Then When

Then When Podcast
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We all have a list of things we’ve been meaning to do, changes we’ve been wanting to make, and versions of ourselves we’ve been waiting to become. We tell ourselves the time isn't right—but if not now, then when? Stop waiting for "someday." Start finding your "Then When." Then When is a podcast dedicated to the pivotal moments that change everything. This show explores the bridge between being stuck and taking the leap.

  1. -4 j

    E19 - Then When? We Are Building From Within

    Building Your Best Life (Within the One You Already Have) Days become months. Months become years. And then one day you blink and think - wait, when did I stop steering this thing? This week Serina and Mary get into the real, unglamorous, deeply relatable work of taking steps toward your Then When moments, big or small, within the life you're already living. No retreats required. Just you, your ideas that won't leave you alone, and maybe a key blank from the hardware store. 🗝️ They talk tools, accountability, how to measure your own success without crushing yourself, and why "curious, not judgmental" (Ted Lasso forever) might be the most useful lens you've got. Plus: dancing to your 15-year-old self's playlist, why Duo the Owl needs to stop shaming people, and a mystery project Mary is keeping close to the chest... for now. 👀 In this episode: 🎙️ 🏗️ How do you build toward your Then When within the life you already have?🔁 Constant reassessment vs. long-term planning — Serina's actually philosophy🌿 Getting back to your habits and routines first, so you can actually think clearly🤝 The power of accountability and why trust is non-negotiable for it to work📏 Setting your own bar: whose standard of measurement are you actually using?🏆 Celebrating the wins you've already had toward a goal🗝️ Try It On - Serina's totem idea: a key blank for your future home, a physical reminder of what you're building✉️ Try It On - Mary's letter from your future self: write it, then read it aloud (Serina will challenge you to record it too)🗺️ Tourist in your own town: start close before you go far📓 The food passport Serina made by hand and how you can make your own for anything🌍 Atlas Obscura for finding the weird, wacky, and wonderful near you👩‍🎨 Shoutout to Nikki at The Peach Parlor in ATL (the hair. the HAIR.)Try It On This Week 🌟 Pick ONE: Get a key blank (or another small totem) for a goal you keep circling. Or write a letter from your future self to yourself now — then read it out loud. And if you want to share your letter in the Discord? Serina's setting up a space for that. Bold hearts welcome. 💛 Links & Resources 🔗 The Peach Parlor ATL: https://thepeachparloratl.glossgenius.com/Atlas Obscura find the weird and wonderful near you: atlasobscura.comFinch: the self-care pet app Serina loves: finchcare.comThen When Podcast: www.thenwhenpodcast.comDiscord: share your future-self letter, your totem, or your Then When: discord.com/invite/UYjfTPSdcQThis podcast is for general informational and entertainment purposes only. Until When! 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #BuildYourLife #TryItOn #Accountability #FutureSelf #PersonalGrowth #TouristInYourTownown #MeasureYourSuccess #AtlasObscura #CuriousNotJudgmental

    45 min

  2. 25 juin

    E18 - Then When? Can We Get Inclusive - with Nick

    Let's Get Inclusive with Nick Lucatino This week, Serina and Mary welcome a very special guest into the Then When chaos: Nick Lucatino, founder of Inclusive Pathways Project and Mary's friend-turned-collaborator since the day they nearly got hit by a car together. Nick is a behavior analyst who's spent his career thinking outside the box about something most of us never talk about out loud: that moment of "wait, what do I actually want to do with my life?" — whether you're 17 and graduating high school or 47 and wondering how you ended up here. His work with Inclusive Pathways helps young people with disabilities navigate the leap into adulthood, find their passions, and build the kind of independence that too often gets left out of the conversation. And on top of that, he built Ask What Do You Mean — a free, genuinely brilliant communication tool born from a very real, very relatable problem: getting a text and having absolutely no idea what to say back. But the heart of this episode is Nick's own then-when: after feeling stuck in a rut, he followed his gut, applied to PhD programs, and is now days from a cross-country move to Wisconsin choosing a fresh start, a new identity (cheese hats may be involved 🧀), and the kind of leap that doesn't feel less scary just because it's the right one. Also featured: a passionate shirt design debate, the great QR-code controversy of 2026, and Mary getting "clocked" as a lavender queen. In this episode: 🤝 How Mary and Nick met — nearly getting hit by a car in a conference parking lot, bonded over "slamming" brown shoes🧠 Inclusive Pathways: helping young people with disabilities discover their passions and navigate adulthood💡 Nick's origin story — watching students hit the same "what do I even want to do" wall, over and over🎯 The hobby-and-leisure quiz that always, somehow, recommends geocaching📱 Ask What Do You Mean (askwdym.com) — Nick's free communication app that decodes confusing texts, emails, and "what does this even mean?" moments🎓 Nick's then-when: applying to PhD programs and following the feeling of "this is the moment"🌱 Fresh starts, new versions of yourself, and the people who still remember every version you've ever beenShow Links! Inclusive Pathways Project: https://www.inclusivepathwaysproject.com/Ask What Do You Mean: askwdym.com : free, open-source tool for decoding confusing texts and messagesThen When Podcast website: www.thenwhenpodcast.comJoin the Discord — drop your then-when, your hot takes on QR-code merch, or your geocaching alias: discord.com/invite/UYjfTPSdcQFind us on the socials @thenwhenpodcastListen on all major podcast platformsThis podcast is for general informational and entertainment purposes only. Until When! 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #FollowYourGut #InclusivePathways #AskWhatDoYouMean #TrustTheProcess #FreshStart #CommunicationMatters #TryItOn #DisabilityAdvocacy #NewBeginnings #LifeTransitions #PersonalGrowth

