The Art Of Imperfect Adulting

Amy Stone
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Real life doesn't come with an instruction manual, and most of our stories don't fit neatly into highlight reels or cautionary tales. Welcome to The Art of Imperfect Adulting, where we explore the beautiful mess of real life decisions that shape who we become. In a world dominated by picture-perfect social media posts and dramatic reality TV extremes, this show carves out a space for the rest of us – the everyday adults working to figure things out as we go. Each episode features honest conversations with guests sharing their personal stories about the choices, changes, and challenges that defined their journey. These aren't stories of flawless triumph or epic disaster. They're real accounts of life's pivotal moments – both big and small. From choosing an unconventional path and setting unexpected boundaries to moving across the country or completely reinventing yourself, we dive into the decisions that seemed simple at the time but changed everything. Host Amy Stone brings warmth and authenticity to each conversation, drawing out the subtle turning points and quiet revelations that make up the tapestry of adult life. Whether it's a career pivot, a personal transformation, or simply choosing to do things differently, these stories remind us that there's no single "right way" to navigate life's challenges. What makes this show different? We celebrate the middle ground – the space where most of us actually live. Our guests aren't always gurus or influencers; they're real people sharing real experiences. They're the "adultier adults" who've walked similar paths and can offer insights from the other side of change. You'll hear about: The small decisions that led to big changes The moments of doubt and breakthrough The unexpected wisdom gained from "wrong" turns The reality of change versus the fantasy of perfection The ripple effects of choosing your own path Perfect for listeners who: Are navigating life's transitions Feel stuck between where they are and where they want to be Love hearing real stories from real people Are looking for inspiration without the pressure of perfection Want to feel less alone in their adult journey Join us for conversations that will make you feel seen, understood, and inspired to embrace your own imperfect journey. Because sometimes the best stories come from the moments when life doesn't go according to plan. Follow The Art of Imperfect Adulting wherever you get your podcasts and join us at http://www.imperfectadulting.com

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    Mental Health, Substance Use, and the Power of Connection with Lisa Smith

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Lisa Smith about her experience as a parent loving and supporting a son navigating substance use disorder and mental health challenges. Lisa opens up about the heartache, resilience, and hard-earned wisdom that comes from shifting from “fixing” to genuinely “loving” someone in active addiction. Together, Amy and Lisa dive into the realities of family stress, the limits of traditional support systems, and the power of radical acceptance and connection. About the Guest: Lisa Smith is the founder and CEO of Parallel Recovery, an organization providing comprehensive family recovery support for those impacted by substance use and mental health disorders. As a certified Peer Recovery Specialist with over 20 years of experience in education and family systems, Lisa brings deep expertise to her work empowering families on the parallel healing journey alongside loved ones. Main Topics Covered: Parenting a young adult in active addiction: shifting roles, boundaries, and hopesThe difference between “fixing” versus “loving” a child in crisisThe shortcomings of traditional support resources and the concept of “detaching with love”Family systems, shame, and societal stigma when a loved one struggles with substance useBuilding sustainability, resilience, and connection through radical acceptance and self-reflectionPractical communication strategies and the limits of advice versus lived experienceLisa’s creation of Parallel Recovery and the release of her new book Timestamps: [00:00:04] Welcome & Lisa’s life in Colorado [00:00:51] Transitioning from busy to downtime: walking dogs (without the phone!) [00:01:47] Lisa’s relationship with her son and the realities of substance use [00:06:27] Diagnosis, home dynamics, and early treatment attempts [00:08:10] Family stress and the myth of “lowering the temperature” [00:09:35] The “gut check” moment and finding clarity as a parent [00:12:52] Radical acceptance and learning to step back [00:14:37] The difference between “fixing” and “loving” in family conversations [00:18:19] Searching for resources and the problems with “detachment with love” [00:25:10] Internal work, research, and shifting the family system [00:31:27] The lack of support for families in the crisis cycle [00:35:06] Shame, societal judgment, and learning to separate behavior from identity [00:43:52] Lisa’s support philosophy, Parallel Recovery, and her new book [00:47:10] Knitting, cheese platters, and fun wrap-up questions Connect with the Guest: Website: https://parallelrecovery.com Instagram: @parallelrecovery Find Lisa’s Book, Parallel Recovery: A Guide for Those Who Love Someone with Substance Use Disorder, is now available on Amazon. https://a.co/d/fgmD9Vn If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes. Why...

