Thinking On Paper

A Technology Show For The Radically Curious
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A technology show for the radically curious. Weekly interviews with the CEOS, founders and outliers of the space industry, AI, blockchain, robotics and quantum computing. Thinking On Paper isn't about seed investment and funding. We don't care about that. From music and work to family, education, war and cinema, Mark and Jeremy learn about the human story of technology and the real impacts on daily life for the 99%. Guests: IBM, Infleqtion, Kevin Kelly, Carissa Veliz, Microsoft, Don Norman, Philip Metzger, Skyler Chan, Nvidia, Pia Lauritzen and many more.

  1. At 100 Qubits, Quantum Stops Being Theory. Pranav Gokhale Says That's 2028

    1D AGO

    At 100 Qubits, Quantum Stops Being Theory. Pranav Gokhale Says That's 2028

    For thirty-five years, quantum computing has been five years away. In this episode, Infelqtion CTO Pranav Gokhale makes the case that 2028 is the year quantum becomes useful. He explains what a logical qubit actually is, why 100 of them represents a genuine tipping point for material science and drug discovery, and what the Infleqtion roadmap to 2028 looks like. -- -- Other ways to connect with us: ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz

    7 min
  2. Can NASA Survive the Commercial Space (X) Era? - Space To Grow, Part 3

    3D AGO

    Can NASA Survive the Commercial Space (X) Era? - Space To Grow, Part 3

    Why does it cost NASA $4.2 billion per launch when SpaceX predicts Starship could do the same job for as little as $10 million? In the Space to Grow Book Club, Mark and Jeremy learn about the SPAC bubble that wiped out 90% of space start-up valuations. They ask why Virgin Orbit collapsed from a $3.7B valuation to bankruptcy in two years and why Astra went public at $2.1B with zero rockets that had ever reached orbit.  Mark questions whether both did exactly what crypto did: overpromise, crash, and leave retail investors holding nothing. Then our intrepid hosts turn to NASA's Artemis program. An agency born in the Cold War, now being outpaced on cost and speed by private companies it used to dwarf. Can it reinvent itself before it becomes irrelevant? Does humanity have the coordination and trust to do genuinely big things in space? Or will we keep making small bets while China races to the Moon? We're reading 'Space to Grow' by Matthew Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau, the book the whole space industry is reading.  Please enjoy the show. -- ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz -- Chapters (00:00) What is a SPAC?  (01:30) Why space SPACs failed  (03:20) Virgin Orbit & Astra: the worst examples  (06:00) SPACs vs Crypto: same story?  (08:30) The Stag Hunt: why space needs coordination  (11:00) NASA Artemis explained  (13:00) SLS vs Starship cost breakdown  (17:00) SpaceX & Blue Origin lunar contracts  (20:00) The Moon Race vs China  (22:00) Can NASA survive the commercial space era?

    25 min
  3. Infleqtion Quantum Computing And The Neutral Atom Advantage │ Matt Kinsella

    4D AGO

    Infleqtion Quantum Computing And The Neutral Atom Advantage │ Matt Kinsella

    Matt Kinsella is the CEO of Infleqtion. His company just put a quantum atomic clock inside a UK military submarine. Before that they put quantum technology on the International Space Station. They are building neutral atom, room temperature quantum computers.In this episode Mark and Jeremy learn how quantum clocks work and why they are more precise than anything else on Earth. They get into why GPS is becoming unreliable and what replaces it. They wonder why Infleqtion have put quantum clocks on UK and not US submarines and why neutral atom quantum computing is pulling ahead of every other modality. Finally, the ask how quantum and classical computing work together. And why logical qubits mean quantum advantage is closer than most people thinkPlease enjoy the show. -- Other ways to connect with us: ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz -- Timestamps: (00:00) Trailer (01:50) Why coordination matters: From internal strategy to GPS timing (04:48) What is a quantum clock and how does it link to GPS? (07:18) Nature's metronome: How atoms keep time with laser precision (08:14) Room temperature quantum: Why neutral atoms don't need freezers (12:38) The Rydberg state: Making atoms sensitive to the entire RF spectrum (14:03) Quantum clock on a UK submarine (17:06) Quantum in space: Voyager partnership and the International Space Station (18:48) Hybrid quantum-classical workflows: How QPUs layer above GPUs (23:18) Software layers: From laser control to developer applications (25:32) Drug discovery example: GPU, CPU, QPU (29:03) The bridge between classical and quantum: Memory architecture innovations (31:54) How Quantum Clocks & Products Lead To Quantum Computers (33:48) Nvidia (35:42) Quality or Quantity of Qubits  (38:00) Quantum mechanics and free will: Does wave collapse prove consciousness? Love it. Thanks.