    46 min

  3. 17 juin

    E17 - Then When? Do You Venture Out

    Venture Out! 🌟✨ We're back, we missed you, and we have stories. After a little time apart — some solo adventures, some found time, some plates spinning, some "life be lifing" — Serina and Mary are back in the pod and ready to catch up with the Then When community. This episode has a different kind of energy to it: quieter, more reflective, a little bit like that deep exhale after a really full stretch of time. And honestly? It's exactly what we needed. This week, Serina shares what it felt like to wander eight miles alone through the cobblestone streets of Lisbon, Portugal, phone dying, language barrier and all and discovers something unexpected: pure, untethered freedom. And Mary, facing a stretch of unscheduled "found time," does what any reasonable person would do takes her kayak out solo and floats in the clouds. 🚣 Together they get into the delicious question of what we call ordinary versus extraordinary and whether that line is as clear as we think. They also get into gratitude, noticing, painting on top of paintings, writing over the same three lines until your brain quiets down, and the way the ordinary things, when we actually look at them, have a way of slowing time. 🎨 Welcome back, dudes. You deserve today. In this episode: 🎙️ ✈️ Serina's solo day in Lisbon: eight miles on foot, a dying phone, the oldest bookstore in the world, and a lot of cobblestones🚣 Mary's "found time" moment: solo kayaking under cloudy skies and finally — finally — getting that kayak out of the garage🌿 Ordinary vs. extraordinary: where's the line, and does your beige wall get a vote?📓 Mary's overthinking hack: writing over the same three lines until your brain dumps everything out🎨 Serina's next Then When: painting on top of paintings on top of paintings🌲 Mary standing in front of her pine trees and realizing her "middle of nowhere" has become her somewhere🐾 Serina's dogs, who are also tangential thinkers. They sniff what they want to sniff.🎬 Amélie and the traveling gnome — Serina's all-time favorite film makes its Then When debut💬 Question to the community: What seemingly ordinary things enhance your daily life?Links & Resources 🔗 ☕ Copenhagen Coffee Lab (Lisbon, Portugal): copenhagencoffeelab.com🎬 Amélie (2001) — Available on most streaming platforms🌐 Then When website: www.thenwhenpodcast.com💬 Join the Discord — drop your answer to this week's question: what ordinary thing enhances your daily life? Share your photos under #noticings: discord.com/invite/UYjfTPSdcQ📱 Find us on TikTok & socials @thenwhenpodcast🎙️ Listen on all major podcast platforms — and share this one with someone who needs permission to go it alone 💛Until When! 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #GoItAlone #FindYourExtraordinary #Noticing #Gratitude #SoloAdventure #Lisbon #Portugal #FoundTime #TryItOn #MindfulLiving #Perseverate #OrdinaryMagic ✨🚣🎨💛

