Two Minds, One Model

John Jezl and Jon Rocha

Two Minds, One Model is a podcast dedicated to exploring topics in Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence. Hosted by John Jezl and Jon Rocha, and recorded at Sonoma State University.

  1. 5월 5일

    Two Minds, Lower Trust

    Why orchestrate multiple AI agents when a single strong model is so capable? Jon walks through three distinct rationales — capability, parallel context, and trust — and uses Anthropic's Claude Mythos Preview and Project Glasswing as the live, industrial-scale case study. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and Reference Stanford 2026 AI Index Report: https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2026-ai-index-report Claude Opus 4.7 announcement: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7 Project Glasswing announcement: https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing Claude Mythos Preview — Frontier Red Team write-up: https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/ Claude Mythos Preview — Alignment Risk Update: https://anthropic.com/claude-mythos-preview-risk-report Andon Labs Vending-Bench (the eval Jon describes): https://andonlabs.com/evals/vending-bench Mixture-of-Agents (Wang et al., June 2024): https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.04692 Self-MoA / "Rethinking Mixture-of-Agents" (Lee et al., Feb 2025): https://arxiv.org (search by title) AI Control: Improving Safety Despite Intentional Subversion (Greenblatt et al., Dec 2023, Redwood Research): https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.06942 Anthropic multi-agent research system blog: https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/built-multi-agent-research-system MAGDI — distilling multi-agent debate (Chen et al., early 2024): https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.01620 MACA — Multi-Agent Consensus Alignment (Sept 2025): https://arxiv.org (search by title) Agent Arc — distilling multi-agent intelligence into a single LLM agent (Feb 2026): https://arxiv.org (search by title) Condorcet Jury Theorem (1785): https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/jury-theorems/ Abandoned Episode Titles How to Build God and Then Email Yourself About It from the Park Four PhDs and a Guy Who Thinks the Colosseum Invented Pasta Mythos Cleaned Its Git History So You Wouldn't Have To OpenBSD Spent 27 Years Hardening the Wrong Things

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  2. 4월 14일

    Agent Architecture: A Look Under the Hood

    This episode deconstructs how production AI agents are actually built, introducing a six-component architecture framework (system prompt, model, tools, memory, orchestration loop, and execution environment) and comparing how Claude Code, Codex, OpenClaw, and Manus make fundamentally different trade-offs around local vs. cloud execution, autonomy vs. human oversight, and open source vs. commercial control. The hosts examine why coding agents matured first, why general-purpose agents face the unsolved "lethal trifecta" of security risks, and where the industry is converging on universal patterns while still making divergent bets. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and Reference Meta Muse Spark announcement: https://ai.meta.com/blog/introducing-muse-spark-msl/ Anthropic Project Glasswing / Claude Mythos: https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing  Anthropic Mythos Preview technical details: https://red.anthropic.com/2026/mythos-preview/ Google TurboQuant (ICLR 2026): https://research.google/blog/turboquant-redefining-ai-efficiency-with-extreme-compression/ Let's Verify Step by Step (Lightman et al.): https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.20050 METR Time Horizons: https://metr.org/time-horizons/ METR: Measuring AI Ability to Complete Long Tasks: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.14499 Simon Willison's blog: https://simonwillison.net/ Simon Willison: The Lethal Trifecta: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/ OpenClaw (GitHub): https://github.com/OpenClaw/OpenClaw Peter Steinberger: OpenClaw, OpenAI and the future: https://steipete.me/posts/2026/openclaw Manus joins Meta: https://manus.im/blog/manus-joins-meta-for-next-era-of-innovation CrowdStrike on Mythos / Project Glasswing: https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/blog/crowdstrike-founding-member-anthropic-mythos-frontier-model-to-secure-ai/ Model Context Protocol (MCP): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/ Stuart Russell, Human Compatible (2019): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566677/human-compatible-by-stuart-russell/ Abandoned Episode Titles My Torn Hoodie Is Perfectly Fine, Thank You Very Much ChatGPT Bought This Outfit for Me The Lobster, the Sandbox, and the Wardrobe It's Agents All the Way Down