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    How a Near-Death Experience Transformed My Life and Career with Sheryl Ramstad

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Sheryl Ramstad about resilience, life-changing trauma, and finding meaning through unexpected adversity. Sheryl shares the riveting story of surviving a solo plane crash at age 29, her arduous physical and emotional recovery in a burn unit, and the surprising turn her career and personal life took as a result. About the Guest: Sheryl Ramstad is a survivor, trailblazer, and lifelong advocate for service. She has had successful careers in law, healthcare, and teaching. Above all, she treasures her role as a mother to three adult children and grandmother to six. Sheryl resides in Minneapolis with her husband, Lee. "I would say that the prevalent thought I kept having was to not ask, why me? But what next? And that's what guided me throughout the rest of my decisions." — Sheryl Ramstad Main Topics Covered: Sheryl’s path from aspiring lawyer and pilot to surviving a fiery plane crash on her first solo flightThe intersection of elective change (choices) and changes thrust upon us by fateDetails of her crash, the critical actions that saved her life, and the realities of acute traumaThe long and disempowering recovery from burn injuries, and the power of friends, family, and faithHow the accident reshaped her identity, career, and drive—and inspired her late-in-life nursing careerThe importance of patient voices in medical care, and giving back as a way to healWriting her memoir and the role of honesty about faith in her storytellingEndurance running after burns, facing public curiosity, and building a full life beyond trauma Quote from the Episode: "I would say that the prevalent thought I kept having was to not ask, why me? But what next? And that's what guided me throughout the rest of my decisions." — Sheryl Ramstad Timestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome & intros; where Sheryl calls home [00:02:17] Surviving a plane crash at 29—Sheryl’s life before and after [00:05:02] Being a female pilot in 1979 and solo flight details [00:08:18] The crash, emergency decision-making, and escaping the wreckage [00:13:33] Trauma memory, hospitalization, and the emotional toll [00:17:24] Type A recovery struggles and loss of independence [00:24:20] Channeling adversity into a career in nursing and supporting burn survivors [00:28:40] Perseverance, faith, and support systems in healing [00:43:15] Could her growth have happened without the accident? [00:44:19] Writing Living Life Full Throttle—why and how [00:49:39] Integrating faith into her story [00:50:18] Book availability and final questions Find Sheryl’s Book on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/a/87491/9781960876805  Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly. Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe...

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    How One Woman is Building a Magazine for Indie Podcast Creators with Kathy Barron

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kathy Barron about launching a niche digital magazine for women podcasters, building creative community, and the realities of independent media. Kathy shares her unconventional journey into publishing, her motivations for centering and promoting women in the podcasting sphere, and her new initiatives to support indie creators at every stage. About the Guest: Kathy Barron is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of Women Who Podcast magazine, author of fiction and children’s books, and videographer. With a passion for supporting women podcasters  be successful in their craft, Kathy has become a trusted resource for women in podcasting. Women Who Podcast magazine celebrates women podcasters all over the world by giving them the accolades they deserve. Kathy is creating a safe space where women’s voices and stories matter. She strives to be a forum for fans and podcasters to reach out to one another for support, collaboration, and inspiration. Her vision is to create scholarships and mentorships to future podcasters, organize symposiums, and build a learning community.  Main Topics Covered: The inspiration behind Women Who Podcast Magazine and its unique focus on women in audio media.Kathy's creative background and unconventional entry into digital publishing.The challenges and rewards of sustaining both a magazine and a podcast as an indie creator.Why community-building and mentorship matter for women podcasters.The launch and goals of the Women Who Podcast Awards.Addressing representation, burnout, and the need for supportive spaces for indie women in podcasting.Exploring growth, collaboration, and how listeners can get involved. Quote from the Episode: "I want it to be personable. I want to talk to the podcasters. I want to hear their story... everyone has their own unique background, why they started their podcast, what their story is, and some of them are just hilarious. So I enjoy that part—to get to know the podcasters." — Kathy Barron Timestamps: [00:00:00] Meet Kathy Barron & her Bay Area roots [00:00:43] A recent compliment: the Women Who Podcast Awards [00:02:15] What is Women Who Podcast Magazine? [00:03:12] Starting the magazine: pandemic inspiration & building from scratch [00:05:15] Kathy’s creative background and confession: “I don't listen to podcasts!” [00:07:22] Podcast origins with Women Who Sarcast [00:10:44] Why a magazine versus other formats? [00:12:54] The power of personal interviews & tackling meaningful topics [00:14:33] Representation stats and the importance of women’s spaces [00:18:09] Startup story & early issues [00:20:52] Community, service, and supporting others through media [00:23:04] Why a scholarship/mentorship program matters [00:26:12] What keeps Kathy going as an indie creator [00:28:32] Hopes for magazine growth and mentoring new writers [00:30:19] How podcasters can get involved [00:32:03] The very first issue & honoring a lost friend [00:33:02] Growth, momentum, and the role of awards [00:33:50] Ways to support and engage with Women Who Podcast Magazine [00:34:52] Get to know Kathy: Fun questions and more! Connect with the Guest: Website: womenwhopodcastmag.comInstagram: @womenwhopodcastmagazine Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly. If you love the show and you'd...

