TRIGGERnometry

Excellent discussion on the problem of approaching immigration as a moral issue, Konstantin. My only quibble is your use of *we*. "We" (that is, the entire set of citizens) are not approaching the problem that way; a subset is approaching it that way, a subset comprising (also imprecisely) those who believe they have a right to tell others what they are allowed to believe and who have the cultural and governmental power to enforce that view and do so by slandering others. The dog-and-cat fracas over the reality in Ohio is the most recent prime example. Governmental elites have even begun to say the once-hidden part outloud, such as Nancy Pelosi asserting to Bill Maher that she wants undocumented immigrants to be documented, the impact on preexisting citizens be damned. I suspect this is a result of decades of globalization (not global free trade but global agreements trade). Western governmental elites have gotten rich engaging in the economies of other countries and have begun to see themselves as global citizens--seeking global government with the zeal of expecting that they will control it.

I don’t find this guy particularly bright or insightful. Does the British accent make him seem smarter to some ? I don’t get it.

The boys found fame by standing against the “woke” mob and as time went on they’ve subtly edited their definition of woke, having learned a trick or two from their ideological opponents, to mean anything that pushes against their philosophy of Anglo-centric jingoism. What was once a show that interestingly and intelligently discussed controversial issues has transformed into an advertisement for and defense of neoconservatism, which they’ve rebranded (quite wokely) as “the west” or “western values”. I find both hosts to be as uncurious and obstinate as the people they made a name for themselves by criticizing.

to Konstantin for his equanimity in the face of bad faith smearing right to his actual face. Why? Because I couldn’t do it. Saifedean was truly “possessed” in the manner Jordan Peterson describes in his discussions regarding ideologies. There was a narrative nexus that consumed Mr. Ammous and there were only demons to be exorcised from his opponent. I agree with JP also that an ideology is a crippled version of a religion that won’t stand scrutiny or the test of time. The redeeming feature of this debate? Good lessons can be learned from good and bad examples. Principle: God can draw a straight line with a crooked stick.