Two Founders Walk Into

Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti

One got fired. The other nearly went bankrupt. Naturally, they did the most illogical thing—built one of India’s fastest-growing Change Movements with 37,000 changemakers. On this podcast, Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti spill the secrets of leadership—sharp insights, harsh truths, and enough jokes to make HR nervous. Because great leadership isn’t built in boardrooms. It’s built in moments when everything goes spectacularly wrong.

  1. Jun 24

    It's Okay to Shut Down Your NGO | Dovetails's Amit Alex Antony Explains Why

    What does it actually take to get funded as an NGO in India and why are so many organisations pitching the wrong funders entirely? In this episode of Two Founders Walk Into, we sit down with Amit Antony Alex, Investment Director at Dovetail Impact Foundation, where he manages an international portfolio of social enterprises and impact organisations. Before Dovetail, Amit led investments at Upaya Social Ventures and headed enterprise grants at the UN Foundation's Clean Cooking Alliance giving him a rare vantage point from both sides of the funder-NGO relationship. This conversation goes deep on the structural realities of philanthropy in India: why the sector is maturing but still has a long way to go, what the 10x startup culture is doing to nonprofits, and why the most honest thing a social entrepreneur can sometimes do is shut their organisation down. Subscribe to our channel and never miss the latest episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@UCPichWEo9gwkwpABT8kgk9Q  Two Founders Walk Into Featured in FeedSpot's Top 25 Indian Leadership Podcasts  About Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti - They are the co-founders of U&I Trust and Change+.  About U&I - U&I is a nonprofit organization committed to transforming lives through education and community engagement. Our two core programs are U&I Teach and U&I Empower. U&I Teach provides after-school tutoring and mentorship to underprivileged children across India, helping bridge the education gap. U&I Empower creates volunteering opportunities for corporate employees, enabling them to give back through meaningful, impact-driven experiences. At the heart of U&I are our core values: #bethechange #bigaudaciousimpact and #inthistogether  About Change+ - The organization helps people become the leaders they’re meant to be. The leadership training journeys blend self-awareness, real-world practice, and people-first thinking, helping teams lead with clarity, confidence, and impact. From emerging managers to senior leaders, Change+ designs learning experiences that teach leadership.  Follow them on LinkedIn:  Ajit Sivaram - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajit4949/  Satish Manchikanti - https://www.linkedin.com/in/satish-manchikanti/  Visit our Website: https://uandi.org.in/  Volunteer With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/volunteer  Partner With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/csr  Work With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/hiring  Donate to our Cause: https://ui.danamojo.org/  Follow Us:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uandi.org.in/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/u&i-charity/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/uanditv  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04ZaR7HIvmqL5iG9wAAdV4  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-founders-walk-into/id1806002327 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/0a5b4559-645c-4b99-a556-adef1fab97c7/two-founders-walk-into  Timestamps: 00:00 — What excites Amit about where India is heading 02:30 — India's growth story and the two Indias 06:21 — Three things India's philanthropic sector needs to fix 08:21 — The funder-NGO power imbalance, explained 15:33 — How nonprofits can build towards scale the right way 18:01 — The controversial case for closing your NGO 19:36 — AI and its real (vs. hyped) potential in the social sector 22:03 — Career advice for young people entering the social sector 26:32 — Should funders pay for salaries? Unrestricted funding explained 29:03 — One change that would transform the nonprofit sector in 10 years #philanthropy #nonprofit #socialimpact #NGO #India #ImpactInvesting #TwoFoundersWalkInto #socialentrepreneur

