the pleasure of interviewing the talented creators behind one of the most powerful episodes of the animated anthology series Star Wars Visions Volume 2 . The episode, titled “The Pit” ais from the mind of writer/producer/director Leandre Thomas of Lucasfilm with animation provided by Arthel Isom, founder of of D’ART Shtajio. With an incredible voice cast featuring Daveed Diggs, Anika Noni Rose, and Jordyn Curet, their contribution to the acclaimed anthology series depicts a young man’s rebellion against Imperial oppression. Leandre and Arthell shared fascinating insights into their creative collaboration, weaving meaningful real-world themes into this inventive animated Star Wars story. We discussed realizing their vision of Black characters in the Star Wars Universe and how the created a new Black character that uses the Force for the series. Arthel Isom of D’ARt Shtajio and LeAndre Thomas of LucasFilm created “The Pit” for Star Wars Visions II LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed this interview please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! THIS WEEK’S SPONSOR GET TICKET TO VIRTUOUS CON 2024 NOW! SHOW NOTES Star Wars Visions II Fix your credit with SELF! theblerdgurl Patreon D’ART Shtajio LeAndre Thomas

    45 min
  2. 11/08/2023

    Sasheer Zamata on Witches, Wokeness and Women

    According to the National Library of Medicine, video games are more than just play; they’ve been shown to help with various mental disorders, from ADHD to anxiety. That’s the heart of what we’re getting into on this week’s episode of “Theblerdgurl Podcast.” I had the chance to sit down with Derrick Hoard, aka “The Situational Therapist.” He’s a practicing therapist and a gamer, which means he really gets the potential games have for our mental health. Derrick and I chatted about how gaming is often misunderstood. It’s not just about addiction or escape—sometimes, it’s a vital social lifeline. (This episode was set for May, but hey, better late than never, right?) This episode is packed with insights, but remember, it’s no replacement for one-on-one professional guidance. If you find it resonates, don’t hesitate to seek out a therapist. (I’ve left a couple of resources in the show notes) This episode was sponsored by Otaku Noir Sasheer Zamata wrote and co-produced her latest stand-up special “The First Woman” before seh was cast in “Agatha: Darkhold Diaries” LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed my chat with JACQUE AYE please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! THIS WEEK’S SPONSORS otaku noir DISCOUNT CODE: THEBLERDGURL Watch “The First Woman” below SHOW NOTES Otaku Noir Mystery Box Watch “The First Woman”

    27 min
  3. 11/04/2023

    The Situational Therapist: Gaming Through a Mental Health Lens

    According to the National Library of Medicine, video games are more than just play; they’ve been shown to help with various mental disorders, from ADHD to anxiety. That’s the heart of what we’re getting into on this week’s episode of “Theblerdgurl Podcast.” I had the chance to sit down with Derrick Hoard, aka “The Situational Therapist.” He’s a practicing therapist and a gamer, which means he really gets the potential games have for our mental health. Derrick and I chatted about how gaming is often misunderstood. It’s not just about addiction or escape—sometimes, it’s a vital social lifeline. (This episode was set for May, but hey, better late than never, right?) This episode is packed with insights, but remember, it’s no replacement for one-on-one professional guidance. If you find it resonates, don’t hesitate to seek out a therapist. (I’ve left a couple of resources in the show notes) NOTE: DERRICK IS A LICENSED FAMILY THERAPIST NOT A CLINICAL DOCTOR. This episode was sponsored by Otaku Noir Derrick Hoard is a licensed family therapist also known as “TheSituational Therapist” LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed my chat with JACQUE AYE please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! THIS WEEK’S SPONSORS otaku noir DISCOUNT CODE: THEBLERDGURL SHOW NOTES NOTE: DERRICK IS A LICENSED FAMILY THERAPIST NOT A CLINICAL DOCTOR. Otaku Noir Mystery Box Fix your credit with SELF! Therapy for Black Girls JED Foundation