    40 min
  4. Nvidia & Infleqtion Plugged A Quantum Computer Into A Supercomputer

    5D AGO

    Nvidia & Infleqtion Plugged A Quantum Computer Into A Supercomputer

    Quantum computing had zero logical qubits. In 2024 that changed. The entire industry crossed a threshold that nobody had managed to cross in three and a half decades. Infleqtion was one of the first companies through.In this episode, Mark and Jeremy learn from Pranav Gokhale, CTO of Infleqtion, and Sam Stanwyck, Group Product Manager for Quantum Computing at Nvidia. They learn how Nvidia built a four microsecond connection between a GPU and a quantum processor and why that number is the difference between theory and reality. They get into why a GPU and a quantum computer are not competitors but the most complementary technologies ever built. They cover how Infleqtion's quantum computers use the same power as ten hairdryers even at 1,600 qubits. They talk through why drug discovery, battery design and material science are the first industries that quantum will actually change. Finally, they find out about a $20 million NASA partnership sending a quantum gravity sensor to space to measure gravity. -- ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz -- Chapters (00:00) Why quantum computing matters right now  (01:20) Why Nvidia is betting big on quantum  (02:52) NVQ-Link: the bridge between quantum and classical computing (09:29) Who decides what runs on the quantum computer vs the GPU? (12:33) AI helping quantum, quantum helping AI  (16:56) Building a space elevator battery: a real quantum workflow  (20:09) The quantum algorithm zoo  (22:04) From noisy qubits to logical qubits  (24:00) How much energy does a quantum computer actually use?  (27:05) The no-cloning theorem (27:20) The biggest unanswered question in quantum computing (30:47) A $20M NASA program and a telescope for underground  (33:32) What do we want humans to be?

    37 min
  5. NASA Funded It, SpaceX Built It, Helium-3 Pays For It - Glen Martin - Extra-terrestrial Mining Company

    6D AGO

    NASA Funded It, SpaceX Built It, Helium-3 Pays For It - Glen Martin - Extra-terrestrial Mining Company

    Glen Martin is an aerospace engineer and CEO of the Extraterrestrial Mining Company. Helium-3 powers quantum computers, fuel fusion reactors, and end energy scarcity on Earth, and almost nobody is talking about it. There's barely 29 kilograms of it left in the US reserve, and there's 1.1 million tons on the moon. The race to get it has already begun. Expect to learn what helium-3 is and why it could power civilisation, why quantum computing is already running out of it, how a private company plans to finance a lunar mine, and whether the US can build a cislunar economy before China does. -- 📺 Watch on YouTube -- Timestamps (00:00) Trailer (02:45) What is Helium-3, and why are we mining the Moon? (05:29) Why there’s almost no Helium-3 on Earth, and a million tons on the Moon (09:01) How Helium-3 could be harvested from lunar dust (10:33) Fusion without fallout: the clean-energy promise of Helium-3 (13:01) Space-based solar power and fusion: two paths to future energy. (17:56) How private companies plan to finance Moon mining (21:52) The new space race: U.S., China, and the competition for lunar fuel (25:03) Can treaties prevent conflict over Moon resources? (27:37) AI, autonomy, and the machines that will mine the Moon (29:31) NASA’s commercial lunar payloads and the rise of space infrastructure (31:08) What lunar regolith tells us about Helium-3 reserves (33:35) The trillion-dollar question: who profits from space resources? (36:17) Curiosity, wonder, and the future of human exploration (40:01) Technology, morality, and the choice to be good -- Other ways to connect with us: ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz--

