Toot or Boot: HR Edition

Stacey Nordwall
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Welcome to Toot or Boot, where a rotating crew of forward-thinking HR professionals dive into the latest news and trends shaping the workplace. We’re passionate about finding modern solutions and advocate for transforming the world of work into a space that’s fairer, more inclusive, and supportive for all. Join us as we challenge the status quo, spark meaningful conversations, and explore innovative ways to create a better future for employees and organizations alike.

  1. JUN 5

    Moderna merges HR and IT, the price of office politics, and is sustainable scaling achievable?

    In this episode, we explore three critical workplace strategy topics: how effective leaders can minimize office politics through transparency, accountability, and encouraging diverse viewpoints—strategies that seem obvious yet many workplaces still struggle to implement; Moderna's innovative approach to merging their tech and HR departments under a single "chief people and digital technology officer" role, complete with over 3,000 custom GPTs, representing a thoughtful years-long integration rather than a knee-jerk AI adoption; and the challenges of scaling a business sustainably, where the advice to build systems for 10x capacity sounds great in theory but often conflicts with the reality that HR infrastructure typically lags behind growth, creating a delicate balance between building too little too late versus over-engineering for your current stage. Connect Katya Laviolette on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katya-laviolette-6907b726/ Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles How Effective Leaders Minimize Office PoliticsWhy Moderna Merged Its Tech and HR DepartmentsWhy Scaling a Business is the Hardest—and Most Important—Stage of Growth

    27 min

  2. MAY 27

    The cost of DEI rollbacks, the new employer-employee relationship , and the human cost of content moderation

    This episode dives into why some CEOs are paying the price for walking back DEI, how the employer-employee relationship has fundamentally shifted, and the horrifying conditions faced by Meta’s outsourced content moderators. From strategic miscalculations to moral failures, we examine what these stories tell us about leadership, labor, and the values that shape today’s workplaces. Connect: With Anessa: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anessafike/On her website: https://www.fikeandco.com/Her book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-of-work-f**k-the-patriarchy-and-the-workplace-it-built-anessa-fike/21206822?ean=9781961347540&next=tWith Stacey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: How some corporations miscalculated the impact of abandoning DEI Has the Labor Market changed or have employees?Meta faces Ghana lawsuits over impact of extreme content on moderators

    31 min

  3. MAY 20

    A hard job market for new college grads, the cost of declining employee wellbeing, a bold child care policy

    In this episode, we explore Cake’s Body’s bold $36K childcare stipend, why the job market is suddenly so brutal for college grads, and what the WEF’s new report reveals about the steep decline in employee well-being. We break down what these headlines signal about where workplaces are headed—and what HR needs to be thinking about next. Connect: With Anessa: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anessafike/On her website: https://www.fikeandco.com/Her book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-of-work-f**k-the-patriarchy-and-the-workplace-it-built-anessa-fike/21206822?ean=9781961347540&next=t With Stacey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: Cakes Body’s $36K Child Care Credit Leads the Way in Affordable Child Care Planning for EmployeesSomething Alarming Is Happening to the Job Market World Economic Forum Warns Employee Well-Being Is Declining—and Costing Businesses Trillions

    27 min

  4. MAY 13

    The workplace triple threat: Disengagement, RTOs, and Fake AI Applicants

    This week, we're diving into three concerning workplace trends: First, employee engagement is declining sharply, with managers under 35 and female managers leading this downward slide—potentially because they're caught in middle management roles with high responsibility but little decision-making power. Meanwhile, BNY Mellon is increasing its office mandate from three to four days weekly by September 2025, again bringing up the question of if RTOs are actually solving the challenges businesses are having. Finally, tech CEOs are raising alarms about candidates using AI to fake their way through remote job interviews—with Gartner projecting that by 2028, one in four global job applicants will be using AI-generated profiles, posing serious security risks beyond simple resume fraud. Connect: With Lee Rubin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rubinl/ With Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: Employee Engagement is Dropping and Managers are leading the slideBNY asks employees to return to office four days a week by SeptemberFake job seekers are flooding U.S. companies that are hiring for remote positions, tech CEOs say

    33 min

  5. MAY 6

    The path from CPO to COO, employee choice in RTOs, and job ads for narcissists?