    40 min
  4. 11/01/2023

    From the Boondocks to Blacula Rodney Barnes shows us how it's done

    In this episode of THEBLERDGURL® PODCAST Karama welcomes back the multi-talented Rodney Barnes, a seasoned writer with an impressive career spanning from ’90s shows like “The Boondocks” and “Everybody Hates Chris” to his current work, “Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty” and “Wu Tang: An American Saga.” During their chat, Rodney shares some exciting news about his upcoming comic project, “Florence and Normandie,” which is a cool collaboration with rapper Xzibit. and reveals Todd McFarlane agreed to a SPAWN appeaernce in “Killadelphia” . And just in time for Halloween, Rodney has dropped the trailer for his new horror podcast, “Run Fool.” It’s perfect for horror fans who love creepy anthologies. This was a really fun epsidoe. Please comment and subscribe! Rodney Barnes will launch the new horror podcast ” Run Fool” in November LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed my chat with JACQUE AYE please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! Watch this interview on youtube THIS WEEK’S SPONSORS otaku noir DISCOUNT CODE: THEBLERDGURL SHOW NOTES Otaku Noir Mystery Box Killadelphia Run Fool podcast Florence & Normandie Blacula: Return of the King Transcript Email Download New Tab Karama (00:00:00) - Rodney, I am so excited that you are back to join me. It's been a minute. I think the last time I talked to you it was my live stream on Twitch and it was like 2021, which is like 35 years ago. Rodney (00:00:13) - That's way too long. That's way too long. I'm about ten years older. Exactly. Karama (00:00:18) - It's like I keep telling everybody like the pandemic was the blip, so we all lost about a decade. I have some notes about what we talked about last time, and I think this is going to be really fun, sort of walk down memory lane for a second. So you were in the writers room for Winning Time season one the first time we spoke, winning Time The rise of the Lakers. Your hit show on Max now, season two just finished airing, and you've won a Black award and were nominated for an Emmy. Congrats. And you also did a podcast for that show, right? Rodney (00:00:49) - Yes, I did the Winning Time podcast. Yeah. Karama (00:00:52) - You also had just launched your own imprint, Zombie Love Studios, and inked a deal with Substack, where you run your Dark Apocrypha newsletter. Karama (00:01:00) - Full disclosure I'm a subscriber. Nita Hawes: Nightmare blog, the spin off To KillAdelphia, had just come out, and you hinted that you might be doing a little something with Blacula. Yes. And now Blacula and Nita Hauser out kill Adelphia continues. You had another kids comic, I think Monster Monarch. Rodney (00:01:21) - I did a book. Monarch. Yeah, it was a little bloody for kids, but yes. Karama (00:01:25) - And then I saw. Rodney (00:01:26) - Kids in it. Karama (00:01:26) - There were kids in it. Rodney (00:01:27) - Running for their lives. But yes, yes, poor kids. Karama (00:01:31) - It was like anime. You were just killing them. Yeah. Rodney (00:01:33) - There you go. There you go, there you go. Karama (00:01:36) - And then I saw a mandalorian comic in there. Um, and then you recently you announced a comic with exhibit, and then somebody from your team sent me an Alice Cooper comic that features Prince and Michael Jackson in hell with Richard Pryor. Rodney (00:01:53) - There you go. Karama (00:01:54) - Yes. What are. Rodney (00:01:55) - You. Miles Davis is in the background to. Oh my. Karama (00:01:57) - God. So let's start with these comics, man. Uh, and also, since, you know, we're in spooky season and horror is your jam. Yep. Blacula return of the King. Yeah, that dropped January of this year, which also probably feels like 20 years ago. Rodney (00:02:15) - It does. Karama (00:02:16) - For those who don't know what is the premise. Is this tied to the original movie? Rodney (00:02:20) - It is tied to it. I actually do a recap in every chapter is five chapters long and every chapter. I sort of use the movie as motivation and incentive to to sort of say why I did this. It's not literal in that sense, but why Prince Marmalade, aka Blacula is still relevant, why he fits in today's world, and then the ongoing narrative within the story is supporting that idea that he does fit in this world, and that he has a place and a significant place, and hopefully folks dig it. Karama (00:02:59) - Well, it seems like a lot of folks are digging it. I believe that is the hardcover out. Rodney (00:03:04) - The full hardcover comes out this spring that's actually being printed as we speak, but I think it's in previews now. Karama (00:03:13) - And did Jason Shawn Alexander do the art on that or he did. That's your buddy. That's your