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Discovering the hidden depths of the people and world around us.Documentary interview show with an eclectic mix of people and subjects including:  history, music, philosophy, the outdoors, wildlife, food and drink, sport, personal achievements, spirituality and many more.   IG:https://www.instagram.com/undercurrentstories/ FB:https://www.facebook.com/undercurrentstories/ TW:https://mobile.twitter.com/undercurrentst1

  1. 3h ago

    The Future Belongs to All of Us: Andy Milligan on Preparing for What Comes Next

    What will the world of work look like in ten years? How will artificial intelligence, changing customer expectations and new technologies reshape our lives? And what can we do today to prepare for a future that nobody can predict with certainty? In this episode of Undercurrent Stories, Bob Wells speaks with Andy Milligan, co-author of Future Shift, about the forces transforming business, work and society. The conversation  is much more than a conversation about corporate strategy. It explores the human skills we all need to navigate change, whether we're starting our careers, running a business, approaching retirement or looking for ways to contribute to our communities. Andy explains why curiosity, adaptability, empathy and critical thinking are becoming increasingly important in an AI-driven world. He also shares why businesses must look beyond profit alone, why smaller organisations can have an advantage over larger corporations, and how older and younger generations can learn from one another. The central message is an optimistic one: we may not be able to predict the future, but we can prepare for it — and we all have a part to play in shaping it. What We Discuss Preparing for an unpredictable future: Why understanding emerging trends matters more than trying to predict exactly what will happen.The changing world of business: How AI, technological innovation, climate change, demographic shifts and geopolitics are reshaping organisations.The importance of brands and customer experience: Why a brand must deliver on its promises, and how employee experience influences what customers actually receive.AI and the human advantage: Why technology should improve the customer experience rather than simply reduce costs, and why human empathy remains essential.The skills that matter most: Why curiosity, collaboration, adaptability, resilience and critical thinking may be just as important as formal qualifications.Rethinking careers: Why young people should develop transferable skills rather than assume they'll follow one career path for life.Purpose beyond profit: Why sustainability, employee wellbeing, good governance and positive community impact matter alongside financial performance.The rise of skills-based working: Why organisations may increasingly value what people can do over their job titles or place in a traditional hierarchy.The advantage of small businesses: How closer relationships with customers and the ability to adapt quickly can help smaller organisations compete.The contribution of older generations: Why experience, mentoring, volunteering and intergenerational conversations can help younger people navigate change.The power of conversation: Why informal discussions and even a walk with a colleague can generate ideas, strengthen relationships and solve problems.Key Takeaways 1. Stay curious and keep learning. Whatever your age or career stage, be willing to question assumptions, explore new ideas and develop new skills. 2. Develop your human skills. Empathy, collaboration, communication and critical thinking will remain valuable as technology takes over more routine tasks. 3. Be prepared to change direction. A qualification or first job doesn't have to define your entire career. The ability to learn, adapt and try something new is a strength. 4. Put people at the heart of technology. AI can make services faster and more convenient, but businesses must understand when customers need human support and understanding. 5. Recognise that business affects everyone. From local shops and tradespeople to global corporations, businesses shape our communities, livelihoods and everyday experiences. 6. Don't underestimate your ability to contribute. Retired people have valuable experience to share, while younger generations bring fresh perspectives. Both benefit when they listen to one another. 7. Be hopeful, but realistic. There are genuine challenges ahead, particularly for people facing uncertainty in employment. However, technology also creates opportunities for people to develop ideas, start businesses and find new ways to contribute. A Message for Younger and Older Generations One of the most thought-provoking themes in this conversation is the role we can all play in helping others navigate change. For younger people, Andy's advice is to remain curious, get involved, collaborate with others and develop the skills that enable you to adapt throughout your working life. For older and retired people, his message is equally important: don't withdraw from society or assume your contribution is over. Offer encouragement rather than criticism, share your experience, explore volunteering opportunities and stay connected with younger generations. The exchange of ideas and experience between generations can help everyone prepare for what comes next. About Andy Milligan Andy Milligan is a business strategist and co-founder of The Caffeine Partnership, where he works with business leaders to develop brand strategies and create experiences that bring those strategies to life. With decades of experience in branding, customer experience and business transformation, Andy is particularly interested in the relationship between what a business promises and what its customers and employees actually experience. He is the co-author of Future Shift: How Business and Brands Prepare for What Comes Next, which brings together major trends shaping the future with insights from 30 leaders across different sectors. About the Book: Future Shift Future Shift explores the forces changing the business landscape and what organisations can do to prepare. Drawing on conversations with leaders across sectors, the book considers technology, AI, changing demographics, climate change, geopolitics, evolving customer expectations and the future of work. Although written with business leaders in mind, its themes are relevant to anyone interested in how the world is changing and how we can respond. A Final Thought The future isn't something that simply happens to us. Through the skills we develop, the businesses we build, the communities we support and the conversations we have, we all help shape it. As Andy reminds us, business is fundamentally a human activity. And in a world increasingly influenced by technology, our ability to listen, understand, collaborate and adapt may be more important than ever. If you enjoyed this episode, share it with someone who is thinking about their future, navigating a career change or looking for ways to make a difference. Find out more about Andy Milligan, The Caffeine Partnership and Future Shift using the links provided with this episode. Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    The Future Belongs to All of Us: Andy Milligan on Preparing for What Comes Next
  2. Oct 7

