Thriving Outside the Box

Kimberly Grocher

Thriving Outside The Box is a podcast that sheds light on the stories of leaders and entrepreneurs across industries who dared to create and walk their own path in their careers, lives and businesses and provide inspiration for how listeners can do the same. Dr. Kimberly Grocher, the host, also provides listeners with insights on how to thrive mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually while living a life outside of the box.

  1. Jul 22

    Season 2, EP9: Wealth & Well-Being: The Financial Conversation Women Entrepreneurs Are Missing

    Most women entrepreneurs are not having the full financial conversation. In this special co-hosted episode of Thriving Outside the Box, Dr. Kim is joined by Alex Davis, CPA, CFP® — known as The Wealth Strategist — for an honest conversation about the patterns they keep seeing in their work with women business owners: the numbers being avoided, the money stories running the show, the emotional weight quietly shaping every financial decision. Together they unpack why wealth is a wellness issue, why women entrepreneurs cannot design what is next without knowing their financial picture, and how the intersection of money and well-being drives every choice you make in your business — whether you are aware of it or not. They also share the story behind Wealth, Water & Wellness — the immersive experience they are co-facilitating in Clearwater Beach, FL on August 21-22, 2026 — and why they built it specifically for the accomplished woman who has done the outer work and is quietly ready to do the inner one.   Guest Bio Alex Davis is a CPA, CFP®, and the founder of AGA Tax & Consulting Services. Known as The Wealth Strategist, Alex helps women entrepreneurs, high-earning professionals, and business owners see their full financial picture with clarity and confidence — combining technical expertise with the emotional intelligence to meet clients where they actually are. She is the co-facilitator of Wealth, Water & Wellness alongside Dr. Kim.   Guest Links AGA Tax & Consulting Services Instagram: @thewealthstrategist_alex Wealth, Water & Wellness    Standing Credits Host: Dr. Kimberly Grocher PhD, MA, LCSW, ACC, RYT Music: Gregory Brooks, Jr. Sound Engineer: Hitz Muzic Group, LLC www.kimberlybondsgrocher.com  |  kimberly@verveandvision.com  | IG @drkimbgrocher

    Season 2, EP9: Wealth & Well-Being: The Financial Conversation Women Entrepreneurs Are Missing
  2. Jul 8

    Season 2, EP8 An Inner TRUCE: The Relationship That Changes Everything

    Sheryl Hatwood decided, at a specific moment in her life, to turn things around. What came next — the healing, the faith, the framework she built — is a masterclass in what it means to build a real relationship with yourself. In this episode, Dr. Kim talks with Sheryl — corporate leader, entrepreneur, wellness coach, author, producer, and founder of TRUCE Natural Living — for a testimony of what that inner work looks like when it is lived, not theorized. Sheryl shares how a history of trauma and abuse led her to that turning point, anchored by faith, education, and inspired by Iyanla Vanzant's writing. She walks us through the five pillars of TRUCE — Truth, Resilience, Understanding, Choice, and Elevate — and the framework that continues to shape her leadership, her wellness brand, and her life. Together, Dr. Kim and Sheryl explore why so much of what we are sold as self-care isn't self-care at all, why reinvention requires self-trust, and why self-love is the foundation every extraordinary life is built on. If you are designing a career, a business, or a life on your own terms, this conversation is a must-listen. Guest Bio Sheryl Hatwood MPA, B.Sc, MHFA is a corporate leader, entrepreneur, author, producer, and wellness coach dedicated to helping people live with purpose and authenticity. As the founder of TRUCE Natural Living and TRUCE by SH, she creates products and experiences that encourage individuals to embrace truth, self-care, and personal growth. Sheryl is also the first Black President in the 127-year history of The Manor Club of Pelham, where she championed community engagement, inclusion, and organizational excellence. Through her work in the community, her message inspires others to build themselves and one another, and to thrive beyond limitations. Guest Links TRUCE Natural Living TRUCE by SH Sheryl Hatwood Instagram & Facebook: @sherylhatwood, @trucebysh and @trucenaturalliving Credits Host: Dr. Kimberly Grocher PhD, MA, LCSW, ACC, RYT Music: Gregory Brooks, Jr. Sound Engineer: Hitz Muzic Group, LLC www.kimberlybondsgrocher.com  |  IG:  @drkimbgrocher

