37 episodes

"Therapists, they're just like us!" Two friends and psychologists, Molly and Liza, discuss how they use Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) skills to navigate relationships with themselves and others. In each episode, you will learn about DBT skills that will help you increase mindfulness, better regulate emotions, tolerate distress, and enhance communication in relationships.

​If you'd like to support our work, you can donate any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. Thank you for your contribution!

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Therapists In The Wild Molly and Liza

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"Therapists, they're just like us!" Two friends and psychologists, Molly and Liza, discuss how they use Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) skills to navigate relationships with themselves and others. In each episode, you will learn about DBT skills that will help you increase mindfulness, better regulate emotions, tolerate distress, and enhance communication in relationships.

​If you'd like to support our work, you can donate any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. Thank you for your contribution!

Insta/FB @TherapistsInTheWild and Twitter @TherapistsWild.

    35. Ending Dialectically

    35. Ending Dialectically

    In our last episode of the Therapists in the Wild podcast, we're coming full circle: dialectics was the topic of our first ever episode, and now we're wrapping it up two years later by letting our listeners in on how we have used a dialectical frame to face this ending head on. We review the DBT skills we used to lean into our discomfort, to have difficult conversations that have deepened our relationship, and ultimately, to radically accept this change in a way that felt true to ourselves, our friendship, and, we hope, to our listeners. We try, more so than ever, to practice radical genuineness and vulnerability in this emotion-filled episode. We are more grateful to you, our listeners, than we can possibly express. We hope that you will continue to share the podcast, stay subscribed, and follow us on social media to stay involved in our future projects. 

    Until we meet again: stay skillful, everyone. 

    *You can find us on Instagram and Facebook @TherapistsInTheWild, and Twitter @TherapistsWild. If you'd like to support TITW, we would be very grateful for donations of any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. If a donation is not possible at this time, you can still support our work by leaving a rating and review. Thank you!

    • 49 min
    Re-Release: How To Stop Fighting Reality with Radical Acceptance

    Re-Release: How To Stop Fighting Reality with Radical Acceptance

    This month's episode is a re-release of an episode introducing one of our favorite DBT skills: Radical Acceptance (Episode 23). We hope you enjoy and look forward to being back next month for the final episode of Season 2! 

    *You can find us on Instagram and Facebook @TherapistsInTheWild, and Twitter @TherapistsWild. If you'd like to support TITW, we would be very grateful for donations of any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. If a donation is not possible at this time, you can still support our work by leaving a rating and review. Thank you!

    • 51 min
    34. DBT Skills for Burnout

    34. DBT Skills for Burnout

    "Burnout" has become a buzzword since the start of the pandemic, for good reason. Many of us are feeling burnt out, in many areas of life, and could benefit from using DBT skills to cope. 

    In this episode, Molly and Liza start by defining burnout (i.e. chronic depletion, apathy, a feeling of ineffectiveness no matter how hard you work). We then identify factors that typically lead to burnout, like feeling that your day-to-day lacks meaning or that you lack control over your daily decisions. We explain how to tell the difference between burnout, depression, and stress, and why these distinctions matter. 

    We respond to an email from a listener who wants to know how seriously to take feelings of burnout, and when to consider making a change. Pulling from Emily and Amelia Nagoski's work, we describe the science behind what burnout does to our bodies and how we can effectively complete the body's stress response cycle. We outline various DBT skills to apply both during extreme moments of burnout (i.e. intense exercise, mindfulness, urge surfing, self-validation, vacation), and when making larger life decisions in response to burnout (i.e. taking an inventory using mindfulness skills, problem-solving, and focusing on values). We hope you enjoy! 

    We will be taking next month off and, in the meantime, will be re-releasing an old episode on March 1. We look forward to being back on April 1 for our final episode of the season! 

    *Check out our website at therapistsinthewild.com. And follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TherapistsInTheWild, and Twitter @TherapistsWild. If you'd like to support TITW, we would be very grateful for donations of any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. If a donation is not possible at this time, you can still support our work by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Thank you!

    • 57 min
    33. Vulnerability in the New Year

    33. Vulnerability in the New Year

    Happy New Year, TITW listeners! As we head into the new year, we're reflecting on the values we want to prioritize and how we can commit to moving toward those values. Since deepening relationships and creating new ones has been on our minds lately, we decided to do an episode on vulnerability. Vulnerability can be defined as "the practice of taking emotional risks even when the outcome is uncertain." We start out by discussing certain forms of anxiety that interfere with opening up even to trusted people in our lives. We then explore what we miss out on when we act on this anxiety (i.e. missing opportunities for closer relationships, as well as feedback, support, and validation). We end by suggesting a few DBT and other skills to use in the moment when anxiety is holding you back from being vulnerable with someone you trust.

