Thriving The Future Podcast

Scott is Thriving the Future

I’m a guy in Kansas who grows chestnut trees and writes about building a real life instead of borrowing one. Skills Over Stuff. Plant trees. Grow Food. Build community. Let's Thrive Together. thrivingthefuture.substack.com

  1. MAY 14

    Ep. 180 - Foraging with Merriwether of Foraging Texas

    “The average kid can recognize 50 corporate logos and only knows two plants, if one of them is a banana.” Merriwether Vorderbruggen from ForagingTexas.com has spent 20 years trying to fix that, one foraging class at a time. Merriwether joins me to share about foraging. The prepper world treats foraging like an emergency skill you pull out when things go bad. Meriwether treats it as a way of seeing. Reconnecting people to the world right outside their door. We’ve been told to love, respect, and protect nature but not to interact with her. Eating wild plants is one of the most intimate ways to change that. Foraging forces you to actually observe - matching the structural features of a plant before you eat it. This is a Tier 1 skill using pattern recognition and observation, and it’s a challenge, like a puzzle. Take a hands-on class where you walk the field or buy a book. You will be learning how to really see what’s around you, not just walk past it. And this knowledge compounds the more you practice it and the longer you stay in one place. Soon you will start to see food around you! "My parents were children of the Great Depression. They quickly figured out the only way they were gonna survive us is if they took us out into the woods every day. And when we got hungry, they said, 'Well, go eat that, go eat that.” You don’t have to go deep into the woods. One of the biggest misconceptions about foraging is that you need wilderness. The best foraging is at borders - where field meets woods, where water meets field, where your suburban lawn meets the neighbor’s. That’s where the plant diversity is (the permaculture edge effect). Deep in the woods there is actually less variety because everything is shaded and protected. Most people look at the outdoors and see a sea of green. You have food right outside your door, even in the suburbs. "Just this thrill that, 'Oh my gosh, I can eat this? I have this in my yard. I see this all over the place.' Hearing that several dozen times during the class... it warms my heart." The Weeks of Want are still real. We just came out of what historically would have been the Weeks of Want - when your stored food ran out and your garden wasn’t ready yet. Foraging would have been the thing that tied you over. That craving for fresh greens, vitamin C, and nutrients you cannot get from dried meat drove people to the earliest spring plants. Wild mustards like shepherd’s purse and field pennycress taste like horseradish - Merriwether blends them into a paste and puts them on jerky. Chanterelle mushrooms are coming in. And mulberry leaves, and tender shoots of many plants are all good eating. How did our ancestors know to eat these things? We discuss how our ancestors learned to eat plants of they are poisonous or killed the person who first ate it (like pokeweed). Merriwether shares about the Doctrine of Signatures, and how our ancestors made a best guess based on how it looked and what it seemed like it needed. Caveman Health - Fighting the mismatch. Our bodies didn’t evolve for the world we built. We sit instead of move. We walk on flat surfaces when our brains are designed for uneven, rocky, stumbly terrain that keeps the core engaged and the brain constantly adjusting. We weren’t made for processed food. Merriwether talks about his Caveman Health principle: Do more of what we used to do thousands of years ago. Meriwether calls it “cavemanosity” and he preaches it. Your Next Steps Learn 10 edible plants in your area before you need them. Don’t wait for a crisis to figure out what’s around you. Meriwether’s book covers many plants across all of North America with a regional calendar showing when to look for each plant depending on where you live, because “spring” in Texas is not “spring” in Minnesota. Look at borders, not deep woods. The edge where your lawn meets the neighbor’s, where field meets tree line, where water meets land - that’s where the diversity is. You don’t need a forest to start foraging. You probably have edible plants growing within walking distance of your front door. Match the structural features before eating anything wild. Leaf arrangement (opposite or alternating), edge pattern (toothed or smooth), vein pattern, flower and fruit location, root type, scent. Not just “it looks like the picture.” If you’ve matched eight features, you’ve separated it from the lookalikes. This is the kind of observation skill that makes you better at everything else too. Where to Find Meriwether * ForagingTexas.com * Facebook: Foraging Texas * Merriwether’s Substack * YouTube: Foraging Texas * Or just go out in the woods and yell, “Hey, Meriwether, can I eat this?” Merriwether’s book: Foraging: Explore Nature’s Bounty and Turn Your Foraged Finds Into Flavorful Feasts I grow chestnuts in Kansas. Why? Because the chestnuts I bought from elsewhere struggled or died. Now I collect local chestnut seeds and grow them into seedlings. I sell the extras that I don’t use. If you want Midwest Memory trees that will survive in Midwest Zones 5 -7, go to Grow Nut Trees. Order now for Fall shipping! Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    29 min
  2. Ep. 179 - Seeds Have a Memory - My Adventures in Growing Chestnuts in Kansas