    The Beauty of the Ordinary. A Conversation with Kevin McManus.

    What if getting older isn’t really about having fewer things to look forward to, but about learning to appreciate what’s already here? In this episode, I sit down with Irish author, teacher, poet, and former musician Kevin McManus to talk about his novel The Light of the Evening and some of the bigger questions that come with getting older. How do we make sense of grief and loss? What happens when illness changes the way we look at life and how do we learn to appreciate the ordinary days that we might once have taken for granted? Kevin’s novel grew out of some deeply personal experiences, including his wife’s illness and the death of his father. But rather than being a story about despair, The Light of the Evening is ultimately a hopeful book about finding meaning in the everyday. We talk about why the small things such as a cup of tea, a conversation, a laugh, a good day, can become more meaningful as we get older, and why we might be better off paying attention to the life we’re actually living rather than constantly waiting for the next weekend, holiday, birthday, or big event. Kevin also shares the unusual path that brought him to writing. He started playing music and writing lyrics as a teenager, spent years playing in bands, moved into poetry, and eventually became a crime novelist before taking a much more personal direction with his latest book. Along the way, we discuss creativity, self-doubt, marriage, ageing, rural Ireland, and the importance of simply putting your work out into the world. In this episode, we discuss: Why the ordinary moments of life can become more valuable as we get olderWhat illness and loss can teach us about appreciating the presentThe meaning behind the title The Light of the EveningWhy getting older doesn't necessarily mean the end of hope, ambition, or possibilityHow grief can become a source of creativityKevin's journey from playing bass in bands to becoming a novelist and poetHis years writing crime fiction and why he eventually wanted to move in a different directionThe role of humour and companionship in a long marriageWhy we shouldn't overlook the small victories and good daysHow rural Ireland and writers like John McGahern and Seamus Heaney influenced Kevin's workWhy a "page of rubbish is better than a page of nothing"How to overcome self-doubt and actually get started on the work you've been thinking aboutWhy you eventually have to stop tinkering and let your work goThe danger of always waiting for the next thing instead of enjoying the day you're livingWhat it means to look back at the life you've lived and realise that perhaps you did more than you thoughtAt its heart, this is a conversation about making peace with the life you've got, finding beauty in ordinary days, and recognising that there is still light ahead, even when you're entering the later chapters of life. LInks: https://kevinmcmanusbooks.com/ Book: The Light at Evening Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    The Beauty of the Ordinary. A Conversation with Kevin McManus.
  3. Oct 1

    How to Make Your Best Public Speech Ever! with Paul Sloane

    Want to become a more confident and compelling public speaker? Most of us at some point in our lives have to make a speech. Perhaps a wedding speech, a family celebration or you might be regularly making presentations at work. Whether you’re facing your first presentation or you’ve been speaking for years, this episode is packed with practical ideas to help you communicate with greater impact.  Paul Sloane, keynote speaker and author of 160 Top Tips for Public Speakers, joins us and talks about what separates an ordinary speech from a memorable one. Paul reveals how to: Build a talk around what your audience actually wantsStructure your speech so it has a clear beginning, middle and endUse stories, humour and pauses to keep people listeningRehearse without becoming dependent on a scriptUse the “virtual journey” technique to remember your talkAvoid common PowerPoint and presentation mistakesHandle nerves, mistakes and unexpected problems on stageKeep people engaged when speaking on ZoomGet useful feedback and continually improve your speakingThere’s also advice on one of the biggest secrets of becoming a better speaker: speak more, learn from every performance, and keep refining what works. If you want to feel more natural, confident and engaging when you stand up to speak, this episode is for you. Links: Paul's website:  https://www.destination-innovation.com/ Book: 160 Top Tips for Public Speakers: How to Create and Deliver a Terrific Talk Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    How to Make Your Best Public Speech Ever! with Paul Sloane
  4. Sep 24