    44 min

  4. 3 juin

    E16 - Then When? To Be Vulnerable - with Tennette

    Then When to Get Vulnerable: Tennette's Story 🌟🎤 What if the moment that changed everything started with a stranger on a park bench? This week, Serina and Mary welcome a very special guest: Tennette Correia — storyteller, mother, connector, and the woman Mary met while dancing in line at a book event in Brooklyn (classic Mary, truly). Tennette came into this episode describing herself as someone who hides behind baseball caps and hates being center of attention. And then she proceeded to be one of the most luminous, warm, and deeply human guests we've ever had on. 💛 Tennette shares the winding, wonderful path that led her from talking strangers' ears off in grocery stores post-COVID to standing in front of 40 people at a library storytelling event, delivering one of the most vulnerable and powerful stories you'll hear.✨ This one is about vulnerability, allyship, finding your light, and understanding that your story — your specific, unrepeatable story — is a gift you're giving to someone else who needs it. Shout Out Links! 🔗 📖 Dr. Lisa Miller — The Awakened Brain: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-awakened-brain-the-new-science-of-spirituality-and-our-quest-for-an-inspired-life-lisa-miller/650c01603ea03da1?ean=9781984855626&next=t&aid=121698&listref=show-shout-outs🎭 The Moth — live storytelling shows, StorySLAMs, podcast, and workshops: themoth.org🌱 Playful Campus (Dawn's organization) — play for well-being: https://www.playfulcampus.com/ Then When Links! ⏳ 🌐 Then When website: thenwhenpodcast.com💬 Join the Discord — share YOUR vulnerability, your then-when, or your garden photos (Tennette, we're waiting 🌸): https://discord.com/invite/UYjfTPSdcQ📱 Find us on TikTok & socials @thenwhenpod🎙️ Listen on all major podcast platforms — and send this one to someone who needs permission to tell their story 💛This podcast is for general informational and entertainment purposes only. We'll see you in the then — so we can get to the when. 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #Vulnerability #Storytelling #FindYourLight #TheMoth #TryItOn #HumanConnection #ShareYourStory #YouAreEnough #EarthlyAngels #PersonalGrowth #BeVulnerable #Resilience #CommunityOverEverything 🌟🎤🌸💛

    43 min

  5. 27 mai

    E15 - Then When? Will I Find My Voice?

    Find Your Voice (And Actually Use It) 🎤✨ Seventy-five percent of people worldwide are afraid of public speaking. SEVENTY-FIVE. Which means chances are good that you, reading this right now, have felt that knot-in-the-stomach, voice-going-wobbly, heart-beating-out-of-your-chest feeling before stepping up to say something in front of other people. Yeah. Us too. This one's for you. This week Serina and Mary are getting into the art of finding your voice — whether that's standing at a podium, making a toast at a wedding, sharing something you care deeply about with one person, or just showing up as your full, unapologetically nerdy, wonderfully weird self in the rooms you're already in. 🦋 Because here's the thing nobody tells you: the nervousness doesn't mean you're not ready. It might actually mean you care. And accepting it — just letting it be there while you show up anyway — is the whole move. Try it on. Also in this episode: destination weddings in Mexico, a work trip to Portugal, the Taco Bell paint palette of Serina's first home 🌮, Lego flowers progress report 🌸, speed puzzling as a life philosophy, and the world's most wholesome story involving an exchange student, a chipboard puzzle, and Beauty and the Beast. In this episode: 🎙️ 🎤 Public speaking: 75% of people fear it — so why does it feel so lonely when you do?🧠 Imposter syndrome, waiting to be "ready," and the third culprit: shrinking yourself for others🤍 When someone accepts a compliment gracefully — and why it's actually a skill worth practicing👏 The vocal coach moment at the wedding that gave Serina full-body goosebumps💬 "No one in here knows your script" — the most liberating thing you can hear mid-speech🌿 How your totally unrepeatable life experiences are actually your most powerful thing to share🧩 The speed puzzle origin story involving a Japanese exchange student, a chipboard puzzle, and a date to see Beauty and the Beast (it's precious, we promise)🌸 Lego flower bouquet update!🎵 Never the Same by Supreme Beings of Leisure — Serina's go-to for transitional moments🏕️ Mary's camp counselor training program: shoot your shot, one day a week💛 Finding the people who hold your weirdness and amplify your voice🧪 What it means to try on who you are — and let the confirmations come to youShow Notes and Shout Outs 🔗 🎵 "Never the Same" — Supreme Beings of Leisure: https://youtu.be/odhMJ_Mlo0o?si=vSUjfxtG1jNVzKOa🌐 Then When website: thenwhenpod.com💬 Join the Discord — share a moment you used your voice, a then-when update, or your hot take on speed puzzling: https://discord.com/invite/UYjfTPSdcQ📱 Find us on TikTok & socials @thenwhenpod🎙️ Listen on all major podcast platforms — share this one with someone who needs a little push to use their voice 💛We'll see you in the then — so we can get to the when. 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #FindYourVoice #PublicSpeaking #ImposterSyndrome #BeYourself #TryItOn #SpeakUp #PersonalGrowth #YouAreEnough #OwnYourWeird #NeverTheSame #VoiceYourTruth #ShowUp

    46 min

  6. 13 mai

    E14 - Then When? To Get Behind the Wheel!