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    Bridging Faith and Wellness with Nicole Havelka

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Nicole Havelka—burnout recovery coach, ordained pastor, and founder of Defy the Trend—about the journey from institutional frustration in religious administration to finding wholeness at the intersection of spiritual practice and organizational change. Nicole opens up about the realities of working in faith-based organizations, facing resistance as an innovator, navigating personal burnout, and how yoga, meditation, and a spirit of “both/and” led to her latest chapter as a coach and podcaster. About the Guest: Nicole Havelka believes you are inherently worthy of rest — no productivity required. She’s a burnout coach, mindfulness teacher and founder of the Defy the Trend coaching community, which supports helpers, healers, activists and artists in reclaiming rest as a radical act. With more than 20 years of experience in spiritual leadership and wellness, Nicole will soon launch Burnout Tips for Everyday Radicals: Just Rest for world changers who are tired but not giving up, a podcast for those resisting grind culture one deep breath at a time.  Main Topics Covered: Nicole’s career journey: from journalist to minister, then to burnout recovery coachThe inside story of church administration, institutional resistance, and advocating for organizational changeHow burnout showed up—and why yoga became a lifeline and “both/and” practiceThe importance of spiritual practice for navigating tough decisions and personal pivotsReclaiming faith and belonging: Nicole’s journey through disillusionment, leaving and returning to faith, and finding community againPractical discussions on salaries, money, and sustainability in religious workHow integrating yoga, meditation, and rest into leadership can support more humane organizationsThe launch of Nicole’s new podcast: Just Rest—Burnout Tips for Everyday Radicals Quote from the Episode: "What if it’s not either/or, but both/and?" — Nicole Havelka Timestamps: [00:00:05] Introductions and where Nicole calls home [00:01:22] Recent acts of kindness and everyday grace [00:03:11] Frustrations and burnout in faith-based administrative work [00:09:50] How Nicole became a denominational leader and the reality of church job searches [00:15:06] Evolving passions: from youth work to organizational change [00:20:07] Faith, the church, and leaving/returning to community [00:29:13] When journalism isn’t enough: becoming a participant, not just an observer [00:33:09] Returning to church and finding a new kind of home [00:34:43] Money talk: salaries and living as a faith worker [00:37:34] The parallel path of yoga: teacher training and integration with ministry [00:44:54] The both/and moment: when leaving doesn’t have to mean abandoning [00:47:26] Advice for those facing black-and-white decisions [00:49:54] Nicole’s current work, podcast, and where to connect [00:53:41] Fun wrap-up questions: coffee cake vs donut, favorite summer drink, friendship & support Special Offer from the Guest: Read more about her radical rest quest on her Substack newsletter, Just Rest, where you'll be the first to hear about the podcast launch and how to support it. www.defythetrend.substack.com. Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer, please reach out to the guest or vendor directly. Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here a href="https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

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    Behind the Scenes of Pitching a TV Show With No Experience with Kellie Grutko