    APR 26

    Ep. 179 - Seeds Have a Memory - My Adventures in Growing Chestnuts in Kansas

    I am a guy who grows chestnuts in Kansas, where we can go from 33 degrees to 96 in two days. Sometimes it feels like the odds are against me. Seeds have a memory. They thrived and reproduced in a certain climate. And they remember that place. A tree bought from GA will leaf out earlier than a local tree. And that can be a problem. This weekend I culled trees. Trees that didn’t make it and ones that did not thrive. I had ones that had tip die-back - they had leaves halfway up the tree seedling and then it was dead above that. That usually happens because of Winter, but it also can happen when growing trees in tree tubes in a pasture. I first cut off the top and said, “I can save this!”. Then I thought: I don’t want a tree in my orchard that will die back halfway in the Winter, and I certainly don’t want to sell a tree like that and get a bad reputation. Not everyone feels that way. I heard a story this week of an online nursery that sells chestnut trees, but also sells culinary chestnuts to eat. They pull the best, largest chestnuts to sell to grocery stores and they sprout out the small inferior chestnuts into seedlings and then sell the seedlings. The result will be trees that create smaller chestnuts! I was shocked when I heard that story, but maybe I shouldn’t have been. A guy came over to buy chestnut seedlings yesterday. He is from Nebraska and was passing through and came as a referral. He wanted 4 Qing and 4 Peach seedlings. I looked at the Peach seedlings and straight up told him that I wasn’t completely comfortable with them. They had delayed coming out of dormancy and several of them had tip die back. So I sold him something else instead. I am not bragging, it’s just how I feel about it. I don’t want to be like that big nursery. I planted out several chestnuts and trees in my back orchard. Qing, Peach, and a Butterball crabapple that I got my friend Mike at 39th Parallel Nursery. That crabapple will hold apples on the tree into November or December. I planted it near the deer trails in the back pasture. (You can read more about it in What I’m Planting in My Pasture to Feed Deer Through Every Season). I grow chestnuts in Kansas. Why? Because the chestnuts I bought from elsewhere struggled or died. Now I collect local chestnut seeds and grow them into seedlings. I sell the extras that I don’t use. If you want Midwest Memory trees that will survive in Midwest Zones 5 -7, go to Grow Nut Trees. I am now taking orders for Fall. The Meadow Creature broadfork is my go-to garden tool, a must for my clay soil. I use it for creating new in-ground garden beds - I just turn over the sod, add some compost, seeds, and cover it with woodchips. How to Create a New Garden Bed with Milpa Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    9 min
  3. Ep. 178 - Matt Derosier, The Water Dev

