Two Point Perspective

Elizabeth Vagnoni

Two Point Perspective brings together two riders from very different eras of the sport: Elizabeth “Lizzo,” a former 1970s junior rider now actively navigating today’s modern, high-pressure show world, and Reynolds, a millennial adult amateur, new mother, and equine insurance agent who grew up doing the hands-on work and now sees firsthand how the system has changed. Together, they explore the conversations riders are actually having — and the ones most people avoid. Tradition and technology. Horsemanship and convenience. Trainer dynamics. Accessibility. Show costs. Social media pressure. Generational shifts in riding culture. And what it really takes to stay engaged in a sport shaped by history and sharpened by its audience. Real talk from real riders — grounded in one sport and a shared passion.

  1. 3일 전

    USEF Town Hall: What Riders Heard vs. What USEF Said

    This week on Two Point Perspective, we break down the public USEF town hall and the larger conversation happening across the hunter/jumper industry. From trainer pressure and rising costs to communication, governance, trust, and the growing disconnect many riders feel, this episode looks at what was actually said — and what riders may have heard underneath it. We attended the town hall, recorded the discussion, and pulled together the moments that felt most important to the people actually living this sport every day. Because for many riders, this conversation is no longer just about horse shows. It’s about the future of the sport itself. Also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/euWeNlg1Sb4 Audio note: This episode was recorded live during a public town hall, so audio quality may vary in some sections.

    1시간 1분

  2. 5월 14일

    When the Barn Becomes More Than the Sport

    There’s still a lot of conversation happening around the sport right now — governance, frustration, access, fairness, cost, and where things are headed. But this week’s episode goes somewhere a little different. After going with Reynolds to her final chemo treatment, Elizabeth found herself thinking less about the structure of the sport and more about the people inside it — and why horses become so personal for so many adult amateurs over time. Because at a certain point, the barn stops being only about competition. It becomes part of how people live their lives.

    11분

  3. 5월 7일

    Who Gets a Say in the Sport?

    Last episode, we talked about how decisions get made — and what happens when they don’t line up. This week, we sat down with Chris Wynne to talk about why trainers are starting to organize, what they think needs to change, and how those decisions affect riders, horse shows, costs, and the future of the sport. This isn’t about having all the answers. It’s about understanding why this conversation is happening now. Companies mentioned in this episode: USFYousefUSHJAUnited States Equestrian Trainers AssociationDeluise StrongDaniel GeithnerCarlton Brookshits

    29분

  4. 4월 30일

    It Sounds Simple—Until You’re the One Deciding

    This week didn’t go the way anyone expected. After an EHV-1 case at HITS Culpeper, the Virginia Horse Center made an initial decision to keep certain horses away from the upcoming shows. Then USEF clarified that only they had the authority to restrict entries. And from there, things didn’t get clearer—they got harder. Trainers had to decide whether to go or stay home. Clients had to decide whether to follow that decision. And in the end, the show was canceled anyway. This episode isn’t about who was right. It’s about what happens when authority, responsibility, and trust don’t line up—and how those decisions actually get made in real time. Because it sounds simple… until you’re the one deciding.

    8분

  5. 4월 23일

    What It Takes to Run a Program

    Last week, we talked about the size and value of the sport—and how it’s built from a lot of small, often invisible pieces. This week, we take that one step further. Because all of that structure… all of those moving parts… don’t exist on their own. They land on someone. And that’s the professional running the program. In this episode, I walk through what that actually looks like now. Not just teaching. But managing clients, staff, schedules, horses, expectations—and the constant decisions that come with it. Some of those decisions are obvious. Some aren’t. From whether to go to a horse show when there’s a health risk… to how (or whether) a lesson program can even work as a business… It’s not as straightforward as it seems. I also share a perspective that came back to me after last week’s episode— one that adds another layer to the conversation around lesson programs and the idea of a “pipeline” into the sport. Because while losing those programs is a loss for the sport… the reality behind them is more complicated. And that complexity matters. Especially as new conversations start to take shape around the role of professionals, including the emergence of a new organization built around professionals, by professionals—and the upcoming town hall aimed at addressing some of these questions more directly. This isn’t about having answers. It’s about understanding the structure—and the people holding it together.

    11분

  6. 4월 16일

    Why This Sport Is Bigger Than It Looks

    We’ve been talking a lot about the cost of this sport. But this week, we looked at it differently. A recent post put the equestrian industry at over $300 billion a year. On paper, that makes it larger than most major sports. And yet, it rarely shows up in the same conversations. So why is that? In this episode, we break down what’s actually behind that number—and why it doesn’t look the way people expect it to. Because this isn’t a spectator-driven sport. It runs on participation. It’s not one big number. It’s thousands of smaller ones, happening all the time. And once you start to see it that way, the economics of the sport make a lot more sense.

    19분

  7. 4월 9일

    The Cost of the Sport — And What It’s Doing to Riders

    We talk a lot about how expensive this sport has become. But what does that actually mean? In this episode, we look beyond the financial side of rising costs in horse showing and ask a bigger question: what is it doing to the rider? As the sport becomes more structured—with increased reliance on trainers, grooms, and managed programs—the system is evolving in ways that create consistency and reduce risk. But that shift may also be changing how riders develop, and who gets the opportunity to start in the first place. We also discuss the disappearance of lesson programs and what that means for beginners trying to enter the sport today. If access is narrowing while costs continue to rise, what does that mean for the future? This isn’t about blaming the system—it’s about understanding what it’s producing. Because it’s not just producing rounds. It’s producing riders.

    35분

  8. 4월 2일

    When “Moving Up” Gets Complicated

    We talk a lot about “moving up” in this sport — and lately, there’s been a lot of conversation around whether riders are moving up too soon. But the reality is more complicated than that. There was a time when readiness felt more clearly defined. You either could do something, or you couldn’t. Today, with more divisions, more options, and more pathways, that clarity isn’t always there. And that shift changes everything. For riders and parents, it can feel confusing — even frustrating — when progress isn’t clearly laid out. For trainers, the job has become more nuanced than ever: communicating feel, timing, and judgment in a system that no longer has a simple checklist. In this episode, I talk about how the structure of the sport has evolved, why “moving up” isn’t always a clear yes or no, and how both riders and trainers are navigating something that is increasingly subjective.

    27분
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Two Point Perspective brings together two riders from very different eras of the sport: Elizabeth “Lizzo,” a former 1970s junior rider now actively navigating today’s modern, high-pressure show world, and Reynolds, a millennial adult amateur, new mother, and equine insurance agent who grew up doing the hands-on work and now sees firsthand how the system has changed. Together, they explore the conversations riders are actually having — and the ones most people avoid. Tradition and technology. Horsemanship and convenience. Trainer dynamics. Accessibility. Show costs. Social media pressure. Generational shifts in riding culture. And what it really takes to stay engaged in a sport shaped by history and sharpened by its audience. Real talk from real riders — grounded in one sport and a shared passion.

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    Elizabeth Vagnoni
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    2025년 - 2026년
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