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kellie Grutko about the winding roads of creative ambition, career pivots, and rediscovering purpose after corporate life. Kellie candidly shares the story of following her dream to pitch a TV travel show pilot, why it never made it to air, and how the lessons from that risk-taking adventure eventually led her to coaching women through major life and career changes. About the Guest: Kellie Grutko is a women’s transition coach and founder of Purposeful Pivot. With a professional background in marketing and media, Kellie now helps women translate decades of corporate experience into fulfilling new phases of work and life. Her journey from high-powered executive, to travel show dreamer, to empowerment coach inspires her mission to support others navigating big changes. Main Topics Covered: Kellie’s leap from corporate marketing to pitching a travel TV show pilot.The realities of navigating creative dreams outside one’s comfort zone and network.Lessons learned from “failure” and the value of trying, even if the project doesn’t take off.Identity, reinvention, and finding your next chapter after leaving a traditional corporate role.The importance of support systems, introspection, and celebrating small wins during transitions.How Kellie now guides women through similar transitions as a certified coach. Quote from the Episode: “A lot of people would have the idea and never even give it a shot. I looked at it as, you know, I had an idea, I followed through. It didn’t work, but I learned from it. I had fun doing it. And eventually, in a weird, like you said, thread kind of way, it led me to where I am.” — Kellie Grutko Timestamps: [00:00:04] Kellie’s background and move from Pennsylvania to Charlotte [00:01:34] Life and career at a Fortune 50 company; the origins of her TV show idea [00:08:59] Turning a dream into action: how Kellie developed, shot, and pitched her pilot [00:14:03] Financial realities, support from her husband, and staying motivated [00:21:03] The afterlife of a shelved project—accepting change and evolving goals [00:23:10] Transition coaching: redefining career and identity for women [00:28:22] Connecting the threads from past dreams to new purpose [00:32:59] Being brave, introverted, and going after what you want [00:33:39] Kellie’s business, Purposeful Pivot, and her “Celebrating Small Wins” offer [00:35:17] Fun closing questions: monkeys, turn signals, and thermostat negotiations Special Offer from the Guest: Creating Small WIns Worksheet  https://www.purposefulpivot.net/small-wins Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly. Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadulting  If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Click here and pitch yourself. Never Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more...

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    How to Recognize When It’s Time to Leave and Start Fresh with Katrina Sawa

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Katrina Sawa—Northern California-based business coach, author, and publisher—about the pivotal moments that led her to leave situations that no longer served her, from quitting a draining corporate job to making bold moves in her personal and professional life. Katrina shares how her clarity around self-worth and refusal to settle shaped her journey into entrepreneurship, and offers insights for anyone feeling “stuck” or undervalued in their work or relationships. About the Guest: Business Coach & Book Publisher, Katrina Sawa, is CEO of JumpstartYourBizNow.com and JumpstartPublishing.net. For over two decades, Katrina has been helping entrepreneurs of all kinds get more comfortable and clarity around marketing, pricing to their worth, packaging and selling themselves. As the creator of the Jumpstart Your Sales & Systems Bootcamp, International Speaker and International Best-Selling author with 22 books, she hosts and speaks at events, workshops and webinars online and in person all year long and she’s been doing it since 2002. Katrina lives in Northern California with her husband Jason, stepdaughter Riley and their loving dog Luna. She loves entertaining, cooking, wine tasting and speaking to groups of all sizes. Main Topics Covered: What it feels like to be in a job (or relationship) that’s no longer serving youHow workplace burnout and a lack of support catalyzed Katrina’s leap into entrepreneurshipThe role of intuition, self-worth, and risk-taking in moving forwardPractical support systems—from family help to lines of credit—that make transitions possibleIdentifying when you’re “settling” and why it’s okay (and necessary) to say noParallels between quitting a job, leaving a relationship, and ending a business offerNavigating unsupportive relationships and finding people who lift you upAdvice for anyone feeling stuck or undervalued in any area of life Quote from the Episode: “I want to empower people just to stop settling for not being totally happy. We deserve this. Life could be short. ... Let’s make it our happiest, most amazing life ever, with the right people around us, doing the things that we love and just embracing it all.” — Katrina Sawa Timestamps: [00:00:04] Warm welcome & where Katrina calls home [00:00:49] Katrina’s philosophy on kindness and real-life support [00:02:36] The experience that led to leaving her last job [00:07:03] Self-worth, intuition, and walking away from “bad bosses” [00:10:32] Laying groundwork for entrepreneurship: networking & coaching [00:12:11] The leap into business ownership: excitement, nerves, and risk [00:15:26] What settling feels like—patterns in work and relationships [00:17:39] The crucial role of family support and financial planning [00:19:48] Are you a risk-taker? Katrina’s perspective [00:22:23] Recognizing settling and trusting your gut [00:26:34] The gentle process of deciding it’s time to move on [00:28:31] Parallels in quitting jobs, relationships, and business offers [00:29:19] Money, letting go, and making room for better opportunities [00:30:10] Katrina’s work today—business coaching and book publishing [00:31:32] Fun questions: favorite TV, networking, and desert island meals Special Offer from the Guest: Get a free audio version of Katrina’s book Love Yourself Successful and explore resources for launching your own story via collaboration or solo publishing. Visit LoveYourselfSuccessful.com for more details. Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the...