    31 min
  2. May 25

    "I wasn't okay" | Jemimah Rodrigues Opens Up on Cricket, Family and Purpose

    What happens when one of India's brightest cricketers gets dropped not once, but twice and has to find a reason to keep going? In this deeply personal conversation, Indian Women's Cricket Team star Jemimah Rodrigues sits down with Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti of Two Founders Walk Into to talk about the journey that most people never saw: the anxiety attacks before matches, the 35 days of faking smiles, the tears on a flight back to Mumbai and the faith, family, and community that pulled her back every single time. This is not just a cricket story. It's a story about identity, belonging, and what it truly means to be part of a village. About Jemimah Rodrigues: She is an Indian international cricketer known for her explosive batting and joyful presence on the field. She plays for India Women's cricket team across all formats and represents Delhi Capitals in the WPL. She scored a match-winning 105* against Australia in the 2025 Women's ODI World Cup semi-final in Mumbai. Subscribe to our channel and never miss the latest episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@UCPichWEo9gwkwpABT8kgk9Q  Two Founders Walk Into Featured in FeedSpot's Top 25 Indian Leadership Podcasts  About Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti - They are the co-founders of U&I Trust and Change+.  About U&I - U&I is a nonprofit organization committed to transforming lives through education and community engagement. Our two core programs are U&I Teach and U&I Empower. U&I Teach provides after-school tutoring and mentorship to underprivileged children across India, helping bridge the education gap. U&I Empower creates volunteering opportunities for corporate employees, enabling them to give back through meaningful, impact-driven experiences. At the heart of U&I are our core values: #bethechange #bigaudaciousimpact and #inthistogether  About Change+ - The organization helps people become the leaders they’re meant to be. The leadership training journeys blend self-awareness, real-world practice, and people-first thinking, helping teams lead with clarity, confidence, and impact. From emerging managers to senior leaders, Change+ designs learning experiences that teach leadership.  Follow them on LinkedIn:  Ajit Sivaram - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajit4949/  Satish Manchikanti - https://www.linkedin.com/in/satish-manchikanti/  Visit our Website: https://uandi.org.in/  Volunteer With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/volunteer  Partner With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/csr  Work With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/hiring  Donate to our Cause: https://ui.danamojo.org/  Follow Us:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uandi.org.in/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/u&i-charity/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/uanditv  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04ZaR7HIvmqL5iG9wAAdV4  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-founders-walk-into/id1806002327 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/0a5b4559-645c-4b99-a556-adef1fab97c7/two-founders-walk-into  #JemimahRodrigues #TwoFoundersWalkInto #IndianCricket #WomensCricket #ICCWomensWorldCup2025 #Faith #Leadership #MentalHealth #Cricket #IndiaWomen #Podcast #Inspiration #VolunteeringIndia #CricketPodcast #IndianWomensCricket #WorldCupSemiFinal

    29 min
  3. Apr 21

    Bangalore Urban Planning Crisis: Why Your City Feels Broken in 2026 | Srikanth Viswanathan | Podcast

    What's really broken in Bangalore and how do we fix it? In this episode of Two Founders Walk Into, we sit down with Srikanth Viswanathan, CEO of Janaagraha, one of India's foremost urban governance experts. With 15+ years working with city governments, constitutional bodies, and citizen groups, Srikanth breaks down why Indian cities keep failing their residents and what a systems-level solution actually looks like. We cover: → Why traffic, pollution, and flooding are symptoms, not the real problem → The three city systems every urban leader must understand: planning & design, political ownership, and state capacity → Why Bangalore still doesn't have an elected mayor accountable to its citizens → How walkability could unlock clean air, public health, women's safety, and traffic relief, all at once → Tender SURE streets and what's already working in Bangalore → The citizenship ladder: how residents move from passive consumers to active contributors → The role of organisations like Janaagraha, U&I Trust as civic connective tissue → Srikanth's personal journey from Big Four consulting to systems-change nonprofit leadership → What genuine empathy looks like in leadership and why it took 15 years to learn If you care about Bangalore, Indian cities, civic participation, or building organisations that create lasting change, this episode is for you. Two Founders Walk Into is featured in FeedSpot's Top 25 India Leadership Podcasts. Follow us for conversations with thought leaders, urban thinkers, and civic changemakers building a better India.

    43 min
  4. Mar 10

    Zero Budget Marketing for Nonprofits: The People + AI Playbook | Sharene Joseph & Kiran George