partner in crime? Rodney (00:03:19) - I don't know how when I when it's over for me and I get to wherever I'm going, I'm going to ask, what was Jason? Why do you why did y'all put me with Jason? Of all the people in the world, we have the same birthday to do. Karama (00:03:30) - You really? Rodney (00:03:30) - We do have the same birthday for being so different as human beings. We. It's like the universe is teasing us in some way. Karama (00:03:38) - Wait, when's your now? I got to know. When's your birthday? Rodney (00:03:39) - September 19th. Karama (00:03:41) - I was just it just passed. Well, in fact, it passed a month ago. So happy belated, happy belated. Thank you very much. Jason's art is absolutely incredible. And that's one of the things that I've been like, fascinated with watching. Karama (00:03:55) - Um, now winning time. Rodney (00:04:00) - Winning time was canceled. Karama (00:04:02) - Because Max canceled a lot of things this year. Rodney (00:04:04) - It did, and we were along with it. I mean, I think it was tough. Whenever you try to bring a show in the midst of two strikes where you can't really properly promote it, a lot of people didn't even know we were back on, but very proud of the work that we did. You know, that was a it was an online campaign, I think, to try to bring the show back. And a lot of people who were outraged that the show had ended, so glad that some people loved it. And, you know, onward and upward. Karama (00:04:36) - Absolutely. I mean, you have a long career in television and you've done so many incredible, incredible shows. I'm sure you're going to have another fantastic one next. Rodney (00:04:47) - Lord willing. Karama (00:04:48) - The you will. Oh, stop. Okay. Rodney (00:04:51) - My kids are outside shipping right now. They nervous? Karama (00:04:54) - Oh my God. Rodney (00:04:55) - Is this it? Is it over daddy? I'm like well I don't know. Rodney (00:04:59) - It's. Everything's got to end well. Karama (00:05:00) - Let's talk let's talk about the strike just briefly. Because for people who don't understand that the actors union is still on strike, but the writers strike is now officially over. What was the win? What what was the the thing that you guys were able to do? And I know when I say you guys, I am clearly not referring to you yourself as the person who was doing all the negotiating, but. Rodney (00:05:25) - I wish I was. No, I mean, I think we got we got the bumps in and pension and health care that typically we're shooting for. But I think the bigger things are limitations with AI restrictions as to how it's going to be used, larger writers rooms so that younger people get an opportunity to come in and build careers. Also, they can stay on writers get to stay on during production, which means that writers can come to set and they can learn how to actually produce and figure out how everything works. As far as the set is concerned. Rodney (00:06:00) - And, you know, more often than not, you know, showrunners or executive producers are the only ones that stay on and come to set. And now the actual writer can as well. So there's a myriad of things. I mean, it's a really long list of stuff, but it was a win. I'm just sorry that it took so long, like so many months and there was so much acrimony. And, you know, a lot of people lost a lot of money and a lot of things, so that's unfortunate. Karama (00:06:24) - Yeah. It's tough, you know? And like you said, a lot of people like yourself have kids, have families, have mortgages. And, you know, while you're striking, you're trying to stay afloat, you know. Rodney (00:06:34) - Manage all that. Karama (00:06:34) - Stuff. Yeah. It's it's it's tough. But I'm happy that a resolution was achieved. And I can't wait to see your your next TV show, too. But in the meantime, you got 157 comics. I do so. Rodney (00:06:49) - Far too many as I look up to my board. Um, far too many books. Well, the. Karama (00:06:55) - Last time we spoke, you said. I feel like I took a note on this. You said you you write something like 12 or 13 books a month. Are you still running at that pace? Rodney (00:07:04) - It's 8 to 10 now. Okay. It feels like 12 to 13. Yeah. Karama (00:07:09) - The. So. Okay, Blacula, is that getting another volume or is that okay. So you have that going on. Rodney (00:07:17) - I want to do three volumes of Blacula. Blacula takes a little bit longer because both Jason and I are really, really busy. It's an expensive book to put together. It's a labor of love. So it's not just something that you sort of crank out. Karama (00:07:31) - Yeah, it's very lyrical. Even the way the text comes in and out, it's not the same as your average like nine panel up, you know, fit everything in nice box. Rodney (00:07:41) - It's inspired. Yeah. It's inspired. Kara