    You know that thing you've been putting off since basically forever? Not because you can't do it — but because you told yourself a story about why you shouldn't, can't, or won't? Yeah. This one's for you. This week Serina and Mary are getting into the sneaky, shape-shifting world of learned history — those old narratives baked into us from past experiences that quietly run the show when we're not paying attention. We're talking about the backlog item that won't leave you alone (look at me, look at me 👀), the skills you already have but still don't trust yourself with, and the difference between "not ready" and "just scared." Spoiler: you're probably ready. Also on the docket: Serina is finally — finally — returning to re-learning driving a stick shift until it feels natural 🚗, Mary is wrangling vegetables and work projects with behavioral science, and someone in the conversation recently signed up to get certified in sound therapy (we are CHEERING 🎶). Big moves happening over here, people. The invitation this episode? Try it on. What's the story you keep telling yourself that you're finally ready to put down? Let's walk through it together. 💛 In this episode: 🎙️ 📖 The stories we tell ourselves and how our learned history quietly runs the show🚗 Serina's manual transmission saga — a tale of a terrifying intersection, a kind stranger, and unfinished business🧠 Unhooking from "I'm not good enough or ready enough" — Mary gets real about the story that holds her back🎶 Big news: Serina signed up to pursue her sound therapy certification (parasympathetic nervous system girlie, incoming)💌 Why eulogizing people AFTER they're gone is a tragedy — and how to give your flowers NOW📊 The passion PowerPoint trend and why it's secretly one of the best antidotes to imposter syndrome🦎 Lizard energy makes a return — this time for running up hills, apparently🏃 Peach Tree Road Race, Bolder Boulder, Cooper River Run, and the wisdom of the lamppost method🥦 Brussels sprouts discourse (boiled baby cabbage: threat or menace?)🎯 Doing the hard thing first, the fun thing second: behavioral momentum in real life💬 Call to the community: what story are you ready to unhook from?Links & Resources 🔗 🌐 Then When website: https://www.thenwhenpodcast.com/💬 Join the Discord — drop your story, your then-when, or your hot take on Brussels sprouts: https://discord.com/invite/UYjfTPSdcQ📱 Find us on TikTok & socials @thenwhenpod🎙️ Listen on all major podcast platforms — and share this episode with someone who needs to hear it 💛We'll see you in the then — so we can get to the when. 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #StoriesWeTellOurselves #UnhookYourself #LearnedHistory #SoundTherapy #PersonalGrowth #SelfTalk #MindsetShift #TryItOn #BreathWork #DoItScared #GiveYourFlowers #ManualTransmission #SmallSteps 🧠🚗🎶💛

    53 min

  7. 6 mai

    E13 - Then When? To Hold Your Ground

    Hold Your Ground (And Maybe Pull Some Weeds While You're At It) 🌿🔥 You know that feeling when someone crosses a line and your eyes start boiling? Yeah. We've been there. This week Serina and Mary get into the real, sometimes messy work of holding your boundaries — not just setting them and hoping for the best, but actually defending them in the moment, when it counts, when it's hard, and when a random text from your green-thumb bestie shows up exactly when you need it. ✨ Because here's the thing: your boundaries don't just get set once. They get tested. Constantly. And how you respond in those moments? That's where the growth is. That's the Then When. We also get into noticing your patterns (even in the laundry pile 🧺), redirecting hot energy into something useful (like tearing out dead shrubs and planning a raised garden 🌱), and why sometimes the best thing you can do is say, "I'm not making a decision right now because I'm not calm enough." That's not weakness, people. That's wisdom. P lus: grandmothers who did Jäger shots at 10am, sweet "no soap radio" memories, a surprise string quartet concert for a very lucky nephew 🎻, and a great-great-grandma who decided that if she couldn't have her daily whiskey, she was done. At 102. On her birthday. We stan a woman who holds the boundary. In this episode: 🎙️ 🔥 Why your boundaries will always get challenged — and what to do when they do🦎 Serina is a lizard (you'll have to listen to understand, but also: take up your space)🧠 The "molting stage" — shedding the hard shell and surviving the tender meatsies phase🛑 The power of pausing: "I'm not making a decision right now"🌿 How redirecting fierce energy into a then-when project can be genuinely healing👀 Body scans, pattern-noticing, and finishing the laundry all the way (Mary's growth arc 👏)🔬 Dr. Lisa Miller: when spirituality meets science (spoiler: Mary wants her on the pod)🎻 Knights of Tears — a live string quartet tribute to Hollow Knight & Silksong that Serina surprised her nephew with (in a cathedral, no less — absolutely breathtaking)😂 Two short jokes and one long joke. You've been warned.🥃 Great-grandma stories, 102-year-old boundary queens, and Jäger shots with grandma at 10am🎵 Sweet Caroline in the kitchen, Neil Diamond, Taylor Swift, and how someone's energy lives on in a song Links & Resources 🔗 🎻 Knights of Tears — string quartet tribute to Hollow Knight & Silksong: knightsoftears.com🌐 Then When website: thenwhenpodcast.com💬 Join the Discord — tell us YOUR then-when moment, your calling card of joy, or your best joke: thenwhenpod.com/discord We'll see you in the then — so we can get to the when. 🤍 #ThenWhen #ThenWhenPodcast #IfNotNowThenWhen #SomeDayIsToday #DoItNow #Boundaries #PersonalGrowth #NotTakingYourselfSoSeriously #HoldYourGround #MindsetShift #EnergyRedirect #SelfCare #CoreMemories #GrandmaWisdom #HollowKnight #KnightsOfTears #CottageIndustries 🎻🌿🔥🦎💛

