Welcome to another episode of Trial by Fire, hosted by Julia Hensel. Trial by Fire is a podcast featuring women across the legal industry who stepped into ownership, built influential businesses and practices, and created careers on their own terms. In this episode, Brooke Birkey, founder of Level Up Law Firm Business Coaching, shares how working across nearly every area of a law firm, from administration and case management to sales, marketing, and intake, shaped her perspective on the role emotional intelligence plays in law firm growth. She explains why improving intake alone is not enough and why marketing, client communication, case management, and post-case relationships should be viewed as one connected client journey. Brooke and Julia discuss practical ways firms can build trust, create stronger handoffs, set clear communication expectations, use intake scripts without losing empathy, and maintain meaningful client relationships after a case ends. They also explore the growing role of AI, the importance of balancing efficiency with human connection, and how systems, accountability, and thoughtful simplification can help law firms create a stronger client experience and a more sustainable business. 00:00 Meet Brooke Birkey and Level Up Law Firm Business Coaching 01:28 Working Nearly Every Role Inside a Law Firm 03:08 Why Brooke Started Her Own Coaching Business 04:59 Emotional Intelligence and the Complete Client Journey 05:54 The Emotional Intelligence Mistakes Firms Make in Marketing 07:06 Why Marketing and Intake Should Work as One System 08:48 Does Your Client Experience Match Your Marketing Promise? 09:35 Emotional Intelligence Is More Than Just Being Kind 10:22 What Secret Shopping Reveals About Law Firm Intake 10:57 Why Intake Teams Need a Conceptual Script 12:24 Shifting From Internal Focus to the Client's Perspective 14:27 How to Turn Down a Case Without Losing Trust 16:59 Creating a Better Handoff From Intake to Case Management 17:59 Setting Clear Client Communication Expectations 19:51 How to Handle the Client Who Calls Every Day 21:02 Building Client Relationships That Last Beyond the Case 22:41 Creating the “I've Got a Lawyer” Relationship 23:45 Why AI Investment Should Be Matched With EQ Investment 24:55 AI Call Answering, Human Connection, and Client Trust 27:39 EOS, Systems, and Making Emotional Intelligence Stick 28:38 Why Law Firms May Need to Simplify Instead of Scale 30:42 The Most Rewarding Part of Business Ownership 31:12 Learning to Stay Flexible as an Entrepreneur About Brooke Birkey Brooke Birkey is the founder of Level Up Law Firm Business Coaching, where she helps law firms strengthen client experience and business performance through emotional intelligence, practical systems, and better communication. Drawing on experience across nearly every area of a law firm, including administration, intake, sales, marketing, and case management, Brooke developed a holistic approach that looks beyond individual departments to the entire client journey. Today, she helps firms identify gaps that can affect trust, leads, revenue, and client relationships while building stronger, more sustainable businesses. About Julia Hensel Julia Hensel is the host of Trial by Fire and the CEO of both Lexigate and Repspert, two companies built around helping law firms grow and thrive. She spends her days thinking about what makes a practice succeed, from the business side to the people behind it, and that work has given her a deep admiration for the women who take ownership. That admiration is what sparked this podcast. Trial by Fire is her space to sit down with women across the legal industry, hear their stories, and celebrate the grit, wisdom, and courage it takes to build something on your own terms. Subscribe for more conversations with women who are leading, building, and redefining success in the legal industry. #TrialByFire #WomenInLaw #WomenLawyers #WomenAttorneys