Transforming Relationships

Eric Spiegel and David Alter

Transforming Relationships is a podcast about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. The hosts, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter, bring their decades of expertise as psychologists and hypnotherapists to this rich series. Relationships are the foundation of life. The podcast explores the profound role that relationships play— from the earliest bonds of attachment in childhood to the complex relational networks of influence in our culture, communities, politics, technology, and collective life. Through engaging discussions, Eric and David explore meaningful facets of being human and "in relationship." The podcast will feature two new episodes each month. Join us for a journey into the world of the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Transforming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.

Episodes

  1. "Mother was a Psychopath: I Became a Psychologist"

    4D AGO

    "Mother was a Psychopath: I Became a Psychologist"

    In this episode of Transforming Relationships, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter sit down with Dr. Susanna Carolusson, a psychologist whose career has spanned five decades of work in trauma treatment, hypnosis, and ego state therapy. Drawing on both clinical wisdom and lived experience, Dr. Carolusson reflects on how her own childhood adversity—including growing up with a deeply troubled parent—shaped her lifelong curiosity about the mind and her commitment to helping others heal. The conversation explores ego state therapy and parts work, the role of hypnosis in trauma treatment, and the importance of attunement and emotional safety in the therapeutic relationship. Dr. Carolusson describes how understanding the different "parts" of the self can help clients move toward integration, resilience, and a renewed sense of vitality. Along the way, she offers practical wisdom for therapists and anyone interested in personal growth—from learning to listen to the body's signals to cultivating the kind of curiosity that restores energy, creativity, and connection. Whether you're a clinician, a student of psychology, or someone interested in the process of healing, this episode offers a rare opportunity to learn from a therapist whose work bridges personal transformation and decades of trauma-informed practice. Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guest: Susanna Carolusson Watch this and all of our podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships Topics Covered: Ego state therapy and parts work Hypnosis in trauma treatment Attunement and safety in psychotherapy Curiosity as a therapeutic tool Therapist–client boundaries Resilience and childhood adversity Listening to the body in the healing process Keywords: psychology, trauma therapy, hypnosis, clinical hypnosis, ego state therapy, parts work, trauma healing, attachment, psychotherapy, mental health, therapy techniques, resilience, personal growth, attunement in therapy, trauma treatment Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Transforming Relationships 05:26 The Role of Hypnosis in Trauma Treatment 10:51 Understanding the Parts of the Self 16:11 Curiosity as a Therapeutic Tool 25:39 Navigating Therapist–Patient Boundaries 34:56 The Dandelion Child: Resilience in Adversity 45:19 Listening to the Body: Intuition and Healing   Follow Dr. Susanna Carolusson:     General Info: https://carolussons.se/english.htm Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com    For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com    Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com    Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    1 hr
  2. Dr. Richard Chefetz on Transforming Trauma into Healing

    FEB 25

    Dr. Richard Chefetz on Transforming Trauma into Healing

    In this episode of Transforming Relationships, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter sit down with trauma psychiatrist and author Dr. Richard Chefetz for a profound exploration of trauma, dissociation, and what it means to feel real. Together, they examine how disconnection forms amidst trauma—and how empathy, presence, and safe relational spaces help restore connection. The discussion delves into the impact of dehumanization in enabling trauma; and the therapeutic use of hypnosis in trauma therapy. Throughout the conversation, the speakers emphasize the significance of creating safe spaces for vulnerability and the power of non-verbal communication in fostering intimacy. The episode concludes with reflections on the challenges of intimacy in therapy and the need for meaningful connection in our relationships.  Through clinical insight and heartfelt dialogue, this episode illuminates how genuine presence can transform both therapy and relationships. Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guest: Richard Chefetz Watch this and all of our podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships Keywords: trauma, dissociation, connection, healing, empathy, hypnosis, therapy, vulnerability, non-verbal communication, intimacy Takeaways: Trauma can lead to dissociation and a fear of feeling real. Connection is essential for healing and transformation. Empathy and vulnerability are crucial in therapeutic relationships. Dehumanization can occur in families and society, impacting relationships. Hypnosis can facilitate connection and healing in therapy. Creating safe spaces allows for open communication and vulnerability. Non-verbal communication plays a significant role in therapy. Understanding the complexity of self and other is vital for healing. Intimacy in therapy requires both clinician and patient to be present. We all need to know that we exist and matter. Chapters: 00:22 Introduction to Transforming Relationships 02:09 Understanding Trauma and Dissociation 05:46 The Impact of Trauma on Connection 10:14 Creating Safe Spaces for Healing 14:37 The Role of Hypnosis in Therapy 19:19 The Importance of Bearing Witness 24:36 Intimacy and Vulnerability in Therapy 37:29 The Role of Vulnerability in Therapy 42:34 Understanding Nonverbal Communication 49:27 The Importance of Existence and Mattering 58:00 Navigating Shame and Humiliation 01:02:10 The Power of Presence in Therapy 01:06:15 Reflections on the Interview with Richard Chefetz   Follow Dr. Richard Chefetz:     General Info: www.richardchefetzmd.com Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com     For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com     Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    1h 19m
  3. Rabbis Ain & Weininger: Building Community & Kahal