    49 min
  5. 10/23/2023

    The Changeling Chronicles: Victor LaValle on Adapting his hit horror novel to the screen

    Just in time for the spooky season, Victor LaValle joins us on theblerdgurl podcast. Renowned for his novels “The Ballad of Black Tom,” and “Lone Women,” Victor’s creativity through horror also shines in his comics such as “Sabretooth: The Adversary,” “Victor Lavalle’s The Destroyer,” and “Eve,” with the latter two being adapted for the screen. We talk in depth about the adaptation of his award-winning novel, “The Changeling,” on Apple TV Plus. The series, enriched by standout performances from Lakeith Stanfield, Clark Backo, and Adina Porter, is a must watch. Lavalle also cites “Lovecraft Country” as one of his inspirations for the series. For those who recall Victor’s thought-provoking discussion about the legacy of “Candyman” on my “Pop Paranormal” podcast, this conversation is another gem. Please comment and subscribe! Original author Victor Lavalle was heavily involved in theApple TV+ adaptation of “The Changeling” LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed my chat with JACQUE AYE please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! WATCH MY INTERVIEW WITH VICTOR LAVALLE ON YOUTUBE! SHOW NOTES Victor visits Pop Paranormal Fix your credit with SELF Sabretooth Comic Eve Comic Victor Lavalle’s Destroyer Comic Watch The Changeling Here