    APR 4

    Ep. 178 - Matt Derosier, The Water Dev

    Matt Derosier shares about his new project - The Water Dev. When he heard of a weekend workshop with Zach Weiss and the Water Stories team, he signed up immediately. He was playing in the mud like a little kid again. He found his calling and purpose. A true career that he would never want to retire from. Listen how he is healing the land for future generations. It all starts with water. Matt shares about his project with a lady who is creating a horse apothecary - planting herbs that the horses would eat as needed to deal with what ails them. He helped her map the water across her land. Living in Montana, Matt is also “on fire” about fire prevention by “planting water” and hydrating the land through infiltration to make the land more resistant to fire danger. You can see his work at The Water Dev. I’m a guy in Kansas who grows chestnut trees and writes about building a real life instead of borrowing one. Skills Over Stuff. Plant trees, Grow Food, Build community. Join me. Let’s Thrive Together. I grow chestnuts in Kansas. Why? Because the chestnuts I bought from elsewhere struggled or died. Now I collect local chestnut seeds and grow them into seedlings. I sell the extras that I don’t use. If you want Midwest Memory trees that will survive in Midwest Zones 5 -7, go to Grow Nut Trees. I now have Qing chestnut seedlings available! Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    28 min
  4. MAR 14

    Ep. 177 - I'm Not Larping. I'm Just Being.

    Jill Winger, from The Prairie Homestead recently posted: “What the Hell happened to Homesteading?”. Homesteading became a “movement”. A title and a brand. The Instagrammers arrived and co-opted it. If you post on “homesteading” on Twitter/X you are guaranteed to get a comment with the “P” word - Privilege. You can count down (3-2-1) to when it will show up in the comments. Let’s drop the titles and Just Do. Yes, I have used “Homesteading” content in my podcast. Yes, I have a full time job. No, I don’t get 100% of my food (or even 50%) from my 10 acres.“You’re just Larping!” No. I grow food because it’s more fresh, no bad stuff, and I like the taste. I graft Asian pears onto the cursed Callery pears trying to take over my pasture. I grow my own chestnut trees from seed because the trees I bought from elsewhere died. And I like chestnuts. I grew so many that I sell the extra. I’m not Larping. I’m just Being. What is Thriving the Future really about? Thriving the Future is really about Mindset. Some people say that my content is all over the place: homesteading, side hustles, entrepreneurship, Bloomscrolling over doomscrolling. No, and here’s why: Let’s go back to the beginning. I started the podcast because my friend Perpend and I were having conversations that I didn’t hear anywhere else. We were in the midst of Covid. Vaxx mandates were on the horizon. I was about 2 weeks away from the threat of losing my job. But Perpend and I were talking about different things - Living Not By Lies. Skills are more important than your two-is-one-and-one-is-none stuff. You need to develop a mindset and worldview to handle change and suffering and struggle. That was 2021 - 2022. And you know what: We need that message now more than ever. Here we are at the anniversary of the Lockdowns. And people are trying to deny it even happened. “2020 was the Tutorial level of the game” - Cyprian If that was the Tutorial level, we are quickly going to meet the Final Boss Battle. We need the core Thriving message now more than ever. So it’s time to go back to the beginning. Stop Living a Borrowed Life “I don’t care about the news. I create my own news.” That was my very first post to Thriving the Future, in Oct-2021. Many of us are living borrowed lives - stories written for you by the news cycle, the political binary, the Like economy. We used to call it FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt is evoked intentionally, to put someone at a disadvantage. That’s what consuming their stories and their worldview is doing to you. Stop consuming their stories. Start creating yours. That is what “Just Being” means. Skills Over Stuff I don’t need the approved title “homesteader” to grow my own food and trees. I graft Asian pears onto the cursed Callery pears because removing them is damn near impossible. The problem is the solution. I am not doing it for a photo op post. I am just doing it because I like Asian pears. The Chojuro pears that I am grafting taste like butterscotch. The skill is more important than the stuff. While preppers store stuff and fret over two-is-one-and-one-is-none, I am spending my money on stuff that won’t easily break. I am developing skills that can’t be lost or taken away. Something that I can show and teach to my grandson. And the chestnuts will get planted, the pears are grafted, the food is grown. Just not for Likes. I grow chestnuts in Kansas. Why? Because the chestnuts I bought from elsewhere struggled or died. Now I collect local chestnut seeds and grow them into seedlings. I sell the extras that I don’t use. If you want Midwest Memory trees that will survive and thrive in Midwest Zones 5 -7, go to Grow Nut Trees. Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    8 min
  5. Ep. 176 -From Replaceable Employee to Expert Owner with Mantel Featherson