    FEB 19

    Rabbis Ain & Weininger: Building Community & Kahal

    In this episode, Eric Spiegel and David Alter sit down with Rabbi Rachel Ain (New York City) and Rabbi Aaron Weininger (Minneapolis) to explore the transformative power of community. Together, they examine the concept of Kahal—the sacred gathering of diverse individuals—and what it means to truly show up for one another in moments of joy, grief, and crisis. Rabbi Weininger shares lessons from recent ICE actions affecting the Minneapolis community, while Rabbi Ain reflects on congregational life in New York following 9/11. Both discuss in personal ways their experiences as Rabbis leading their communities in the new landscape post-October 7th. The conversation explores how communities navigate polarization, identity, and difficult conversations while maintaining empathy, clarity, and love. They discuss why presence matters, how boundaries strengthen relationships, and why diverse perspectives enrich communal life. As one guest notes, "Community has the power to transform relationships." With this in mind, this episode asks: How do we build resilient communities capable of transforming relationships in emotionally and spiritually profound ways? Keywords: community, kahal, synagogue, faith leadership, Rabbi Rachel Ain, Rabbi Aaron Weininger, October 7th, 9/11, ICE Minneapolis, empathy, polarization, identity, relationships, resilience, grief and joy, interfaith dialogue, community crisis leadership Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guests: Rabbis Rachel Ain & Aaron Weininger Watch this and all of our podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships   Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com     For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com     Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    1h 1m
  4. Dr. Michael Osterholm: Facing Infectious Threats Together

    FEB 11

    Dr. Michael Osterholm: Facing Infectious Threats Together

    Dr. Michael Osterholm joins Transforming Relationships to explore how we can face infectious threats—together. In this powerful & emotionally resonant conversation, hosts Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter speak with one of the world's leading epidemiologists about the relational side of public health: how trust is built, how misinformation spreads, and how communities come together in the face of crisis. We look at what COVID-19 revealed about our vulnerabilities, what needs to change in our communication and preparedness, and how personal and community relationships shape our ability to respond to pandemics. Drawing from his decades of public health leadership, Dr. Osterholm discusses how trust, communication, and community relationships shape our ability to prepare for and respond to infectious diseases. The conversation dives into the impact of misinformation, the challenges of navigating a polarized public health landscape, and the lessons learned from COVID-19 that will shape future preparedness. This episode highlights why relationships—between individuals, communities, and institutions—are at the heart of effective public health. A timely, grounded, and deeply human conversation with one of the world's most respected voices in infectious disease. Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guest: Michael Osterholm Watch this and all of our podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships Keywords: Michael Osterholm, infectious diseases, epidemiology, public health, COVID-19, pandemic preparedness, virus mutations, misinformation, health communication, community trust, vulnerable populations, health equity, public health polarization, science communication, relational public health, community resilience, health messaging, disease prevention, trust in science, public health leadership Chapters 00:00 Pre-Interview Discussion 03:08  Introducing Dr. Michael Osterholm 05:44 Dr. Osterholm's Background and Experience in Epidemiology 08:32 The Impact of Infectious Diseases on Vulnerable Populations 11:33 The Role of Misinformation in Public Health 14:23 Understanding Virus Mutations and Pandemic Preparedness 17:07 The Polarization of Public Health Responses 20:04 Challenges in Communicating Public Health Information 22:08 Building Trust in Public Health Messaging 25:22 The Importance of Humility in Public Health Communication 28:35 The Need for Clear and Tangible Public Health Messaging 31:28 The Role of Community in Public Health 34:15 Addressing the Common Foe of Infectious Diseases 37:03 The Importance of Personal Relationships in Public Health 40:02 Final Thoughts on Public Health and Community Engagement 56:46 Post-Interview Discussion   Follow Dr. Michael Osterholm: Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP): https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/ Osterholm Update podcast: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/osterholm-update Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com     For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com     Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    1h 6m
  5. Renée DiResta (Pt.2) on Creating Trust in the AI Era

