Turtle Talk

Aussie Turtles

Welcome to “Turtle Talk”, where timeless trend-following meets market outliers. Join our hosts Adam and Rich including the renowned original Turtle Trader Jerry Parker as we explore core principles, current debates, and expert insights to help traders navigate financial markets. Tune in for in-depth discussions and practical advice on trend following and Outlier Hunting.

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    Turtle Talk Podcast – Episode 010: Stocks, Outliers, and the Geometry of Trend

    Join Rich Brennan and Jerry Parker for Episode 10 of Turtle Talk, joined by special guest Cole Wilcox, CIO of Longboard Asset Management. No Adam this month, but a deep, wide-ranging conversation covering classic trend following, equity outliers, diversification myths, and why individual stocks may offer the cleanest expression of trend. In this episode: 📊 Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – December 2025 Review Classic Trend continues to separate from the pack, reaching new high-water marks while much of the CTA universe still lags prior peaks. We unpack dispersion, convexity, and why classic designs thrive when genuine trends emerge. 👉 Full report: https://www.aussieturtles.com/battle-of-the-trend-following-indexes-december-2025/ 📈 What’s Moved the Needle Gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and livestock trends take centre stage as multi-sigma moves remind traders where returns are actually made. The discussion cuts through daily noise to focus on long-horizon positioning, unrealised profits, and why parabolic moves signal fragility, not opportunity. 🎙 Spotlight Conversation – Cole Wilcox (Longboard Asset Management) A deep dive into equity trend following at the individual stock level. Cole explains: Why most stock market returns come from a tiny minority of companies Why indices dilute trend signals How trend following stocks differs structurally from futures-based CTAs Why long-duration trends, not activity, drive compounding The case for absolute momentum over cross-sectional rotation A rare, first-principles discussion on outliers, capitalism, and why trend following belongs inside equities. Learn more about Cole’s work: https://longboardfunds.com/ 📘 Feature Highlight – The Fractals of Finance Rich introduces his latest book, The Fractals of Finance, now available on Amazon, with a foreword by Jerry Parker. The book explores why markets are fractal, why averages mislead, and why trend following works because of structure, not prediction. 👉 Available now on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GHTH1WNK 🌐 Episode Resources Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – December 2025 https://www.aussieturtles.com/battle-of-the-trend-following-indexes-december-2025/ Longboard Asset Management https://longboardfunds.com/ The Fractals of Finance (Amazon) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GHTH1WNK 📩 Send questions for future episodes: https://www.aussieturtles.com/contact Closing Thought Markets are producing moves no backtest prepared us for. Outliers are no longer rare. Systems matter. Process matters. And survival still comes before prediction. Stay systematic. Stay patient. And may the trend be with you.

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    Turtle Talk Podcast – Episode 009: Outliers, Crises, and the Geometry of Trend

    Join Rich Brennan, Adam Havryliv, and Jerry Parker for a packed end of year episode of Turtle Talk. No guests this time, just the three of us digging into markets, exploring deep structural ideas, and sharing fresh insights from the worlds of trend following, diversification, and outlier hunting. This one is full of charts, data, lived experience, and a few laughs along the way. In this episode: 📊 Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – October 2025 Review Classic Trend Index edges back into positive territory for the year. We walk through the latest numbers, the recovery from the mid year drawdown, and why outlier oriented programs continue to pull away from their higher Sharpe peers. 📈 What’s Moved the Needle Violent retracements in precious metals, deep reversals in cattle, and cycle high yields in the Japanese bond market. Jerry, Adam, and Rich break down the charts and discuss why trading through the noise requires loose pants, strong rules, and zero emotion. 🐢 Extended Turtle Tidbits A four part deep dive featuring: • Why Outlier Hunters Win Across Full Cycles, including calm world vs rough world dynamics and the geometry of compounding • One Hundred and Twenty Five Years of Crisis, and what history reveals about market structure, drawdowns, and fat tails • Diversification for Outlier Hunting, and why classic trend followers play a different game • Is Trend Following an Infinite Money Glitch, and what truly drives long term robustness 💬 Shell Mail (Q&A) Listener questions on stability, fragility, valuation extremes, diversification, and how to think about trend following when markets appear to be defying gravity. 🌐 Episode Resources Classic Trend Index: https://classictrendindex.com Aussie Turtles: https://www.aussieturtles.com ATS Trading Solutions: https://atstradingsolutions.com Send your questions: https://www.aussieturtles.com/contact As our final episode for 2025, we want to thank every listener, supporter, and fellow trend follower who has joined us this year. From the three of us at Aussie Turtles, we wish you a very happy Christmas and a great New Year. We look forward to seeing you again when Turtle Talk returns in January. #TurtleTalk #TrendFollowing #OutlierHunter #AussieTurtles #SystematicTrading #JerryParker #CTA #MarketStructure