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    How a One-Way Ticket Sparked a Solo Female Travel Adventure with Julia Chien

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Julia Chien—Vancouver-based registered dietitian and passionate world traveler—about the life-changing impact of booking a one-way ticket and embracing adventure after heartbreak. Julia shares her story of leaving behind a comfortable routine, overcoming the limitations of chronic eczema, and discovering both freedom and loneliness during her years of solo travel across Central and South America, Europe, and Asia. About the Guest: Julia Chien is a registered dietitian based in Vancouver, BC, specializing in holistic nutrition and the root causes of chronic inflammation. Through her own journey healing from eczema and building a location-independent business, Julia helps others find balance and empowerment in their health and careers. She is also an avid solo traveler, digital nomad, and advocate for growth through risk-taking and self-discovery. Main Topics Covered: What inspired Julia's decision to buy a one-way plane ticket to Costa Rica at the end of a long-term relationship.Navigating the healing journey from chronic eczema and what newfound health enabled Julia to do.The logistics, emotional experience, and practical strategies of working remotely while traveling solo through multiple countries.How spontaneous decision-making, risk-taking, and meeting new people shaped Julia’s self-discovery and spiritual healing.The challenges of being a digital nomad—including loneliness, burnout, finances, and adapting to different cultures.Insights into Julia’s work as a holistic dietitian and the unique pressures of entrepreneurship.Learning to nurture one’s own wellbeing and redefine what “home” and “success” mean. Quote from the Episode: “Traveling really showed me how much out there there is that we haven’t really seen as people... it was healing in the sense where I kind of finally was able to do things for myself, because I realized that I poured so much into my business... I started to not really do things for myself.”—Julia Chien Timestamps: [00:00:06] Welcome & intros; where Julia calls home [00:01:39] A one-way ticket to Costa Rica: the catalyst moment [00:02:20] Healing, heartbreak, and remote work: what led to travel [00:04:56] Leaving a healthy long-term relationship and mindset shifts [00:06:46] Booking the ticket: doubts, freedom, and practicalities [00:09:00] Choosing Costa Rica and first days as a solo traveler [00:12:02] Combining work and adventure as a digital nomad [00:14:25] From Costa Rica to Colombia: the spark for indefinite travel [00:16:47] How Julia chose her next destinations and the power of nature [00:18:25] Deciding how long to stay and returning home for milestones [00:19:57] Letting go of “home” and going all in as a digital nomad [00:21:48] Navigating logistics: connectivity, finances, and minimalism [00:25:43] Solo travel: from loneliness to community [00:27:11] Expanding to Europe and Asia: the full world tour [00:29:38] Living from a suitcase; how her travel rhythm evolved [00:31:13] Spiritual lessons, self-discovery, and redefining success [00:34:56] Adventures, risk-taking, and pushing boundaries [00:39:44] Could this transformation happen without travel? [00:41:57] Julia’s business, nutrition practice, and special offer [00:43:23] Fun questions & rapid-fire favorites Special Offer from the Guest: Journalling Guide for Busy Entrepreneurs  Value: $29 USD Special offer: FREE - https://julia-chien.mykajabi.com/journalling-guide Note from the show: Guest offers are often limited-time and limited quantity. If you have an issue redeeming the guest offer please reach out to the guest or vendor directly. Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect...

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    Hard-won Advice on Workplace Sabotage and Survival with JoNeil Conley