    Season 2, EP8 An Inner TRUCE: The Relationship That Changes Everything
  3. May 27

    Season 2, EP6: Driven by Story

    What happens when a career in film leads, unexpectedly, to a career in psychiatry? In this episode of Thriving Outside the Box, Dr. Kim sits down with Dr. Daniel Knoepflmacher — psychiatrist, educator, and host of the podcast On the Mind — for a conversation about the winding path that brought him from film school and trailer editing to medicine and mental health. As the child of South American immigrants, Daniel has always been drawn to culture, human stories, and meaningful connection. He shares how those threads have run through both of his careers, why he believes human connection is at an all-time low, and how story might be one of our most powerful tools for restoring it. A rich conversation about identity, reinvention, and the things that make us human. Guest Bio Dr. Daniel Knoepflmacher is the Director of the General Psychiatry Residency Program at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medicine, the Vice Chair for Education in the Department of Psychiatry at Weill Cornell Medicine, and host of the podcast On the Mind. Dr. Knoepflmacher brings his unique background from a prior career in the film industry to his work as a psychiatrist, consultant, educator, and administrative leader. His past pursuits in a creative field and high-pressure business environments have informed his empathic approach to treating individuals struggling with personal, professional, academic, and artistic challenges. Overseeing the education, training, and mentorship of dozens of psychiatric trainees, he champions a humanistic approach to psychiatry, where residents learn to provide compassionate treatment in a training environment that is inclusive, intellectually stimulating, clinically comprehensive, and collaborative. He is also committed to educating the public about mental health through his podcast, public speaking, and appearances on television and radio. Guest Links Podcast: On the Mind Weill Cornell Medicine — Department of Psychiatry Credits Host: Dr. Kimberly Grocher PhD, MA, LCSW, ACC, RYT Music: Gregory Brooks, Jr. Sound Engineer: Hitz Muzic Group, LLC www.kimberlybondsgrocher.com  |  kimberly@verveandvision.com  |  IG @drkimbgrocher

    Season 2, EP6: Driven by Story
  4. Apr 29

    Season 2, EP4: More Than One Way: Purpose, Risk & the Courage to Recover

    What does it look like to stay true to your mission when the path changes? In this episode of Thriving Outside the Box, Dr. Kim sits down with Robin Rosenberg, PhD — clinical psychologist, executive coach, business advisor, and mentor — for a conversation about purpose, risk, and what recovery really looks like after a major chapter closes. Robin shares her remarkable journey from writing a psychology textbook to founding a venture-backed startup in the San Francisco Bay area that used virtual reality to address unconscious bias in the workplace — and what it took to keep going when that company had to close in 2020. This is a conversation about the many different forms a mission can take, the courage it requires to pursue it, and the mentorship relationships that sustain us along the way. Guest Bio Robin S. Rosenberg is a clinical psychologist with psychotherapy and coaching practices in California, Connecticut, Florida, Massachusetts, New York, and Utah. She is board certified in clinical psychology by the American Board of Professional Psychology and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Clinical Psychology. She is an Assistant Clinical Professor at the University of California, San Francisco, and has taught psychology at Lesley University and Harvard University. Dr. Rosenberg specializes in treating anxiety disorders, eating disorders, depression, relationship and work-related issues, and couples and families. She is a Past President of the Women's Mental Health Consortium. She writes about psychology for general audiences — often using fictional characters to illustrate psychological concepts — and has authored psychology textbooks for college students. She received her BA from New York University and her MA and PhD in clinical psychology from the University of Maryland, College Park, with clinical training at Massachusetts Mental Health Center/Harvard Medical School and a postdoctoral fellowship at Harvard Pilgrim Health Care. Guest Links & Info Website: drrobinrosenberg.com Connect with me: Website: www.kimberlybondsgrocher.com Email: kimberly@verveandvision.com Instagram: @drkimbgrocher LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-grocher Wealth, Water, & Wellness Retreat- May 15th-16th, 2026-Clearwater Beach, FL Credits: Host: Dr. Kimberly Grocher PhD, MA, LCSW, ACC, RYT Music: Gregory Brooks, Jr. Sound Engineer: Hitz Muzic Group, LLC