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    Turtle Talk Podcast – Episode 008: Battle of the Trends, Pyramids, and Outlier Hunting

    Join Rich Brennan, Adam Havryliv, and Jerry Parker for another deep dive into the world of systematic trend following. No guests this month – just the three of us exploring markets, myth-busting, and celebrating the launch of our new book The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide. In this episode: 📊 Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – September 2025 Review Trend followers surge back to strength as Classic Trend Index posts another standout month. We unpack what’s driving performance across the CTA landscape. 📈 What’s Moved the Needle Gold, Silver, and Platinum shake up the metals space while U.S. equities continue their relentless climb. Jerry shares how short-side stock trends and broad diversification keep portfolios robust. 🔍 MythBusters – Did the Turtles Pyramid? Jerry sets the record straight on one of the most persistent Turtle myths, explaining why spacing isn’t pyramiding and how disciplined risk sizing separates longevity from luck. 💡 Feature Spotlight – The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide Jerry flips the script and interviews Rich and Adam about their new book, the philosophy behind Outlier Hunting, and why mindset comes before mechanics in systematic trading. 💬 Shell Mail (Q&A) Listener questions on volatility targeting, fragility in trends, and how to think about robustness when markets compress. 🌐 Episode Resources: Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – September 2025: https://classictrendindex.com The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide (book): https://www.aussieturtles.com 📩 Send your questions for the next episode: https://www.aussieturtles.com/contact #TrendFollowing #TurtleTalk #SystematicTrading #AussieTurtles #OutlierHunter #JerryParker #Fractals #CTAPerformance #ClassicTrendIndex #VolatilityCompression

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    🐢 Turtle Talk Podcast: Episode 007 – Fractals, Expectancy, and Survival

    Join Rich, Adam, and Jerry as they dive deep into the structures that shape systematic trend following. No guests this month — just the three of us tackling big themes, fresh charts, and audience questions that get right to the heart of Outlier Hunting. In this episode: 📊 Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – August review: classic trend bounces back, but what lies beneath the numbers? 📈 What’s Moved the Needle – JGBs, Copper (US & LME), Gold, Silver, and Live Cattle take center stage. 🔍 Turtle Tidbits – Five heavyweight topics: Are markets fractal and are outliers inevitable? Expectancy vs Path Dependence – what really matters for survival? The Cut Back Rule – Jerry explains why it’s essential. Loose Pants – Jerry’s metaphor for risk and flexibility. High-Vol Trend Following – unpacking Seeking Alpha’s case for why it might be the most valuable alternative investment. 💌 Shell Mail (Listener Q&A) – Audience questions on diversification sizing, lost decades in trend following, and quantifying fat-tailed events. 🎙️ Plus: Rich defends path dependence, Adam challenges mandate mixing, and Jerry sharpens his myth-busting sword. 📚 Special Announcement: Our new book The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide is being released next week! It’s the flagship collection of philosophy, process, and practice behind the Aussie Turtles® approach. Stay tuned @ https://www.aussieturtles.com/ for launch details. 🌐 Episode resources and reports discussed: Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – August 2025: https://www.aussieturtles.com/battle-of-the-trend-following-indexes-august-2025/ Fractals, Diversification and the Myth of Dilution: https://atstradingsolutions.com/fractals-diversification-and-the-myth-of-dilution/ Are Markets Fractal? The Case for Maximum Diversification: https://atstradingsolutions.com/are-markets-fractal-the-case-for-maximum-diversification/ Expectancy vs Survival: Why the Outlier Hunter Thinks Differently: https://atstradingsolutions.com/expectancy-vs-survival-why-the-outlier-hunter-thinks-differently/ Beyond Expectancy: Protecting the Path of the Outlier Hunter: https://atstradingsolutions.com/beyond-expectancy-protecting-the-path-of-the-outlier-hunter/ High-Vol Trend Following – Most Valuable Alternative Investment: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4823294-high-vol-trend-following-most-valuable-alternative-investment 📩 Got questions for the pod? Send them in: 🔗 https://www.aussieturtles.com/contact #TrendFollowing #TurtleTalk #SystematicTrading #AussieTurtles #OutlierHunter #Fractals #JerryParker #Expectancy #CTAperformance