    This week, we discuss why HR professionals are naturally positioned for C-suite operations roles, examining the journey of Hinge's Angel Franklin from CPO to COO and why this transition shouldn't be considered unusual. We also dive into MongoDB's approach to hybrid work models, and fascinating research on how job ad language may inadvertently attract candidates with narcissistic tendencies and what this means for recruitment strategies. Connect: with Steven Huang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thestevenhuang/ or sign up for his newsletter: https://setthesetting.substack.com/ with Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: Why it’s not far-fetched for HR pros to dream of being COO Giving employees a choice when to be in the office Why is your boss a narcissist? Blame the job ad that got them hired

    21 min

  6. APR 29

    Target's DEI rollbacks hit their bottom line, LGBTQ discrimination on the rise, and quiet cracking

    This week, we dive into the real-world impacts of DEI rollbacks, workplace discrimination, and employee disengagement. We examine how Target faced boycotts and significant business impacts after eliminating DEI initiatives recently met with Rev. Al Sharpton to address the impacts of boycotts. We'll also explore troubling new research showing increased workplace discrimination against LGBTQ+ employees amid a record year of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation. Finally, we discuss the emerging concept of "quiet cracking" and what it reveals about the current state of workplace wellbeing and employee engagement. Connect: with Steven Huang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thestevenhuang/ or sign up for his newsletter: https://setthesetting.substack.com/ with Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: Rev Al Sharpton meets with Target CEO over halting of DEI initiativeLGBTQ+ workers report more discrimination, less happiness at workWhat is ‘quiet cracking’? Worker disengagement has a new name

    22 min

  7. APR 22

    Workplace Accessibility: How policy changes like RTOs disproportionately impact employees with disabilities

    This week, we welcome Nathan Chung, Jessica Donahue, and Greer Procich for a critical conversation about workplace accessibility and inclusion. With collective experience in HR, cybersecurity, and disability advocacy, our panel examines how current workplace policies often overlook the experiences of disabled and neurodivergent employees. The conversation explores three major topics affecting the workplace: The surge in return-to-office mandates and their disproportionate impact on people with disabilities which is reversing progress that had been made in employment for people with disabilities.The potentially devastating implications of Texas v. Becerra, a lawsuit challenging Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, the ripple effects of which could undermine fundamental disability rights in workplaces.Recent changes at the EEOC, including the halting of sexual orientation and gender identity discrimination claims and the abandonment of existing lawsuits - as the EEOC continues to operate without a quorum.Our guests offer advice and insight for HR professionals navigating these challenges and advocating for truly inclusive workplaces.  Learn more about Rethink Ability: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/greerprocich_rethinking-disability-from-red-tape-to-real-activity-7310716858263908354-uJxk Connect: Nathan Chung: on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nc808/on the Disability Disrupted podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@DisabilityDisruptedJessica Donahue: on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-e-donahue/on her website: https://www.adjunctleadership.com/Greer Procich: on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greerprocich/Stacey Nordwall: on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: 5 years into the remote work boom, the return-to-office push is stronger than ever—here's why ‘Dangerous’ lawsuit could imperil disability rights, advocates sayAndrea Lucas renominated to EEOC, pledges ‘evenhanded’ civil rights enforcement Five years of remote work changed workplace accessibility. Employees with disabilities will feel its loss.

    56 min

  8. APR 15

    Meta's "do not rehire" list, the decline of workplace friendships, and HR teams too stretched to action employee feedback

    In this episode, we analyze new Glassdoor research suggesting employees are increasingly deprioritizing workplace relationships, questioning whether this shift stems from broader social disconnection or reflects changing priorities in a hybrid world. We also discuss a revealing Perceptyx survey showing that while 95% of HR teams are collecting employee feedback, only 27% feel confident they can act on it—highlighting the growing burnout crisis among HR professionals who are stretched too thin. Finally, we explore the controversy surrounding Meta's "do not rehire" list, examining the tension between standard HR offboarding practices and transparency in employment relationships.  Connect: Kim Minnick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-minnick/ Stacey Nordwall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles: Employees care less and less about workplace relationships, new research finds Stressed HR teams say they can’t take action on employee feedback  Meta keeps secret ‘do not rehire’ list of ex-employees — despite exceptional performance reviews: report

    26 min
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Welcome to Toot or Boot, where a rotating crew of forward-thinking HR professionals dive into the latest news and trends shaping the workplace. We’re passionate about finding modern solutions and advocate for transforming the world of work into a space that’s fairer, more inclusive, and supportive for all. Join us as we challenge the status quo, spark meaningful conversations, and explore innovative ways to create a better future for employees and organizations alike.

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  • Creator
    Stacey Nordwall
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    45
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2025 Toot or Boot: HR Edition
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