✅ Join our Thrive Tribe! https://thrivetoday.com/ Learn more about our Thrive Today Membership: https://thrivetoday.com/pages/membership In this episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, Natalie Born sits down with pastor, leadership advisor, speaker, and author Vince Thomas Jr. to discuss his new book, The Art of Resilience. Vince shares the personal experiences and biblical lessons that shaped the book, offering practical wisdom on developing character, overcoming comparison, stewarding resources, asking for help, and growing stronger through life's challenges. Whether you're leading a team, navigating a difficult season, or simply pursuing personal growth, this conversation will encourage you to build resilience one faithful step at a time. [00:00 – 06:48] The Story Behind The Art of Resilience Vince shares his family, ministry, and leadership journey How years of personal journaling became the foundation for the book Why resilience is built through dependence on God rather than personal strength [06:49 – 12:46] Character Over Success Why character matters more than charisma or accomplishments Leadership as a marathon, not a sprint The importance of remaining faithful when no one is watching [12:47 – 16:56] Escaping the Comparison Trap The dangers of measuring your life against others Paul's "thorn in the flesh" and learning dependence on God Staying humble by remembering who deserves the credit for every success [16:57 – 22:55] Stewarding Finances & Small Decisions Biblical principles for managing resources wisely Why small financial habits create long-term impact The "small leaks" that quietly steal from our future [22:56 – 28:46] Growing 1% Every Day The power of consistent, incremental growth Why asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness Building personal dashboards for spiritual, emotional, relational, and financial health Healing from past pain so you don't repeat unhealthy patterns [28:47 – End] Final Encouragement How personal healing impacts leadership Where to connect with Vince and learn more about The Art of Resilience Natalie's encouragement to pursue intentional daily growth Quotes "The moment we stop growing, we start stagnating." - Vince Thomas Jr. "What you don't heal from will eventually show up in how you lead." - Vince Thomas Jr. "Character will always speak louder than your reputation." - Vince Thomas Jr. About the Guest: Vince Thomas Jr. Vince Thomas Jr. is the Founder and Lead Pastor of The Outlet Community Church in Atlanta, Georgia. He also serves as the Director of Leadership Development and Adjunct Professor of Urban Leadership at Oglethorpe University, where he equips leaders in faith, leadership, and community impact. He is the author of The Art of Resilience and holds a Master of Arts in Leadership Studies and a Bachelor of Arts in Religious Studies from Beulah Heights University. Vince and his wife, Ashley, have two children, Asher and Chloe, and call metro Atlanta home. Guest Links Website: VinceThomasJr.com Book: The Art of Resilience Church: TheOutlet.cc Thrive Today: ThriveToday.com Loved this episode of the Thrive Today Podcast? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review to help more women grow in leadership, faith, and purpose. Join the Thrive community for leadership resources, coaching, and conversations designed to help you thrive in every season.