    In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with JoNeil Conley—Michigan-based nurse, organizational leadership expert, and self-described “bullyologist”—about the reality of workplace bullying in healthcare and beyond. JoNeil shares her personal story of facing intimidation, sabotage, and toxic leadership in the operating room, how she turned that experience into a research-backed crusade against bullying, and why “miracles can be found in the messes” of adult life. Together, Amy and JoNeil explore how individuals can recognize, document, and respond to bullying, and why no one is truly a “hot mess”—just someone moving through life’s most challenging chapters. About the Guest: JoNeil Conley is a nurse, coach, speaker, and organizational leadership expert from Alma, Michigan. After decades in healthcare—including ER and OR nursing, leadership roles, and earning her doctorate—she specializes in coaching women through life’s “hot mess” moments and is dedicated to helping individuals and teams navigate bullying and toxic environments with courage and clarity. Main Topics Covered: Navigating the geography, culture, and quirks of Michigan (and why it matters!)JoNeil’s journey from hands-on nursing to academic research on bullying in the operating roomThe anatomy of workplace bullying: sabotage, power dynamics, and the “executive bully”Why documenting facts (not just feelings) is critical for real change at workTurning a personal ordeal into a movement: JoNeil’s meanness matrix tool and doctoral research resultsThe enduring myth of “nurses eat their young”—how toxicity takes root in organizationsStrategies for protecting yourself from bullies, rude people, and narcissists (at work, at home, and beyond)The power of speaking up, building alliances, and surviving the “hot mess” seasons of adulting Quote from the Episode: “We have a tendency to call everything bullying…and that’s not true. Some people are just rude. The differentiation between a rude person and a bully is the bully is intentional—it’s about you.” — JoNeil Conley Timestamps: [00:00:05] Where JoNeil calls home: Michigan “the Mitten” and the UP [00:02:37] What brings JoNeil laughter—her grandbaby [00:03:18] Childhood, nursing origins, “joiner” tendencies, and leadership [00:08:35] On entering nursing, ER burnout, and the road to the operating room [00:10:57] Team dynamics, hierarchy, and the anatomy of a sabotaging bully [00:12:49] The incident that triggered JoNeil’s anti-bullying journey [00:18:21] Recognizing bullying patterns, toxic cultures, and why people stay [00:21:23] Turning experience into expertise: JoNeil’s dissertation and OR research [00:27:27] The meanness matrix—you can’t stop all bullying, but you can protect yourself [00:29:08] Power, influence, and the importance of documenting facts [00:31:13] The confrontation: documenting, courage, and turning the tables on a toxic CEO [00:39:16] How to document incidents (and why it matters in any environment) [00:41:43] JoNeil’s work today—coaching women through “hot mess” seasons [00:46:01] Rapid-fire: water preferences, books, Michigan travel, and haunted lighthouses Special Offer from the Guest: Hot Mess Hotline The Hot Mess Hotline is a one-hour, one-topic laser coaching session for women who are overwhelmed, stuck, or facing one of life’s “what now?” moments. Whether it’s burnout, a tough relationship, workplace chaos, or an identity shift, this session is your space to breathe, unpack what’s really going on, and leave with clear, doable next steps—and a whole lot more peace of mind. Value of the product offered: $97 Special offer for the listeners of the show: Audience of The Art of Imperfect Adulting can book their Hot Mess Hotline session for just...

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Real life doesn't come with an instruction manual, and most of our stories don't fit neatly into highlight reels or cautionary tales. Welcome to The Art of Imperfect Adulting, where we explore the beautiful mess of real life decisions that shape who we become. In a world dominated by picture-perfect social media posts and dramatic reality TV extremes, this show carves out a space for the rest of us – the everyday adults working to figure things out as we go. Each episode features honest conversations with guests sharing their personal stories about the choices, changes, and challenges that defined their journey. These aren't stories of flawless triumph or epic disaster. They're real accounts of life's pivotal moments – both big and small. From choosing an unconventional path and setting unexpected boundaries to moving across the country or completely reinventing yourself, we dive into the decisions that seemed simple at the time but changed everything. Host Amy Stone brings warmth and authenticity to each conversation, drawing out the subtle turning points and quiet revelations that make up the tapestry of adult life. Whether it's a career pivot, a personal transformation, or simply choosing to do things differently, these stories remind us that there's no single "right way" to navigate life's challenges. What makes this show different? We celebrate the middle ground – the space where most of us actually live. Our guests aren't always gurus or influencers; they're real people sharing real experiences. They're the "adultier adults" who've walked similar paths and can offer insights from the other side of change. You'll hear about: The small decisions that led to big changes The moments of doubt and breakthrough The unexpected wisdom gained from "wrong" turns The reality of change versus the fantasy of perfection The ripple effects of choosing your own path Perfect for listeners who: Are navigating life's transitions Feel stuck between where they are and where they want to be Love hearing real stories from real people Are looking for inspiration without the pressure of perfection Want to feel less alone in their adult journey Join us for conversations that will make you feel seen, understood, and inspired to embrace your own imperfect journey. Because sometimes the best stories come from the moments when life doesn't go according to plan. Follow The Art of Imperfect Adulting wherever you get your podcasts and join us at http://www.imperfectadulting.com

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