    Season 2, EP4: More Than One Way: Purpose, Risk & the Courage to Recover
  5. Apr 15

    Season 2, EP3: Listening In Before You Listen Out

    What does it really mean to listen to yourself — and how does that shape the way you show up for everyone else? In this episode of Thriving Outside the Box, Dr. Kim sits down with Marie Deveaux, inclusive leadership coach and CEO of High Tides Consulting, for a deeply personal and honest conversation rooted in Marie's own journey and her work with leaders. They explore discernment as a daily practice, what it means to have a real relationship with fear, and how trusting yourself and staying in alignment with your own vision is foundational to every relationship you're in. Marie shares her perspective on what transformation actually requires: being resourced through community, an ecosystem of support, the humility to say you're at capacity, and the willingness to ask for — and allow yourself to receive — help. A rich, grounded conversation about the inner work that makes everything else possible. Marie Deveaux is the Founder and CEO of High Tides Consulting, a learning and development agency dedicated to magnifying the voices of women and people of color in the workplace. Rooted in Black feminist praxis, her work blends applied sociolinguistics with practical leadership tools to challenge dominant narratives, dismantle bias, and foster truly inclusive cultures. Through workshops, coaching, and cohort learning, Marie empowers individuals and organizations to step boldly outside the "traditional" leadership box and thrive. Her approach is grounded in the belief that authentic communication—shaped by equity and lived experience—is the catalyst for cultural change. Guest Links & Info Websites: hightidesconsulting.co  &  mariedeveaux.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mariedeveaux Resources: Barriers to Bridges Leadership Assessment to explore traits of your own leadership ethos an culture Barriers to Bridges ebook Courses for Managers focused on interpersonal skill development Connect with me: Website: www.kimberlybondsgrocher.com Instagram: @drkimbgrocher LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-grocher Credits: Host: Dr. Kimberly Grocher PhD, MA, LCSW, ACC, RYT Music: Gregory Brooks, Jr. Sound Engineer: Hitz Muzic Group, LLC

    Season 2, EP3: Listening In Before You Listen Out
  6. Apr 1

    Season 2, EP2: Fearlessly Facing Your Shadow

    What if the parts of yourself you've been hiding are actually your greatest gifts? In this episode of Thriving Outside the Box, Dr. Kim sits down with psychotherapist and author Melanie Ryan, LCSW — founder of The Golden Shadow Method — for a rich conversation about fearlessness, authenticity, and the parts of ourselves we've learned to conceal. Drawing on 30 years of clinical experience and the ancient wisdom traditions that underpin her work, Melanie offers a deeply humanizing framework for understanding the "golden shadow" — not as something to fear, but as the source of our truest potential. If you've ever felt like you were shrinking yourself to fit in, this episode will challenge you to reclaim what you left behind.   Guest Bio Melanie Ryan has been a psychotherapist for 30 years. She is the author and founder of The Golden Shadow Method & Ancient Wisdom Today. Melanie specializes in helping others achieve their full potential by connecting with their true nature hidden within the golden shadow.   Guest Links & Info Website: https://www.goldenshadowmethod.com/ Instagram: @golden.shadow.method | @ancientwisdomtoday Facebook: @Melanie Ryan | @Ancient Wisdom Today The Golden Shadow Method Retreat — August 2026, Omega Institute, Rhinebeck, NY   Connect with Dr. Kim Website: www.kimberlybondsgrocher.com Email: kimberly@verveandvision.com Instagram: @drkimbgrocher LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-grocher   Host: Dr. Kimberly Grocher PhD, MA, LCSW, ACC, RYT Music: Gregory Brooks, Jr. Sound Engineer: Hitz Muzic Group, LLC

    Season 2, EP2: Fearlessly Facing Your Shadow

Ratings & Reviews

4.5
out of 5
8 Ratings

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Thriving Outside The Box is a podcast that sheds light on the stories of leaders and entrepreneurs across industries who dared to create and walk their own path in their careers, lives and businesses and provide inspiration for how listeners can do the same. Dr. Kimberly Grocher, the host, also provides listeners with insights on how to thrive mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually while living a life outside of the box.