    In the spirit of vulnerability, we share some news about the future of the podcast. If you would like to send feedback/suggestions about what you'd like to see from us in the future, please email us at therapistsinthewild@gmail.com. 

    If you'd like to support TITW, we would be very grateful for donations of any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. If a donation is not possible at this time, you can still support our work by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Thank you!

    *Check out our website at therapistsinthewild.com. And follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TherapistsInTheWild,  and Twitter @TherapistsWild.

    • 52 min
    32. Practicing Self-Compassion

    32. Practicing Self-Compassion

    This month on TITW, we're practicing self-compassion. Liza and Molly have been studying the work of Dr. Kristin Neff, a psychologist and researcher who breaks down the practice of self-compassion into concrete steps. We've noticed a lot of overlap between Dr. Neff's work and DBT skills, and we discuss the similarities in this episode. 

    We start by defining self-compassion and how it's all about being a friend to yourself. We then get into the barriers of practicing self-compassion (i.e. the erroneous belief that beating ourselves up is the only path toward self-improvement), and point out how taking a more dialectical approach while being kind to ourselves actually leads to more effective problem-solving and learning from mistakes. Molly and Liza each share personal examples of times they have both practiced self-compassion, and, more often, times they have beat themselves up to the point of blocking effective action. We discuss the benefits of practicing self-compassion, and provide a step-by-step approach to the practice, using DBT skills including Mindfulness of Current Emotion, Radical Acceptance, Nonjudgmental and Dialectical Thinking, and good old Opposite Action. We hope you enjoy! 

    If you'd like to support TITW, we would be very grateful for donations of any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. If a donation is not possible at this time, you can still support our work by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Thank you!

    *Check out our website at therapistsinthewild.com. And follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TherapistsInTheWild,  and Twitter @TherapistsWild.

    • 45 min
    31. Gaining Distance from Thoughts with Cognitive Defusion

    31. Gaining Distance from Thoughts with Cognitive Defusion

    This month on TITW, Molly teaches Liza and our listeners concepts from Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), another "third wave" cognitive behavioral treatment that both overlaps with and differs from DBT. 

    Molly has been practicing ACT at her therapy practice, and Liza... needs to brush up on her skills! First, Molly walks us through the six core processes of ACT, including "Cognitive Defusion," which is the process of watching thoughts come and go rather than getting caught up or buying into them. In some ways, this episode is a deep dive on the "Mindfulness of Current Thoughts" skill from the DBT Distress Tolerance module. We discuss how most humans experience unwanted automatic thoughts, and how we those of us with "stickier" brains can benefit from relating differently to such thoughts. We teach several defusion strategies, and also discuss how to use the DBT skill of "Check the Facts" to increase willingness to use these techniques. We wrap up with a coaching session! 

    Here are some books to help you learn more about ACT: 

    1) Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life 

    2) The Happiness Trap

    3) ACT Made Simple: An Easy-to-Read Primer on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

    If you'd like to support TITW, we would be very grateful for donations of any amount you feel comfortable via Venmo @MollyStDenis. If a donation is not possible at this time, you can still support our work by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Thank you!

    *Check out our website at therapistsinthewild.com. And follow us on Instagram and Facebook @TherapistsInTheWild,  and Twitter @TherapistsWild.

    • 58 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
116 Ratings

116 Ratings

Suzyxc1423 ,

Great podcast

I’m not a huge podcast person but I’ve really benefitted from this one! Definitely recommend.

havbro ,

So helpful and relatable

Just found this podcast while looking to understand more about DBT and I’m so happy I landed here! Molly and Liza have great rapport, give helpful examples, and explain the skills clearly.

raulagrait ,

Amazing resource, incredibly personable

Molly and Liza do an amazing job at not just explaining DBT skills, but also walking through numerous very relatable examples from their own lives. It thus manages to be helpful not just in very emotionally unregulated times, but also through life’s smaller ups and downs. My favorite part is when they do coaching on each other on how to apply DBT skills to various problems and thought patterns they’ve recently gone through. It manages to feel very authentic and down to earth, as if you had just called a friend for sage advice.

I listened to this podcast while I was in a waiting list for a DBT skills group, and found it SO helpful to have learned from them by listening before doing a deeper dive by participating in group and doing the weekly DBT homework. They also bring in amazing guests who explain in deeper detail some of the underlying tenets of DBT and topics.

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