    FEB 19

    Ep. 176 -From Replaceable Employee to Expert Owner with Mantel Featherson

    You are asked to train the new hire. Then they are given some of your projects. You are passed over for a new position because they want a “digital native”, even though you led the company-wide AI rollout as an AI Champion. You made it through the last round of layoffs but now coworkers are cutting you out of key meetings. The writing is on the wall. You need to own your expertise. Mantel Featherson of FutureProof50 joins me to discuss how to secure your future by leveraging your most powerful professional asset - your expertise. We talk about the mindset shift and how to navigate it. "These layoffs aren't really about performance anymore. It's more about cost savings. It's becoming a numbers game." — Mantel Build income streams now while you still have a job. Expertise is three things: knowledge, experience, and perspective. Knowledge is what you’ve learned. Experience is what you’ve accumulated. Perspective is your secret weapon — it is the judgment that comes from having seen the same movie play out before. You know where the pitfalls are. That’s what you’re actually selling. Mantel’s four-step framework: Extract, Package, Position, Distribute. Jump in and Extract your expertise — nail down what you actually know and what you’re passionate about, because passion matters if you’re going to talk about it for years. Package it so people can recognize you for it immediately. Position it for the right market — who specifically is this for? Distribute it through the channels that fit how you work, whether that’s Substack, coaching, consulting, or courses. Take action to own your expertise Take a skills inventory before you do anything else. List what you know, what you’ve done, and where your judgment is sharper than most people’s. Don’t frame it as a resume timeline. Frame it as: What problems can I solve? Identify the bridge from pain to purpose. What problem are you solving, and for whom? Talk to people in your target market before you build the offer. Let their words shape your positioning. Package your expertise so someone can recognize it in ten seconds. If you can’t explain what you do and who it’s for in one clear sentence, you don’t have a package yet. Keep refining until it’s that simple. Build something on the side before you need to. You don’t have to quit your job. The goal is to reduce your vulnerability. One source of income is exposure. A Substack, a consulting engagement, a small course — these aren’t backup plans, they’re the actual plan. Talk to yourself where you were two years ago. That person is your avatar, your customer. What did you need to know then that you know now? That’s your offer. That’s your market. Start there. "You're basically your own first client. The challenge you had two or three years ago — that's often the challenge others are having right now." — Mantel How to connect with Mantel: Mantel on Substack FutureProof50 Mantel on LinkedIn Mantel on Twitter If you want to hear more positive content like this, subscribe to the Thriving the Future Substack. If you found this episode insanely helpful, you can show Thriving the Future some love by making a one time (no subscription!) donation. Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    47 min
  6. Ep. 175 - Empowering Child Entrepreneurs with Leah Ellis

