Two Voice Devs

Mark and Allen

Mark and Allen talk about the latest news in the VoiceFirst world from a developer point of view.

  1. Episode 270 - Beyond the Big Three: Open Models, Agents, & the Future of Devs

    Mar 5

    Episode 270 - Beyond the Big Three: Open Models, Agents, & the Future of Devs

    In part two of this insightful conversation, Allen and Sam Witteveen dive deep into the rapidly expanding world of AI models beyond the "big three." They explore the impact of open-weight and Chinese models like DeepSeek, Mistral, and Qwen, discussing their impressive efficiency and coding capabilities. The conversation shifts to the rise of agentic workflows and how tools like Claude Code are fundamentally changing the day-to-day lives of developers. They also tackle the tough questions: Are junior developers being replaced? Is AI just the next level of abstraction in programming? Finally, they cover the enterprise side of AI, from on-premise deployments to the evolving landscape of prompt engineering and observability frameworks like LangChain. Timestamps: [00:00:00] Introduction [00:00:49] Exploring Open Weights and Chinese Models [00:03:41] The Value of "Thinking" Models and Distillation [00:06:41] Running Models Locally [00:08:34] The Shift Towards Agentic Workflows [00:12:17] How AI is Changing the Role of Developers [00:29:04] AI as the Next Level of Abstraction [00:35:00] Best Models for Tool Calling and Coding [00:39:04] On-Premise Models and Enterprise Solutions [00:44:49] The Future of Prompt Engineering and LangChain [00:48:37] Outro and Where to Find Sam Hashtags: #TwoVoiceDevs #AI #OpenWeights #DeepSeek #Mistral #Qwen #ClaudeCode #Gemini #LangChain #SoftwareEngineering #AgenticAI #MachineLearning

    49 min
  2. Episode 269 - The "Big Three" AI Models and Training Evolution

    Mar 3

    Episode 269 - The "Big Three" AI Models and Training Evolution

    In Part 1 of a two-part series, guest host Sam Witteveen joins Allen to catch up and dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of AI models. Sam shares his fascinating journey from being a successful pop songwriter to becoming a Machine Learning Google Developer Expert (GDE) and running the massive Machine Learning Singapore meetup. The conversation shifts to the latest AI developments, exploring the "Big Three" model builders—Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google. Sam and Allen discuss the frenetic pace of new model releases, changes to the Gemini 3 API, and how developers navigate the trade-offs between intelligence, latency, and cost. Finally, they pull back the curtain on how these models are actually trained today. Discover why models are no longer trying to be "fact machines" and how post-training breakthroughs, code execution sandboxes, and Reinforcement Learning (RL) environments are dramatically improving AI capabilities. Stay tuned for the end of the episode, where they hint at what's coming in Part 2! Timestamps: [00:00:00] Introduction and catching up [00:01:33] Sam's fascinating journey from pop music to machine learning [00:05:23] Running the massive Machine Learning Singapore meetup [00:07:42] Stumbling into YouTube and teaching AI with Google Colab [00:12:38] Analyzing the "Big Three" AI models and rapid release cycles [00:17:52] Gemini 3 API updates, Flash models, and thinking levels [00:22:00] Tool use, knowledge cutoffs, and why LLMs aren't fact machines [00:26:00] How post-training and code sandboxes revolutionized AI [00:32:00] Scaling Reinforcement Learning (RL) environments for design [00:34:04] Structured outputs and the return to predictable rules [00:36:43] Tune in next time for more! And where to find Sam online Hashtags: #TwoVoiceDevs #AI #MachineLearning #DeepLearning #LLM #GoogleGemini #Gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #Anthropic #Claude #ReinforcementLearning #RAG #Developers #SamWitteveen

    38 min

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Mark and Allen talk about the latest news in the VoiceFirst world from a developer point of view.