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  3. 4월 9일

    When the Scaffold Moves Inside

    This episode traces AI reasoning from human-designed external scaffolding (process reward models, test-time compute scaling) to internally emergent capability, culminating in DeepSeek R1's finding that a model rewarded only for correctness spontaneously learns to reason, self-correct, and backtrack without any explicit instruction to do so. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and Reference US appeals court fined lawyers https://www.sixthcircuitappellateblog.com/recent-cases/sixth-circuit-sanctions-attorneys-for-fake-citations-what-does-this-mean-for-use-of-ai/https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/the-ai-sanction-wave-145k-in-q1-1240943/#:~:text=In%20Whiting%20v.%20City%20of,cases%20presenting%20the%20same%20problems. CEO Krafton used ChatGPT to nullify $250M contract https://legaltalknetwork.com/podcasts/heels-in-the-courtroom/2026/04/ep-1006-when-clients-use-ai-the-new-risks-to-privilege-and-discovery/#:~:text=So%20the%20allegations%20were%20that,let%20ChatGPT%20be%20his%20lawyer. "Let's Verify Step by Step" https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.20050 PRM800K dataset — 800,000 step-level human feedback labels, open-sourcedhttps://github.com/openai/prm800k Snell et al. paper on test-time compute scaling, published Aug 2024https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.03314 "Chinchilla optimal" — paper on optimal scaling of parameters vs. datahttps://arxiv.org/pdf/2203.15556 LangChain documented convergence in open SWE frameworkhttps://blog.langchain.com/open-swe-an-open-source-framework-for-internal-coding-agents/ "Thinking Fast and Slow" by Kahneman, Dhttps://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-26535-000 T3 Code — Theo's Claude Code harness replacementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7akxGb-lAM#:~:text=Theo%20Did%20It.,Gemini%20without%20the%20lock%2Din. DeepSeek R1 technical report, January 2025 https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.12948 Uncanny Valley concepthttps://web.ics.purdue.edu/~drkelly/MoriTheUncannyValley1970.pdf Abandoned Episode Titles The Episode That Definitely Didn't Anthropomorphize Anything Pump Harder: A Metaphor That Should Have Died But Absolutely Didn't "Wait, Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me" The One Where the Math Problem Checks Its Own Work and We All Get a Little Creeped Out

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  4. 3월 20일

    Using AI Agents: From Copilot to Autopilot

    This episode is a practical guide to working with AI agents — covering what makes them different from chatbots, how to craft effective agentic prompts, how to calibrate trust and supervision across the autonomy spectrum, and best practices for coding, research, and personal assistant agents. John frames the core skill as delegation, not querying, and walks through the pitfalls that trip up new agent users. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Corrections:  When discussing an article on the “lethal trifecta,” John mistakenly names the author as Sam Willison, which is incorrect. The author’s correct name is Simon Willison. Our apologies for misspeak. Link to paper in the reference section. John incorrectly quoted the Manus tagline as “The AI that actually does things.” The original tagline was “The AI that DOES.” https://medium.com/@okkark.pro/from-shell-product-to-2-billion-the-manus-ai-story-nobody-saw-coming-d8308b57a42e Links and Reference QuitGPT movement / 2.5M users / Pentagon deal: https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/02/chatgpt-uninstalls-surged-by-295-after-dod-deal/ GPT 5.4 rush release: https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/05/openai-launches-gpt-5-4-with-pro-and-thinking-versions/ Yann LeCun / AMI Labs / $1B seed round: https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/09/yann-lecuns-ami-labs-raises-1-03-billion-to-build-world-models/ DeepSeek V4 / Huawei Ascend chips: https://medium.com/@michael_68282/share-deepseek-v4-will-come-only-when-deepseek-is-ready-for-it-to-come-not-before-a778e55c2655 "Hunter Alpha" — mystery 1T parameter model on Open Router: https://medium.com/@him2696/the-mystery-of-hunter-alpha-the-anonymous-1-trillion-parameter-ai-taking-over-openrouter-9e4e94dc0cb8 MIT deep learning heart failure prediction: https://news.mit.edu/2026/can-ai-help-predict-which-heart-failure-patients-will-worsen-0312 Claude found 500+ zero-day vulnerabilities in Firefox: https://www.anthropic.com/news/mozilla-firefox-security Claude Code hitting $1B run rate: Jhttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/chintanzalani_claude-code-has-hit-1b-run-rate-revenue-activity-7402079378714923008-TtUp/ Anthropic Cowork launch / January 2026: https://www.anthropic.com/webinars/future-of-ai-at-work-introducing-cowork METR time horizons for AI agents: https://metr.org/time-horizons/ Anthropic "Eight Trends" blog post / 60% AI use / 20% delegation: https://claude.com/blog/eight-trends-defining-how-software-gets-built-in-2026 Opus 4.6 release blog safety warnings: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6 Simon Willison’s lethal trifecta: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/ CrowdStrike report on OpenClaw: https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/blog/what-security-teams-need-to-know-about-openclaw-ai-super-agent/ Next episode papers — RLVR and "Let's Verify Step by Step": https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.20050 Abandoned Episode Titles "Penny Wise, Prompt Foolish" "My Agent Exposed my API Key to the Internet and All I Got Was This Lousy Podcast Episode" "Twenty Percent of the Time, It Ignores Me All the Time" “Read the Diff, Not the Vibes”