    FEB 6

    Renée DiResta (Pt.2) on Creating Trust in the AI Era

    This is the second part of our interview with Renée DiResta, author of 'Invisible Rulers', which explores the rampant and disruptive influence of misinformation and disinformation generators, and the reciprocal relationship with people who consume this social media content. In this episode, we discuss how influencers play a significant role in shaping public opinion; how generative AI complicates trust in media and information; how public health communication needs to adapt to modern engagement strategies; and how building trust requires face-to-face engagement, complex conversations, and good faith interactions. Hosts: Eric Spiegel, Ph.D. & David Alter, Ph.D. Guest: Renée DiResta Watch this and all of our podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships Keywords Renée DiResta, social media, misinformation, public health, algorithms, generative AI, trust, political dynamics, influencers, community engagement Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Pt. 2 of our Interview with Renee DiResta 01:52 The Collapse of Society and the Need for Leadership 03:06 The Vacuum of True Leadership 05:28 The Role of Online Influencers in Politics 08:08 Generative AI: An Accelerant of Misinformation 12:06 The Importance of Face-to-Face Engagement 16:09 Navigating Trust and Skepticism in Conversations 20:35 The Value of Complex Conversations 28:18 Building Trust in Public Health Communications Follow Renée DiResta:     General Info: https://reneediresta.com/     Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renee.diresta   Follow Dr. David Alter:     General Info: www.drdavidalter.com     For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:     General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com     Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    50 min
  6. 09/20/2025

    Episode 1: Welcome to TRANCEforming Relationships

    Relationships have the power to transform people's lives - individually and collectively, positively and negatively.  And this power can often be felt resonantly in the first few seconds of an interaction, through key factors like the tone of someone's voice and their non-verbal cues. Join co-hosts Dr. Eric Spiegel and David Alter - two seasoned health psychologists, relational therapists, and hypnotherapists - as they introduce you to a wide-ranging podcast about how trance forms in relationship, and how relationship transforms lives.   In this first episode, Eric and David will provide an overview of the many forms of relationship that contain elements of trance, and with them, the capacity for transformation.  These include our relationships with... Our neurobiology, where the role of curiosity, discovery, the known, and the novel are explored The process of change, a process deeply connected to the nature of trance and entrancing experience Ourselves, whether between mind and body, or between parts of self Our partners/spouses/friends, where themes of safety, security, attachment, and connection in the presence of difference are examined  The world of ideas, beliefs, attitudes, and fear, where the hosts explore polarization, alienation, demonization, and risk of violence The global wisdom traditions that speak to core truths about life, love, and connection that, sadly, we too often disregard at our own peril The world of nature and the larger world within which we all co-evolved, and how our evolutionary endowments still contain important keys for physical, emotional, mental, and relational health. Join us for a journey into the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Trance-forming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.   Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/37yhfWpKgD8   Learn more about Dr. Alter: https://www.drdavidalter.com/   Learn more about Dr. Spiegel: https://therapistsinphiladelphia.com/meet-us/eric-spiegel/ https://www.ericspiegelphd.com/

    45 min

Ratings & Reviews

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About

Transforming Relationships is a podcast about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. The hosts, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter, bring their decades of expertise as psychologists and hypnotherapists to this rich series. Relationships are the foundation of life. The podcast explores the profound role that relationships play— from the earliest bonds of attachment in childhood to the complex relational networks of influence in our culture, communities, politics, technology, and collective life. Through engaging discussions, Eric and David explore meaningful facets of being human and "in relationship." The podcast will feature two new episodes each month. Join us for a journey into the world of the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Transforming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.

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