    47 min
  6. 06/11/2023

    The Angry Black Girl and Her Monster

    In this episode I speak with writer Director Bomani J. Story about his new film “The Angry Black Girl and Her Monster”. A new horror film out in theaters June 9 and headed to streaming service Shudder. The indie horror film is a remix of on  Mary Shelley’s “Frankenstein” and follows a teenaged genius named Vicaria. Who, after her brother’s murder, decides she’s going to find a cure – for death.  Now, I’m not going to lie, this is absolutely a horror movie about Black trauma. However, the bloodletting just for “trauma porn”, instead the entire film serves as a metaphor within the horror genre as a commentary on the effects of intergenerational trauma. BAFTA Award winning actress Laya DeLeon Hayes (God of War: Ragnarok, The Equalizer) is incredible in this film alongside Chad L. Coleman, (The Walking Dead, From) and Denzel Whitaker (Black Panther). There are some mild spoilers in this interview.  So if you want to see it fresh, go watch the movie and then come back and check out this interview The Angry Black girl and Her Monster is out now in select theaters and headed to Shudder LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed my chat with JACQUE AYE please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! Show Notes: Bomani Instagram Film Instagram Movie Website Fix your Credit with Self Pop Paranormal TBG Patreon Transcript Email Download New Tab 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:07:07 Karama so, Bomani, welcome. I'm so excited to talk to you about this film. 00:00:07:07 - 00:00:14:24 Karama And as all the little moments of horror that I like. But then there's also like an underlying theme, 00:00:14:24 - 00:00:24:18 Karama let's start with where this came from. What was the inspiration for this film and when did you find time to write this? 00:00:24:20 - 00:00:45:15 Bomani You know, I mean, starts starts with the literature, man. Like, I love the book. I'm a huge, huge fan of the book. And I just felt like they were leaving a lot of stuff from the book on the floor. And I wanted to not only do that, but also recapture the focus because a lot of people focus on the monster. 00:00:45:17 - 00:01:04:19 Bomani And I wanted to bring it back to, you know, the story is about Frankenstein, Rise and fall, you know, the mad scientist. So I wanted to bring that back. And on top of that, I wanted I grew up with two older sisters who, you know, mentored me my whole life, what I love and adore. And I use them as my muse for this. 00:01:04:19 - 00:01:08:15 Bomani So you mix all that and out comes this. 00:01:08:17 - 00:01:17:13 Karama So, okay, so I got two questions for you. Seven From that by book you mean Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, right? Because it's a bunch of Frankenstein that Oh, yeah. 00:01:17:15 - 00:01:18:21 Bomani Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. 00:01:18:21 - 00:01:40:11 Karama To make sure everybody else. And I don't know how your sisters feel, but I'm the oldest and my brothers are younger, and I don't know how I feel. If they wrote a movie about me chopping people up and trying to turn the neighborhood into monsters. So did you get along with your sister? 00:01:40:13 - 00:01:45:15 Bomani No, I got along with my sisters, you know, I mean, obviously as siblings. So, you know, there's going to be dust ups, but. 00:01:45:20 - 00:01:47:24 Karama It's going to be ill because. 00:01:48:01 - 00:01:48:24 Bomani Yeah, yeah. 00:01:49:00 - 00:01:52:11 Bomani But no, we we all love each other. We're Gucci. Yeah, that's. 00:01:52:12 - 00:01:53:24 Karama Actually, speaking to that, 00:01:53:24 - 00:02:00:22 Karama were there moments that you actually wrote things in the script for Vicaria to say they were like, pulled right out of your life? 00:02:00:24 - 00:02:06:20 Bomani Yes, absolutely. They're record right out of their mouths. You know, 00:02:06:20 - 00:02:07:00 Bomani some. 00:02:07:00 - 00:02:10:05 Bomani Of the parts are more like. 00:02:10:07 - 00:02:15:22 Bomani More obvious to them of just like, oh, I remember saying that, you know, But other. 00:02:15:22 - 00:02:17:06 Karama Parts are quite like that. 00:02:17:11 - 00:02:19:09 Bomani Yeah. I was like, yeah, well, one of them's. 00:02:19:09 - 00:02:21:09 Bomani Exactly what she said. 00:02:21:09 - 00:02:30:16 Bomani And then there are other moments where, you know, they they don't know. So it's like there's Easter eggs on top of Easter eggs for four people in here. 00:02:30:16 - 00:02:34:21 Bomani And even for my sisters, you know, specifically for them, 00:02:34:21 - 00:02:39:17 Bomani don't tell them, like you just have to watch it again. And then you can you can see it for yourself. 