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Johannes Liegl
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  1. Nina Chan: From building products to helping others build strength

    JAN 21

    Nina Chan: From building products to helping others build strength

    In this episode I'm speaking with Nina Chan, a Strength Coach and former Growth Product Manager. After studying creative writing at Brooklyn College, she spent 16 years as a Product Manager. First at Ask.com, then at SurveyMonkey, in the San Francisco Bay Area. Recently she changed her career to be a strength coach.

    1h 24m
  2. Sarah Eckenhoff: The impact of trends and how they are forecasted

    10/18/2025

    Sarah Eckenhoff: The impact of trends and how they are forecasted

    In this episode, I’m speaking with Sarah Eckenhoff. Sarah is a creative director and aesthetic trend analyst with a background in both graphic design and product design. Quoting the tagline from her online bio "she's been making things thoughtfully pretty for over 20 years”. Sarah has curated trends for thousands of seasonal Starbucks drinkware products, including collaborations with Disney, Universal, and Stanley, and has designed co-branded CPG gift packs sold on shelves of Fortune 500 clients including Target, Macy's, and Costco. If you've ever bought a Starbucks mug, chances are, that she helped bring it to life. In our conversation she explains what trend forecasting is and Sarah talks about her process. In 2024 Sarah established her own trend consultancy called Docent. Docent helps retail brands transform aesthetic insights into standout, consumer-driven products. Links to things we reference and talk about in the podcast Sarah's favorite Starbucks mugThe Devil wears Prada monologueSarah's Trends for Autumn/Winter 26/27 outdoor apparel presentation

    1h 36m
  3. Patricio Echagüe: The value of trusting your convictions

    09/08/2025

    Patricio Echagüe: The value of trusting your convictions

    In this episode, I'm talking with Patricio "Pato" Echagüe, one of the founders of Split.io. Pato shares his path to starting a company in Silicon Valley, all the way from his roots growing up in a small town in Argentina and starting to code on an i386. He talks about how he kept his motivation over the 10-year existence of Split until it got acquired in 2024. We talk about how they started the company, how funding changed over time, and the importance of culture in a startup.

    42 min
  4. Katharina van Zeller: Bildung, Ausbildung, and starting businesses

    08/29/2025

    Katharina van Zeller: Bildung, Ausbildung, and starting businesses

    Katharina van Zeller was born in Vienna and grew up in both Vienna and Hamburg. She studied Social Anthropology and Sinology at the University of Vienna. She is a professional organizing coach and the founder of Ordnungskunst, a consulting practice that helps small businesses and private households create and maintain order. She also co-founded Dreikreis, an agency dedicated to placing agile IT freelancers with purpose-driven companies.  In our conversation we dive into why and how she started a recruiting agency, what business lessons she learned along the way and how she eventually sold the business successfully. We also talk about how Kathi helps people as a professional organizing coach and how well studying sinology and social anthropology complement each other. Bonus: Kathi gets into Chinese characters, explaining the difference in meaning between 1 woman under a roof 安 and 2 women under a roof 奻.

    1h 4m
  5. Mario Zechner: Discovering the joy of electronics by building a portable audio player from scratch

    04/28/2025

    Mario Zechner: Discovering the joy of electronics by building a portable audio player from scratch

    In this episode of the Uncertain Value podcast, I’m talking with Mario Zechner again. He shares how he designed and built a portable, Gameboy-like audio player for his son — motivated by the shortcomings he saw in the Toniebox and Yoto Player, the two biggest products in the market. Issues like unintuitive controls, underpowered speakers, the potential fire hazards of lithium-ion batteries, content limitations, and privacy concerns about the mandatory internet connection sparked his desire for something better. Although this was Mario’s first real adventure into electronics, how much can someone who usually writes game engines and compilers really be held back by designing circuit boards, soldering, and 3D printing? Listen and find out! Resources Mario's in-depth blog post on how he built the audio player.Book recommendation: Make: Electronics by Charles PlattBook recommendation: Electronics for Beginners by Jonathan Bartlett

    1h 15m
  6. Anthony Parker: Creating a successful guitar instruction business on social media

    12/13/2024

    Anthony Parker: Creating a successful guitar instruction business on social media

    Anthony Parker lives in San Rafael, California, and created a successful online guitar school. The success of his business is deeply rooted in social media. He has a strong presence on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, and Patreon. His business, called "Anthony Parker - Near Life Experience", is the go-to destination for aspiring guitarists. In our conversation, Anthony tells the story of how & why he founded his business, what didn't work, and how he made it successful using a lot of experiments. The dead milkmen

    1h 30m
  7. Brandon Bunch: Empowerment through financial literacy

    11/26/2024

    Brandon Bunch: Empowerment through financial literacy

    Brandon grew up in Idaho and earned both a Master of Science and a Bachelor’s degree in Accounting from Boise State University. He is a Certified Public Accountant in the state of California. Most recently, he served as the Director of Accounting and Operations at Split Software in Redwood City, California. Prior to that, he was an Accounting Manager at Officengine in Oakland and an Audit Associate at PwC. In our conversation, we focus on the three key financial statements: the balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow statement. We discuss their importance in assessing the financial health of a business. We delve into the details of the income statement, starting with an explanation of the difference between the top line and bottom line. Together with Brandon, we analyze Datadog's recent 10-K filing to better understand the company's financial health through mandatory SEC disclosures. We conclude with a list of finance and accounting questions that startup employees should ask during all-hands meetings to gain insights into their company’s financial well-being.

    1h 43m
  8. David Burrowes: Immerse to learn, embrace slack to achieve greatness

    11/11/2024

    David Burrowes: Immerse to learn, embrace slack to achieve greatness

    David Burrowes, who goes by “Deej” earned a bachelor’s degree in Cognitive Science from Brown University. He also studied Chinese at National Taiwan University and Tzu Chi University. He has held various engineering roles in Silicon Valley over the last 30+ years, including Senior UI Engineer at Sun Microsystems, Staff Engineer at Box, Principal Engineer at Split Software, and Engineering Architect at Harness. The conversation with Deej begins in the small Ohio town where he grew up, reflecting on why it was, in hindsight, an ideal place. Deej shares his experiences at Brown University, where the freedom to design his own curriculum drew him in. This flexibility allowed him to take a class on Islam, which later helped him process the events of 9/11 and its aftermath. Deej also talks about his move to Silicon Valley in 1990 and how he was laid off six months into his first job. We discuss his time at Sun Microsystems and the final days of the once-great company. Deej explains what sparked his interest in learning Chinese and how he realized that immersing himself—studying the language in Taiwan for over a year—was the only way he could truly learn. We delve into company culture, its significance, and why Slack is a powerful but costly tool for fostering it. Book recommendation: Slack: Getting Past Burnout, Busywork, and the Myth of Total Efficiency

    1h 43m
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Conversations about creating on all levels.

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  • Creator
    Johannes Liegl
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    20
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © Johannes Liegl
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    Uncertain Value