    Can nonprofits create real buzz and drive impact without a marketing budget?In this episode, we unpack a practical playbook for zero-budget marketing in the nonprofit world. From leveraging passionate communities to empowering staff and using accessible technology, this conversation explores how organizations can amplify their voice even in a crowded digital landscape.The discussion focuses on people-powered marketing, community champions, and smart use of technology to create meaningful engagement and real-world impact.Whether you’re a nonprofit leader, communications professional, or social impact enthusiast, this episode offers practical, low-cost strategies to build visibility and momentum.Subscribe to our channel and never miss the latest episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@UCPichWEo9gwkwpABT8kgk9Q About Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti - They are the co-founders of U&I Trust and Change+. About U&I - U&I is a nonprofit organization committed to transforming lives through education and community engagement. Our two core programs are U&I Teach and U&I Empower. U&I Teach provides after-school tutoring and mentorship to underprivileged children across India, helping bridge the education gap. U&I Empower creates volunteering opportunities for corporate employees, enabling them to give back through meaningful, impact-driven experiences. At the heart of U&I are our core values: #bethechange #bigaudaciousimpact and #inthistogether About Change+ - The organisation helps people become the leaders they’re meant to be. The leadership training journeys blend self-awareness, real-world practice, and people-first thinking, helping teams lead with clarity, confidence, and impact. From emerging managers to senior leaders, Change+ designs learning experiences that teach leadership. Follow them on LinkedIn: Ajit Sivaram - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajit4949/ Satish Manchikanti - https://www.linkedin.com/in/satish-manchikanti/ Visit our Website: https://uandi.org.in/ Volunteer With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/volunteer Partner With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/csr Work With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/hiring Donate to our Cause: https://ui.danamojo.org/ Follow Us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uandi.org.in/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/u&i-charity/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/uanditv Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04ZaR7HIvmqL5iG9wAAdV4 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-founders-walk-into/id1806002327 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/0a5b4559-645c-4b99-a556-adef1fab97c7/two-founders-walk-into Timestamps:00:00 Introduction: Can nonprofits market with zero budget?02:05 Community as leverage: Fans and supporters as co-creators04:15 How nonprofits can activate volunteers as ambassadors05:30 Equipping communities with toolkits and campaign kits06:10 The “Purple Cow” concept and standing out creatively07:20 What nonprofits without large communities can do08:30 Employees and staff as powerful brand amplifiers11:00 AI tools and templates for scalable campaigns13:10 Accessing nonprofit discounts for marketing tools15:50 The role of AI in simplifying content creation16:10 The shift from “work speaks for itself” to storytelling16:30 Recap: The three levers of zero-budget marketing#podcast #genz #leadership #ngo #entrepreneur #management

    17 min
  5. Feb 3

    Why Young Indians Are Choosing Volunteering Today | Ajit & Satish | Podcast

    Volunteering in India is evolving and so is what it means to give back.In this episode, we explore why volunteering matters more than ever, especially for young people navigating purpose, identity and community in a rapidly changing world. From moving beyond a survival mindset to building meaningful connections, volunteering today is as much about personal growth as it is about social impact. Our guests share their journeys, unpack what truly sustains long-term volunteering and reflect on how service shapes leadership, belonging and agency. If you’ve ever asked yourself “Why should I volunteer?”, this episode is a great place to start. Subscribe to our YouTubechannel and never miss the latest episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@UCPichWEo9gwkwpABT8kgk9Q About Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti - They are the co-founders of U&I Trust and Change+. About U&I - U&I is a nonprofit organization committed to transforming lives through education and community engagement. Our two core programs are U&I Teach and U&I Empower. U&I Teach provides after-school tutoring and mentorship to underprivileged children across India, helping bridge the education gap. U&I Empower creates volunteering opportunities for corporate employees, enabling them to give back through meaningful, impact-driven experiences. At the heart of U&I are our core values: #bethechange #bigaudaciousimpact and #inthistogether About Change+ - The organization helps people become the leaders they’re meant to be. The leadership training journeys blend self-awareness, real-world practice, and people-first thinking, helping teams lead with clarity, confidence, and impact. From emerging managers to senior leaders, Change+ designs learning experiences that teach leadership. Follow them on LinkedIn: Ajit Sivaram - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajit4949/ Satish Manchikanti - https://www.linkedin.com/in/satish-manchikanti/ Visit our Website: https://uandi.org.in/ Volunteer With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/volunteer Partner With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/csr Work With U&I: https://uandi.org.in/hiring Donate to our Cause: https://ui.danamojo.org/ Follow Us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uandi.org.in/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/u&i-charity/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/uanditv Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04ZaR7HIvmqL5iG9wAAdV4 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-founders-walk-into/id1806002327 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/0a5b4559-645c-4b99-a556-adef1fab97c7/two-founders-walk-into Timestamps:00:00 – Intro02:15 – From Survival to Agency03:40 – Rameez's Journey: From Privilege to Purpose06:00 – Suchet’s Journey: When Service Became Identity07:45 – Why Volunteering Sticks 11:30 – The Evolution of Volunteering in India12:00 – Why Volunteers Say Yes12:50 – Making Volunteering Accessible13:30 – Psychological Safety & Support14:05 – Community and Belonging15:00 – Contribution, Connection, Co-Creation18:55 – How Nonprofits Can Start With Volunteers22:00 – I’ve Never Volunteered. Where Do I Start?26:00 – Final Reflections

    26 min

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One got fired. The other nearly went bankrupt. Naturally, they did the most illogical thing—built one of India’s fastest-growing Change Movements with 37,000 changemakers. On this podcast, Ajit Sivaram and Satish Manchikanti spill the secrets of leadership—sharp insights, harsh truths, and enough jokes to make HR nervous. Because great leadership isn’t built in boardrooms. It’s built in moments when everything goes spectacularly wrong.