00:02:39:17 - 00:02:57:24 Karama well, I'm thinking of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. I'm thinking of Victor Frankenstein being been very wealthy. You know, I come from a wealthy family, just wants to experiment and it sort of feels guilty for what he's done later. But Victoria is not wealthy. Her her. She's a different kind of relationship with death. 00:02:58:05 - 00:03:00:15 Karama Can you go into that a little bit? 00:03:00:17 - 00:03:14:17 Bomani No. Yeah. I mean, I just always kind of saw it as like she was someone who was going to put this together. Like I wanted her to be an actual an actual genius, an actual inventor. 00:03:14:17 - 00:03:22:11 Bomani I never saw it as someone who, like, how many multibillionaires are actually just like, inventing things. 00:03:22:13 - 00:03:34:06 Bomani You know, to me it's just like, hey, there are you know, there might be some. But as far as my knowledge of the people I like, you know, it's just like they're they're genius comes from being able to, like, invest in pay off. Like, you know, it's like, exactly. 00:03:34:08 - 00:03:38:00 Karama You know, those Easter eggs. You have a couple in there about Edison. I was like. 00:03:38:02 - 00:03:40:01 Bomani Yes, I. 00:03:40:01 - 00:03:48:16 Karama Feel I feel the same way kind of about Bill Gates. I'm like, did he really invent all the things? Yeah. Did he just pay for all the places where all the low income people invented that? 00:03:48:19 - 00:03:54:20 Bomani Yeah, you know what I mean? It's just like the people who are actually, like, building a chair is a carpenter. 00:03:54:22 - 00:03:56:05 Bomani Right? Not a. 00:03:56:05 - 00:04:19:19 Bomani Business owner. It's a carpenter. Right. And so to me, she, like, she needed to put this together. So to me she need to have all these elements, right? So it was important to me for it to look like, you know, she scavenged these things. But like, you can't stop the spark, you know? I mean, the first car looks nothing like what it looks like today, but it was put together a certain way, you know, with the means that they had. 00:04:19:21 - 00:04:32:24 Bomani So to me, that's like that was really important to me to kind of capture how her and genius works. Because to me, that's what that's the element of genius that I feel like people forget like of where it's coming from. 00:04:33:01 - 00:04:53:04 Karama Yeah, no, absolutely. And she is a genius. And you show her actually in her something. How sectors relate to being the only black girl in the all white class. Oh, my God. All right. We had all kinds of buttons. But is but that that feeling of otherness and that feeling of being foreign and you are a monster to them because they don't understand you. 00:04:53:09 - 00:04:55:02 Karama And don't be a smart black girl. 00:04:55:04 - 00:04:58:17 Bomani Oh, it hurts my sisters. 00:04:58:17 - 00:05:00:21 Karama Did your sisters help you with some of those lines, too? 00:05:01:01 - 00:05:02:03 Bomani Oh. 00:05:02:05 - 00:05:05:14 Bomani I mean, that scene in the school is directly what happened to one of my sisters. 00:05:05:15 - 00:05:06:13 Bomani Oh, wow. 00:05:06:14 - 00:05:28:22 Bomani Yeah. You know, it's like it's kind of a it's a legendary story around our dinner table, you know, that, like, keeps comes up every once in a while. It's like a greatest hits, you know? So. Yeah, no, like, um, as I said, it was like I was, I was musing after them and, like, and they thought when stuff would happen, they would think maybe I wasn't listening, but I'm always listening. 00:05:28:24 - 00:05:32:00 Karama The younger brothers are always, listen, you got to be careful what you say in front of them. 00:05:32:02 - 00:05:32:09 Bomani Yeah. 00:05:32:14 - 00:05:34:17 Karama My younger brothers are twins. I had it. 00:05:34:19 - 00:05:36:21 Bomani Worse. 00:05:36:23 - 00:05:43:13 Karama They they still kicking my ass. So I just want to corroborate something. This is your first. 00:05:43:13 - 00:05:46:05 Bomani So your first? 00:05:46:07 - 00:05:47:01 Bomani Yeah. 00:05:47:03 - 00:05:54:23 Karama I'm just checking because I'm just going to run off the cast a little bit. Leah Gillette, Jillian Hayes and Hayes. 00:05:54:23 - 00:05:55:11 Bomani You? 00:05:55:13 - 00:06:12:18 Karama Denzel Whitaker. Chad Coleman. Okay, so we got some heavy hitters here for your first time out of the gate. How does that feel when you saw the cast list, when you saw the cast accepting these roles? 00:06:12:20 - 00:06:42:16 Bomani Man, it just made me feel like I was like, wow, Like they're responding, right? Like they they're enjoying this stuff. Right? And like, that was that was phenomenal to me. Like, it just felt so gratifying, you know, throughout this filmmaking process. Like, it's it's a tough thing to get a film off the ground and get it made. B