    49 min

  8. 29 avr.

    E12 - Then When? Can I Have Your Attention, Please?

    What happens when three ladies, a Lego set, and a two-year plan to play hockey all end up in the same recording session? This episode. 🏒 We welcomed the one and only Lisa Oestreicher to the podcast this week — Serina's longtime friend, certified Lisapedia, queen of handmade cookie cutters, and all-around creative force of nature. (Spoiler: she is not just one thing. She is, in her own words, a bunch of goblins in a trench coat — and honestly? Aren't we all. 🫂) We dove deep into the art of attention — how we manage it, lose it, fill it back up, and use it to stay connected with the people we love. Oh, and Serina tried to build a Lego set while recording. Live. With guests. Bold choice. Focus, focus, LET'S GO SKATE! 🛼😂 A huge shoutout to the Marietta History Museum 🏛️ — where Lisa works her magic as museum assistant, resident numbers whiz, and the creative brain behind some seriously awesome Big Chicken merch. 🐔 If you've never heard of the Big Chicken — Marietta's most iconic landmark and the OG pre-MapQuest GPS — well, now you have. Museum Nerd shirts, buttons, and stickers available in-store. Link in show notes. Yes, really. In this episode: 🧩 Serina attempts to build a Lego set mid-episode while holding a full conversation — a masterclass in multitasking OR chaos, depending on who you ask🎨 Lisa's creative life: handmade cookie cutters, museum merch, designing Big Chicken-themed goods, and being the human encyclopedia her husband aptly named "Lisapedia"🏛️ A love letter to the Marietta History Museum and the joy of local art, local history, and Museum Nerd merch (you need the shirt, trust us)🧠 How each of us finds our "attention sweet spot" — doodling, timers, fidget rocks, neo soul playlists, and more📱 Marco Polo app — the unofficial sponsor of Serina and Lisa's friendship, and honestly? It should be an official one. (Marco Polo, call us. Link in show notes 😂)🏒 Lisa's THEN WHEN: a two-year plan to play hockey at 47 — starting from scratch, building endurance, and doing it anyway. We are obsessed.💪 Breaking goals into consumable steps, celebrating small wins, and why "showing up IS the badass move"🪞 The quiet power of mirroring — how watching someone else pursue their goal lights a fire under the rest of us (Lisa's workout Marco Polos have Serina AND her mom moving more 🥹)💬 On receiving compliments gracefully — just say thank you. That's it. That's the whole thing.👩‍👧 Parenting with your whole heart, modeling boldness for your kids, and cheering on the feral little creative creatures they are 🎙️ We want to hear from YOU. Do you have a THEN WHEN you're working toward — big, small, or somewhere in between? Are you your own version of Bambi on the ice, just showing up anyway? 🥺🏒 Come tell us about it in our Discord community! Drop your goals, your check-ins, your sweaty progress pics — we're here for ALL of it. Serina and Mary will be cheering you on. 👏 We'll see you in the then — so we can get to the when. 💫 Then When Links Website: https://www.thenwhenpodcast.com/ #ThenWhenPodcast #KindnessMatters #SmallActsBigImpact #PayAttention #MariettaHistoryMuseum #BigChicken #MuseumNerd #AttentionIsAGift #CommunityOverEverything #GoalsAndGoblins 🐔🏒🎨🧩

    50 min
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We all have a list of things we’ve been meaning to do, changes we’ve been wanting to make, and versions of ourselves we’ve been waiting to become. We tell ourselves the time isn't right—but if not now, then when? Stop waiting for "someday." Start finding your "Then When." Then When is a podcast dedicated to the pivotal moments that change everything. This show explores the bridge between being stuck and taking the leap.

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