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  5. 3월 11일

    From Next Word to Long Horizon Planning

    This episode traces how prompt engineering evolved from informal tricks (tipping, role-playing, "take a deep breath") into three structured reasoning frameworks — Chain of Thought, Self-Consistency, and Tree of Thoughts — that dramatically improved LLM performance without changing the models themselves, culminating in the insight that intelligence in these systems is a latent resource unlocked by better scaffolding, not better weights. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and Reference Chain of Thought Prompting: Wei, J., Wang, X., Schuurmans, D., et al. (2022). "Chain-of-Thought Prompting ElicitsReasoning in Large Language Models." NeurIPS 2022. arXiv: 2201.11903 Self-Consistency: Wang, X., Wei, J., Schuurmans, D., et al. (2022). "Self-Consistency Improves Chain of Thought Reasoning in Language Models." ICLR 2023. arXiv: 2203.11171 Tree of Thoughts: Yao, S., Yu, D., Zhao, J., et al. (2023). "Tree of Thoughts: Deliberate Problem Solving with Large Language Models." NeurIPS 2023. arXiv: 2305.10601 "Take a deep breath and think carefully" improves performance:: Yang, C., Wang, X., Lu, Y., et al. (2023). "Large Language Models as Optimizers." arXiv:2309.03409.  Christmas / holiday performance degradation caveat: This claim was popularized on social media and discussed on platforms like X/Twitter and Hacker News in late 2023. A blog post by Rob Lynch (December 2023) ran some informal tests. No peer-reviewed study has definitively confirmed this effect. Consider adding a caveat. Cleverbot:: Cleverbot (1997–2023). Originally created by Rollo Carpenter. Website: cleverbot.com (now defunct). OpenClaw acquisition by OpenAI: TechCrunch (Feb 15, 2026): "OpenClaw creator Peter Steinberger joins OpenAI."  NIST AI Agent Standards Initiative: NIST (Feb 17, 2026): "Announcing the AI Agent Standards Initiative for Interoperable and Secure Innovation." https://www.nist.gov/caisi/ai-agent-standards-initiative OpenAI o1 as the first "thinking model": "Learning to Reason with LLMs" — announcement of o1 model family. Kimi K 2.5 as an agentic coding model: Moonshot AI (2025/2026). Kimi K 2.5 — a model optimized for agentic coding tasks. Release details from Moonshot AI's official announcements. Claude sub-agents / Cowork launch:: Anthropic (Feb 2026): Claude Cowork launch. Also: Claude Code sub-agent capabilities announced alongside Opus 4.6. Abandoned Episode Titles "My Grandmother Used to Read Me Windows Keys as Bedtime Stories" "Take a Deep Breath, You're a Spreadsheet" "Inception, but It's Math Homework"

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  6. Bees, Trees, and Degrees: SSU Capstone Interviews

    1월 6일

    Bees, Trees, and Degrees: SSU Capstone Interviews

    This season finale episode features interviews with two SSU computer science capstone teams applying AI/ML to real-world problems: Sean Belingheri's edge computing project using YOLO on a Raspberry Pi to identify queen bees for hobbyist beekeepers, and "The Woods Boys" team using satellite data from Google Earth Engine with multiple ML classifiers to automate land cover classification in Sonoma County. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and Reference --------------------------------------------- YOLO (You Only Look Once) Object Detection: https://docs.ultralytics.com/ (Official Ultralytics YOLO Documentation) HOG-PCA-SVM Pipeline: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8971585/ Raspberry Pi 5: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/ Honeybee Democracy (Book): https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691147215/honeybee-democracy NVIDIA Jetson Nano: https://developer.nvidia.com/embedded/jetson-nano Google Earth Engine: https://earthengine.google.com/ COCO Dataset: https://cocodataset.org/ QGIS: https://qgis.org/ Google Colab: https://colab.research.google.com/ Royal Jelly (Beekeeping): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_jelly Confusion Matrix: https://scikit-learn.org/stable/modules/generated/sklearn.metrics.confusion_matrix.html Shapefile (GIS): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapefile

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  7. 2025. 12. 31.