    28 min
  7. 05/19/2023

    AI vs IP: Lawyer Wynton Yates weighs in

    A.I. is everywhere, and although it can be used as a creative tool, what’s making the headlines is how generative AI tools like midjourney and ElevenLabs ca mimc everything from fake everything from a picture of the Pope to an entire Frank Ocean album. In In this episode, I’m joined by entertainment and social media lawyer Wynton Yates as we discuss intellectual property, the media and the legal and ethical issues surrounding AI-generated content. We cover topics such as contracts, ownership, copyright, and the potential dangers of generative AI being used for malicious purposes. We also discuss the challenges of developing a system that protects everyone’s rights and gives them an equal voice. (Even how an actual monkey is helping redefine IP!) Be prepared to take notes! Wynton drops some serious knowledge in this one. Wynton Yates regularly breaks down legal terms for content creators on Tiktok @lawyerwynton #fanart and #fanfiction is awesome! Just stay safe out there y’all #lawyerwynton #tiktokattorney #copyrightattorney ♬ Blade Runner 2049 – Synthwave Goose Wynton sharing his knowledge (for entertainment purposes) on Tiktok LISTEN BELOW OR CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER If you enjoyed my chat with JACQUE AYE please subscribe and leave a comment over on iTunes for me if you can, it really helps me out. Or, screenshot your podcatcher and tag theblerdgurl over on IG stories with what you liked about it! Show Notes: Follow Wynton Yates TBG Podcast Media Kit Templates Pop Paranormal TBG Patreon Transcript Email Download New Tab 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:07:24 Karama Hey, folks, welcome back to THEBLERDGURL PODCAST. I'm Karama horne a.k.a. “theblerdgurl” And today we're going to talk about intellectual property. 00:00:07:23 - 00:00:13:01 Karama Everybody right now is talking about creative ownership and intellectual property. 00:00:13:00 - 00:00:25:22 Karama from the Writers Strike and their request for residual rights on streaming content to the air creators out here, reproducing music in the likeness of artists like Frank Ocean and Drake and even the weekend. 00:00:25:23 - 00:00:29:22 Karama Well, today I'm talking to a real entertainment lawyer about all this. 00:00:29:22 - 00:00:34:12 Karama Wynton Yates joins me today and he's going to give us details on how creators can protect themselves. 00:00:34:13 - 00:00:45:07 Karama we talked about so much stuff today, but the discussion about I think is the most important, especially coming from an intellectual property entertainment lawyer. 00:00:45:07 - 00:00:50:03 Karama I can't wait to share this one with you. But first, let's pay some bills. 00:00:50:03 - 00:01:02:16 Karama Now, I first found Wynton over on Tik-tok because he's got this incredible channel where he regularly looks at litigation that's happening in entertainment and like breaks it down in layman's terms for the rest of us. 00:01:02:17 - 00:01:07:10 Karama Yates now has a thriving practice, as get this, a social media lawyer. 00:01:07:09 - 00:01:10:20 Karama He's representing a lot of people out there doing exactly what we do. 00:01:10:20 - 00:01:14:17 Karama So up next, my chat with entertainment lawyer Winton Yates. 00:01:14:17 - 00:01:24:19 Wynton right before we started this podcast, something new kind of clicked. My name is Wynton, and I'm named after the jazz artists Wynton Marsalis. 00:01:24:19 - 00:01:25:24 Karama Wynton Marsalis Oh wow! 00:01:26:01 - 00:01:48:05 Wynton So I didn't even just kind of collect that. Like entertainment Arts has been me since I was born because I was born with, you know, an entertainer's name. But then after that, you know, growing up at the age of two, my siblings and I started doing commercials and catalog shoots and movies and all that kind of stuff. I really loved that growing up. 00:01:48:05 - 00:01:59:09 Wynton And then my best friends and I were doing photography and shooting short films and all kinds of stuff. And then when I did, you know, undergrad, I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia. 00:01:59:15 - 00:02:02:04 Karama Oh, okay. So yes, you were in the Mecca. 00:02:02:06 - 00:02:20:07 Wynton Yeah. So we were we were all over the place, just, you know, sneak it into concerts and shoot and concert photography and short films and all kinds of stuff. And then after, you know, after high school ended up going to undergrad at Georgia Southern. And then while I was there, I actually thought I was going to grow up to be a large animal vet. 00:02:20:07 - 00:02:23:01 Wynton I really wanted to be like the black Steve Irwin. 