    40 min
  6. Carissa Veliz: Privacy Is Power & The Cost of Your Convenience

    MAR 5

    Carissa Veliz: Privacy Is Power & The Cost of Your Convenience

    Carissa Véliz wrote Privacy is Power because she wanted people to understand what is actually being taken from them when they hand over their data. Not their browsing history. Not their location. Their autonomy. Their ability to be unknown. Their right to make mistakes without those mistakes being permanent, profitable, and portable. Somewhere, right now, algorithms are making decisions about your life. A loan. A job. An insurance premium. A news feed curated to make you feel a particular way about politics. You didn't apply. You weren't consulted. You cannot see the criteria. You cannot appeal the outcome. You just live with it. This conversation covers the full picture. What surveillance capitalism actually is and how it works. Why privacy is not just your problem but everyone's. Why the line between government and corporate surveillance disappeared and why that matters. And what you can do about it today, with the phone in your hand, without becoming a hermit or a conspiracy theorist. -- Follow Carissa on X Buy Privacy is Power-- -- ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz -- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Trailer (02:26) What Is Privacy (05:31) Is Democracy At Risk? (08:34) Government & Big Tech (10:39) How To Decouple Big Tech & Government (12:33) Privacy & The Common Human Experience (16:02) Tools To Protect Your Privacy (17:18) Cookie Clutter (19:30) ChatGPT Writes Policy (20:05) Radical Open Mindedness (21:52) AI Alignment (22:56) AI Ethics (28:09) How To Erase Your Data (29:27) What Should Humanity Be? --

    28 min
  7. Hotels On The Moon | Skyler Chan, CEO & Founder GRU

    FEB 26

    Hotels On The Moon | Skyler Chan, CEO & Founder GRU

    Skyler Chan is the 22-year-old founder and CEO of Gru. And he's building a hotel on the moon. And if all goes to plan, the first paying customers could be there as soon as 2032. Of course much has to go right to get there. And much more can go wrong. So let's start with the basics. The moon will kill you in three ways. Pressure. Temperature. Radiation. Gru's answer to the first two is an inflatable. A structure that ships flat, deploys on the lunar surface, and holds enough pressure and warmth to keep a human being alive. Their answer to radiation is a brick. Not a metaphorical brick. An actual brick, made on the moon, from the moon, using a chemical process they're bringing from Earth and mixing with lunar soil. Nobody has ever made anything on the moon. Gru wants to be first. The plan runs in three stages. First launch proves the technology — make a brick, inflate a bladder, don't die. Second launch scales it. Third launch puts people inside. The target date for guests checking in is 2032. The target capacity is four people. The target price per kilogram to get there is a hundred times cheaper than it costs today. A lot has to go right. But Skyler's argument is simple and it's hard to shake. This isn't a technology problem. We went to the moon in 1969 with less computing power than the phone in your pocket. We know how to do this. What's been missing is someone willing to start. He started. Please enjoy. -- ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz -- Chapters (00:00) Trailer (02:19) Building a Hotel on the Moon (06:06) The Logistics of Space Travel (06:47) Economic Considerations for Lunar Ventures (10:03) Merging Technologies for Lunar Habitats (10:59) First Mission: Building the First Brick on the Moon (13:15) Changing Perceptions of Space Projects (16:25) The Human Spirit and Interplanetary Exploration (19:40) Responsibility of Being an Interplanetary Species

    24 min
  8. Philip Johnston TED Talk: StarCloud's Plan to Move Data Centers to Space - Reaction Video

    FEB 18

    Philip Johnston TED Talk: StarCloud's Plan to Move Data Centers to Space - Reaction Video

    Philip Johnston is the CEO of Starcloud. He put an Nvidia H100 chip in space and gave a TED talk about it. As you do if you're responsible for building the infrastructure for space-based data centers.  Elon Musk was not the first. He follows in the footsteps of Mr Johnston. And so, rather than Mr SpaceX, our first technology reaction video is this TED talk from San Francisco.    We watched it for the first time. Live. On TV.  This is not theoretical. It's also not up to date. Philip filmed this in October 2025. Starcloud have already launched the Nvidia H100 on a Falcon 9 up into space.  It's happening disruptors and curious minds. It's happening.  Philip predicts most data centers will be in space within 10 years.  We agree.  Please enjoy the show. Cheers,  Mark & Jeremy. -- Other ways to connect with us: ⁠Listen to every podcast⁠ Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ Follow us on ⁠X⁠ Follow Mark on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Jeremy on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Read our ⁠Substack⁠ Email: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz

    25 min
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A technology show for the radically curious. Weekly interviews with the CEOS, founders and outliers of the space industry, AI, blockchain, robotics and quantum computing. Thinking On Paper isn't about seed investment and funding. We don't care about that. From music and work to family, education, war and cinema, Mark and Jeremy learn about the human story of technology and the real impacts on daily life for the 99%. Guests: IBM, Infleqtion, Kevin Kelly, Carissa Veliz, Microsoft, Don Norman, Philip Metzger, Skyler Chan, Nvidia, Pia Lauritzen and many more.

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    A Technology Show For The Radically Curious
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    110
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