    JAN 23

    Ep. 175 - Empowering Child Entrepreneurs with Leah Ellis

    Leah Ellis from the Society of Child Entrepreneurs shares how asking a child simple questions of “Why?” can empower them to solve problems and even become entrepreneurs. Because Entrepreneurship is about solving problems. During COVID, Leah’s 4½-year-old daughter Melody had been watching entrepreneurship training videos alongside her mom. One day she said, “Mommy, I want to start a business too.” Leah’s gut reaction was no—you’re four, you’re still working on counting to fifty. But Melody kept asking “Why?” And Leah stood there realizing she didn’t have an answer. “Every answer I had was stuck on why other people wouldn’t let her do it and not necessarily why a four-year-old in the midst of a global pandemic with nothing better to do couldn’t start a business.” So they did it. Melody started “Melody Paints”—custom drip art sold through a Facebook page and a Google form. You picked your colors, paid via Venmo, and she shipped you a painting. Why Leah Started the Society of Child Entrepreneurs After moving back to Kansas, Leah hosted a children’s business fair at a local coffee shop. Eleven kids showed up. Some made over $300 in two hours. One kid donated everything to his church’s summer camp scholarship fund. The place was so packed they would’ve been fined if the fire marshal had walked in. But then it was over. The kids went home and nobody taught them anything else. That bothered Leah. She wanted to create something that kept going—peers for her daughters to talk business with, a place where entrepreneurship wasn’t a one-day event but an ongoing conversation. So in July 2024, she convinced some friends to help her start a nonprofit. Now the Society of Child Entrepreneurs has business fairs, curriculum, storybooks, monthly workshops, and a nationwide online platform that just launched. The Best Age to Start Leah says the sweet spot for entrepreneurship is 4th through 6th grade. By fourth grade, kids desperately want whatever name-brand thing is cool right now. Parents have already spent four years buying cool stuff that ended up collecting dust, so they’ve stopped. Now the kid has to figure out how to get it themselves. That’s when the scrappiness kicks in—selling bracelets to classmates, weeding grandma’s garden for cash, painting shirts. By 7th or 8th grade, kids start looking for “real” jobs—fast food, steady babysitting gigs. They drift away from the creativity of entrepreneurship unless they’re already plugged into a program. If they are, they usually stick with it. Your Actionable Steps The Dinner Table Question At meals, ask your kids: “What’s one problem you noticed in your life today that you could solve, and how would you solve it?” It might be something small—getting toothpaste from the end of the tube. It might be something they actually saw—a kid who struggles to get off the bus because the last step is too tall. Either way, ask follow-ups. And if they want to pursue it, let them. “Your guide is the person who asks you questions and supports you while you find your journey and you go on your mission.” I particularly liked this story: One girl in the program makes decorative pens with sayings at the top. When asked to write a mission statement, she said she didn’t have one—she just makes pens. Leah kept asking Why. “Why do you make pens?” “Because I like having a pretty pen.” “Why?” “Because it shows people what’s important to me without having to say anything.” That was her mission. For people to share what matters to them, and sometimes without saying it in words. Stop Solving, Start Asking Swap out your instinct to fix things for a habit of asking questions. How would you do that? What would it look like in practice? What could go wrong and how would you handle it? Keep pushing until they work through it themselves. Find ways to create that same dynamic at home or in your community. “Think about something in your life that annoys you. Chances are it annoys the neighbor down the road too. What can you do to solve the problem for both of you and get some of his money while you’re at it?” If you want to hear more positive content like this, subscribe to the Thriving the Future Substack. If you found this episode insanely helpful, you can show Thriving the Future some love by making a one time (no subscription!) donation. Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    27 min
  7. Ep. 174 - Achieve Your Intentional Life Goals, Not Futile Resolutions

    JAN 12

    Ep. 174 - Achieve Your Intentional Life Goals, Not Futile Resolutions

    Today is the first day of the rest of your life. You can literally start over (maybe with some pain and consequences, but it is still true). This mindset is real Freedom. Show notes for this episode It’s a New Year and statistics, and personal experience, show that most of you will give up on your resolutions by Jan-20. That’s because you are approaching it as a task and not adopting it as a mindset and core identity. Change Your Identity Resolutions fail because they try to change outcomes without changing identity. The fundamental problem isn’t willpower or technique—it’s that people say “I’m going to lose 20 pounds” instead of “I am no longer someone who eats this way.” A resolution is “something I’m going to do.” An intention is “what I am doing.” It is who I am. The research on smoking cessation proves this: people who say “I quit” restart more often than those who say “I am not a smoker.” One is a temporary action; the other is an identity shift. I was on the Paleo diet for 2 years. Then I started bargaining and failed. A new diet is a new identity – When you start a diet, you say, for example, “I am on the Paleo diet”. This implies that you can get off the Paleo diet or you can have a cheat day. You start compartmentalizing and bargaining. Instead of saying “I am on the Paleo diet”, adopt it as your identity. “I am Paleo”. Those who succeed at this see it trickle down to their friends, who know that they will have to have or make alternatives for this person at their dinner, party, or get-together. Stop making resolutions. Start making identity statements. Not “I’m going to garden this year.” “I am a gardener.” Not “I’m going to start a side hustle.” “I am building my business.” Then ask yourself what that person does every single day—and do one small piece of it right now. It even comes down to your friends “I am the sum total of the people I spend my most time around.” - Perpend If your friends aren’t doers, their inaction will pull you back. This doesn’t mean abandoning relationships, but honestly assessing: are the people I spend the most time with aligned with who I’m becoming? Plan your life with intention so you are moving toward that goal.: Involving kids in your intentional life As I shared in You Need to be Bloomscrolling, Not Doomscrolling, no one wanted to clear the weeds from the overgrown raised beds at my daughter’s house. I got my grandchildren excited about gardening by giving them a homeschooling assignment to look at the seed catalog and choose some seeds based on the color and whether they think they would be tasty. Then they pushed those seeds into the ground and weeded and watered them. They grew moonflower, a purple cabbage, stocky carrots, and a watermelon that they thought would be “juicy and tasty”. Today is the first day of the rest of your life. If you found this episode insanely helpful, you can show some love by making a one time (no subscription!) donation below. If you like this hard hitting content with real tips you can use, then Subscribe to the Thriving the Future Substack! Scott runs Grow Nut Trees (Midwest Memory chestnut and hazelnut trees and perennials like elderberry cuttings) and is a Chestnut Orchard Architect, designing orchards and food forests for Midwest homesteaders. Currently booking consults for Spring. Sign up for your Free Discovery call where I help you with your Big Picture. Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    7 min
  8. Ep. 173 - Searching for Community with Andy Hickman