00:02:23:03 - 00:02:24:13 Karama Oh my God. 00:02:24:18 - 00:02:55:20 Wynton But I couldn't pass chemistry. So I actually ended up in the communications department, and the staff over there fell in love with me and they just like handed me a camera and they were like, No, no, no, this is what you're going to do. So I went through that program and then came out and ended up being a television news reporter for several years until, you know, my most recent contract a few years ago came up and I was like, okay, I think it's time for me to go to law school because I always wanted to advocate for my friends who were all 00:02:55:20 - 00:02:56:11 Wynton creators. 00:02:56:11 - 00:03:12:11 Wynton In some respect. I just didn't know how I wanted to do that. And then while I was a television news reporter, I actually met an entertainment attorney and it clicked and I was like, That's what I've been looking for. And then that's kind of how I ended up in that path. 00:03:12:11 - 00:03:30:07 Karama But you also have carried over some of that acting and that entertainment and personality from all the media stuff that you've done, because honestly, you're probably the most media ready lawyer I've ever met, and I'm here for the tie 00:03:30:07 - 00:03:31:08 Karama pin 00:03:31:12 - 00:03:52:06 Wynton Oh, my lapel pins? Thanks. Yes. Yes. I love my lapel pins. When I meet other attorneys, they all they're very buttoned up and put together. And I'm like, no, I have like mandalorian pens and like Bob Burgers pens. And it's always a very good opener. It makes it softens people. When you meet them, especially if you have the title of an attorney. 00:03:52:08 - 00:04:21:04 Wynton Mm hmm. Which I work very hard. Not for that. Not to be my whole personality. Like, Oh, I'm an attorney. So it's a really good way to, like, soften people and have a good entry point because arts and entertainment and TV and movies is something that we all share. Mm hmm. We may not all like the same things, but we all like something, whether it's music, TV, movies, there's some kind of arts and entertainment that we enjoy. 00:04:21:06 - 00:04:36:21 Wynton So lapel pins is a really easy way for me to kind of figure out who likes what. And it's fun. Like, I meet some attorneys who you would think are not Star Wars fans at all, and they'll see my pain and be like, Is that is that passive bizarre? 00:04:36:23 - 00:04:39:13 Karama Oh, that's right. This is the way. 00:04:39:17 - 00:04:44:18 Wynton And then the whole conversation shifts and it's it's fantastic. It's great. 00:04:44:20 - 00:05:10:21 Karama That is that is amazing. And also, like you said, if somebody in a because most people, if they're finding themselves in court, are probably stressed. So no matter what it is, you're not doing like murder trials. But still it can be stressful situations. So definitely there is definitely a way to. It's an icebreaker. Yes. So one of the things that actually you introduced me to because I didn't know this was that social media law is a thing. 00:05:10:23 - 00:05:18:20 Karama Yeah. So can you explain a little bit about that concept? And like, can some of these TikTok dancers do? Like what? 00:05:18:22 - 00:05:49:10 Wynton What can they do? Yeah, actually, specifically with TikTok dances, Tik Tok is actually at the forefront when it comes to copyright and dancing. So we could talk about that in a minute. But like so social media law really falls under the umbrella of just like the broad title of entertainment law. It's such a broad title because it covers everything contract negotiations, brand deals, intellectual property, which is copyright, trademark patents. 00:05:49:16 - 00:06:29:12 Wynton We're talking about artificial intelligence, which is like this new space that we now have to figure out how we're talking about licensing, whether it's movie licensing is trademark licenses, copyright licenses, music licenses. It covers such like a wide swath of things. But when we're talking about social media and social media influencers, they have specific needs that attorneys that aren't necessarily intellectual property attorneys, they're entertainment attorneys like myself are now figuring out that, okay, these social media influencers are not just, you know, doing dances on Tik Tok and making YouTube videos and all this kind of stuff. 00:06:29:12 - 00:06:32:20 Wynton This is their livelihood. And they're making users correct. 00:06:32:24 - 00:06:36:03 Karama They're writing, they're directing, they're creating. 00:06:36:03 - 00:07:04:19 Wynton Exactly. And then they're also having to deal with contracts and negotiating with brands for brand deals. And they're also having having to protect their copyright and their trademark. So they have to keep their brand protected and they have to deal with licensing and all that stuff. So it is entertainment law, but it is really focused on the needs of social media influencers. 00:07:04:19 - 00:07:12:00 Karama are you on retainer with any of these TikTok creatives or can you not share your I guess. 00:07:12:02 - 00:07:19:15 Wynton I can'

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