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    Turtle Talk Podcast – Episode 006: The NYC Getaway: Outlier Hunting

    This month’s Turtle Talk is a little different — Rich and Adam join Jerry Parker at his New York getaway for a face-to-face deep dive into the philosophy and practice of outlier hunting. Recorded on Labor Day, the trio reflect on market adventures, harbor cruises, and the heart of classic trend following. In this special episode, we skip the usual segments and go straight to the foundations: 🌍 Maximum Diversification – why spreading the net across hundreds of markets is essential for catching rare outliers. 📉 Volatility vs. Lifting Power – compounding drag, step-ups in equity curves, and why chasing smoothness can backfire. 🎯 Closed Trade Equity & Weak Compounding – why conservative sizing preserves robustness and avoids randomness. 🔍 Dynamic Position Sizing Debate – why selling into strength risks type-two errors and dilutes true outlier returns. 🐂 The Cattle Year – feeder cattle, cocoa, and how small markets often deliver oversized contributions. 💬 Classic vs. Modern Trend – Buffett, Munger, and the tension between concentrated conviction and wide diversification. 🎙️ Expect candid debate, laughs, and plenty of lessons as the Aussie Turtles and Jerry unpack what it really means to maximize CAGR through pure outlier hunting 📚 Coming Soon: The Aussie Turtles® Trend Following Guide – philosophy, process, and practice in one volume.

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    Turtle Talk Podcast Episode 005: Outliers, Recovery, and the Spirit of Classic Trend

    Join Rich, Adam and Jerry — this month joined by two special guests from the deep south — Bruno Campos (Brazil) and Andrés Petrocelli (Argentina) — as we explore the recovery phase in trend following and what sets outlier hunters apart from the rest. Note: Due to connection issues, Andrés was only able to join us for the introduction of the session. We look forward to having him back in a future episode for the full conversation. Bruno, a macroeconomist turned systematic investor, shares his journey from economic models to embracing uncertainty. We dig into the June trend following reports, challenge assumptions about diversification, and reflect on how outlier strategies diverge from vol-controlled approaches. In this episode: 📉 Battle of the Trend Following Indexes: June saw a bounce across the board — but will the recovery be V-shaped? 🌾 What’s Moved the Needle: Grains collapse, metals surge, and bitcoin breaks out — with feeder cattle stealing the show 🔍 Outlier Hunting vs. Vol Control: Are some managers slowing their own recoveries by taming tail risk? 🎯 Spotlight on Bruno Campos: From factor research to trend conviction — an economist’s pivot to price 💬 Mythbuster with Jerry Parker: “Is the S&P a good trend following system?” Jerry says absolutely not — and here’s why. 🎙️ Plus: Adam questions mixed mandates, Rich defends idiosyncratic exposure, and Jerry plots his next myth to slay. 📚 Coming Soon: The Aussie Turtles Trend Following Guide is nearly here — our flagship book of trend following philosophy, process, and practice. Stay tuned for the release! 📩 Got questions for the pod? Send them in: 🔗 https://www.aussieturtles.com/contact-us/ 🌐 Catch episode details and more at: https://www.aussieturtles.com/turtle-talk/ 📊 Reports discussed: • Battle of the Trend Following Indexes – June 2025 • Rising Stars and Trend Titans – June 2025 #TrendFollowing #TurtleTalk #SystematicTrading #AussieTurtles #OutlierHunter #ClassicTrend #JerryParker #BrunoCampos #AndresPetrocelli #MomentumEdge #QuantInvesting

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Welcome to “Turtle Talk”, where timeless trend-following meets market outliers. Join our hosts Adam and Rich including the renowned original Turtle Trader Jerry Parker as we explore core principles, current debates, and expert insights to help traders navigate financial markets. Tune in for in-depth discussions and practical advice on trend following and Outlier Hunting.

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