    12/17/2025

    Ep. 173 - Searching for Community with Andy Hickman

    Andy Hickman (shagbark_hick on X/Twitter) has gone viral in recent months as he has tried to form community in Northern New York. He shares about the tension between loving a place yet watching it die. Do you stay? Is there anything left to hold onto? “People talk about community. There’s already community. There’s already a structure that makes sense. It’s the small town, the city block, the village, the neighborhood. We’ve done this for thousands of years.” Despite having a difficult year, he is still one of the most positive people I know. * His plans for the New Year - to travel South. He may even purchase a car (!). * Some of the places in the Southwest that he loves and wants to visit, to share with his wife Keturah, who has not seen that part of the country. * His new writing projects, including a potential book deal. * Andy’s favorite Christmas memory: Being the Yule King and riding the Yule log through the city square. Hickman’s Hinterlands on Substack shagbark_hick on X/Twitter Andy’s love of the Southwest: "It doesn't even feel like America because it's so American, if that makes sense. It's this weird horseshoe zone where you feel like you're in a foreign country, but you're actually in the heart of your own country." Actionable steps Actionable Steps Stop reinventing community structures. Before trying to form an intentional community with elaborate rules and shared land, consider whether you could just move near like-minded people and be neighbors. Let natural community form through proximity and shared values rather than formal agreements. Audit why you live where you live. What’s the one thing that anchors you to your place? If that thing disappeared tomorrow, would you still have reason to stay? Look for communities with their “mojo” intact. Vitality isn’t about economics or amenities. It’s about whether people gather, whether families are growing, whether there’s optimism. Some declining places still have thriving pockets. Some prosperous places are spiritually dead. Notice the difference. Reclaim Sunday. Turn stuff off. Sit around and talk. Gather with family. This isn’t about productivity hacks or “intentional rest”—it’s about Thriving. Thriving the Future Substack is positive solutions (and even bittersweet conversations). Subscribe and get more - over 170 podcast episodes, and many articles on how to Thrive in a challenging and changing culture. Wyldewood elderberries make some of the best elderberry wine. Plus I make elderberry syrup and cough medicine for when I have a cold. It’s mid-Winter but it is the perfect time to get some elderberry cuttings. Just poke the stick in the ground and the elderberry will take off right there. Get your elderberry cuttings to grow your own elderberry for wine at Grow Nut Trees. Get full access to Thriving the Future Substack at thrivingthefuture.substack.com/subscribe

    31 min
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I’m a guy in Kansas who grows chestnut trees and writes about building a real life instead of borrowing one. Skills Over Stuff. Plant trees. Grow Food. Build community. Let's Thrive Together. thrivingthefuture.substack.com

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