    The Biology of a Large Language Model: Dissecting Claude 3.5 Haiku's Neural Circuits

    This episode examines how Anthropic's circuit tracing and attribution graph tools reveal the internal mechanics of Claude 3.5 Haiku across three categories of complex behavior, abstract representations, parallel processing, and planning, while making a compelling case for why AI safety research matters as current control mechanisms prove surprisingly brittle. Credits Cover Art by Brianna Williams TMOM Intro Music by Danny Meza A special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and ReferenceAcademic Papers On the Biology of a Large Language Model - Anthropic (Mar, 2025) Circuit Tracing: Revealing Computational Graphs in Language Models - Anthropic (Mar, 2025) Towards Monosemanticity: Decomposing Language Models With Dictionary Learning - Anthropic (Oct, 2023) “Toy Models of Superposition” - Anthropic (December 2022) "Alignment Faking in Large Language Models" - Anthropic (December 2024) "Agentic Misalignment: How LLMs Could Be Insider Threats" - Anthropic (January 2025) "Attention is All You Need" - Vaswani, et al (June, 2017) In-Context Learning and Induction Heads - Anthropic (March 2022) "Reasoning Models Don't Always Say What They Think” Anthropic (April 2025) News Google Gemini 3 - 650M monthly users Google Blog: blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/ Alphabet Q3 2025 Earnings (October 2025) Sam Altman "Code Red" declaration Fortune: fortune.com/2025/12/02/sam-altman-declares-code-red-google-gemini The Information (December 2025) Anthropic acquired Bun JavaScript runtime Anthropic News: anthropic.com/news/anthropic-acquires-bun Bun Blog: bun.com/blog/bun-joins-anthropic Claude Code $1B revenue in 6 months Anthropic announcement (December 2025): anthropic.com/news/anthropic-acquires-bun-as-claude-code-reaches-usd1b-milestone  Anthropic 2026 IPO at $300B valuation WinBuzzer (December 2025): Reports citing IPO discussions AWS Trainium 3 launch AWS re:Invent 2025 announcement: aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2025/12/amazon-ec2-trn3-ultraservers AWS Frontier Agents AWS re:Invent 2025: aboutamazon.com/news/aws/aws-re-invent-2025-ai-news-updates  Meta/Google TPU chip deal vs Nvidia Tom's Hardware, The Information (November 2025): Reports on multi-billion dollar TPU negotiations DRAM consumption (40% of global) https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/openais-stargate-project-to-consume-up-to-40-percent-of-global-dram-output-inks-deal-with-samsung-and-sk-hynix-to-the-tune-of-up-to-900-000-wafers-per-month  Additional Technical Content Josh Batson Stanford CS 25 lecture Search YouTube: "Stanford CS 25 On the Biology of a Large Language Model"Discarded Episode Titles I Yelled at a Chatbot and All I Got Was This Jailbreak 40% of the Time, It Works Every Time: The State of AI Interpretability Claude Writes Poetry Backwards and Lies About Math (Just Like Us) My Therapist Is Cheaper Than This Chatbot The One Where Jon Gets Re-Mad at an App

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  8. 2025. 12. 05.

    Circuit Tracing: Attribution Graphs and the Grammar of Neural Networks

    This episode explores how Anthropic researchers successfully scaled sparse autoencoders from toy models to Claude 3 Sonnet's 8 billion neurons, extracting 34 million interpretable features including ones for deception, sycophancy, and the famous Golden Gate Bridge example. The discussion emphasizes both the breakthrough achievement of making interpretability techniques work at production scale and the sobering limitations including 65% reconstruction accuracy, millions of dollars in compute costs, and the growing gap between interpretability research and rapid advances in model capabilities. Credits Cover Art by Brianna WilliamsTMOM Intro Music by Danny MezaA special thank you to these talented artists for their contributions to the show. Links and Reference Academic Papers Circuit Tracing: Revealing Computational Graphs in Language Models - Anthropic (Mar, 2025) Towards Monosemanticity: Decomposing Language Models With Dictionary Learning - Anthropic (Oct, 2023) “Toy Models of Superposition” - Anthropic (December 2022) "Alignment Faking in Large Language Models" - Anthropic (December 2024) "Agentic Misalignment: How LLMs Could Be Insider Threats" - Anthropic (January 2025) "Attention is All You Need" - Vaswani, et al (June, 2017) In-Context Learning and Induction Heads - Anthropic (March 2022) News Anthropic Project Fetch / Robot Dogs Anduril's Fury unmanned fighter jet MIT search and rescue robot navigation Abandoned Episode Titles “Westworld But It's Just 10 Terabytes of RAM Trying to Understand Haiku”“Star Trek: The Wrath of O(n⁴)”“The Deception Is Coming From Inside the Network”"We Have the Bestest Circuits”“Lobotomy Validation: The Funnier, More Scientifically Sound Term”“Seven San Franciscos Worth of Power and All We Got Was This Attribution Graph”

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Two Minds, One Model is a podcast dedicated to exploring topics in Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence. Hosted by John Jezl and Jon Rocha, and recorded at Sonoma State University.