    The Real Odysseus: The Man Behind Nolan’s The Odyssey: Joel Christensen

    If you’re going to see Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey, or you’ve already seen it, there’s a much bigger story behind the film. In this conversation I talk to Dr. Joel Christensen, Professor of Classics at the City University of New York Graduate Center, and author of the book ' Why Odysseus?Survivor, Scoundrel, (Anti) Hero.'  We talk about the ancient Odysseus,  the brilliant strategist, liar, trickster, survivor and deeply complicated hero at the centre of Homer’s Odyssey. Nolan’s film brings this ancient story to a modern audience, but Homer’s Odysseus is very different from a straightforward Hollywood hero. He is courageous and resourceful, but he is also manipulative, deceptive and capable of making disastrous choices. His greatest weapon isn't strength, it’s his ability to adapt, persuade and think his way out of impossible situations. Joel explains what the film can and can’t tell us about Homer’s original story, why the Odyssey is much more than an adventure about getting home, and why Odysseus remains such a compelling character more than 2,500 years later. In this episode Who was the real Odysseus? And why was he so different from heroes like Achilles?Why the ancient idea of a “hero” is very different from our modern understanding of one.The Odyssey as a story of survival, and the price that survival can carry.Odysseus, the Trojan Horse and his extraordinary gift for deception and adaptability.Whether Odysseus is responsible for the deaths of his men mand how Homer explores blame, responsibility and human agency.Why simply reaching Ithaca isn't enough: what does it actually mean to come home?The Odyssey's fascination with family, community and the damage heroic behaviour can leave behind.Why Odysseus can be seen as an ancient version of the modern antihero.What Walter White from Breaking Bad can tell us about Odysseus and our fascination with complicated characters.How Christopher Nolan's interpretation changes our understanding of Odysseus.Why Nolan's Odysseus appears more traumatised and guilt-ridden than Homer's.The fascinating difference between Homer's Odysseus and the hero modern audiences may want him to be.What polytropos, “the man of many ways," reveals about Odysseus.The meaning of nostos, the ancient idea of homecoming from which our word “nostalgia” ultimately derives.Why the Odyssey was originally a performed song rather than a modern-style book.How Joel's own experiences of fatherhood, loss and family changed the way he understood Homer's story.Beyond the film One of the most interesting questions in the conversation is whether we actually like Odysseus. Joel's answer is complicated. For him, Odysseus is less a hero to admire than a face in the mirror: a character who forces us to confront compromise, bad decisions, persistence and the things people do to survive.  The ancient poem isn't simply about monsters, gods and an extraordinary journey across the sea. It's about what happens to a person after war, what survival costs, whether returning home can make someone whole again, and how much of ourselves we are willing to compromise along the way. About Dr. Joel Christensen Dr. Joel Christensen is Professor of Classics at the City University of New York Graduate Center. He is a scholar of Homer and Greek epic and the author of Odysseus: Survivor, Scoundrel, and Antihero. If you haven't read The Odyssey, Joel recommends getting familiar with the main characters first, then exploring different versions of the story rather than assuming there is one single “correct” Odyssey. He also recommends Gareth Hinds' graphic novel adaptation as an accessible introduction to the story. This version deliberately doesn't give away Nolan's film plot, so it can work both as a companion for people who have seen it and as an introduction for people planning to see it. Links Book: ' Why Odysseus?Survivor, Scoundrel, (Anti) Hero.'   Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    The Real Odysseus: The Man Behind Nolan’s The Odyssey: Joel Christensen
  5. Sep 17

    The Untold Story of the Nazi Plan to Sterilise Millions With a Plant: Edzard Ernst

    Professor Edzard Ernst discusses 'The Leopard Lily Project ' and tells the disturbing story of a largely forgotten Nazi scheme to use a poisonous South American plant to carry out mass sterilisation. After taking power in 1933, the Nazis introduced compulsory sterilisation for people they deemed “unworthy” of reproduction, particularly those with hereditary illnesses. Seeking a less invasive method, an Austrian dermatologist proposed to Heinrich Himmler that the plant Leopard Lily (Dieffenbachia seguine), also known as dumb cane, could potentially be used to sterilise millions of people. Himmler took an interest in the idea, leading to further research into the plant and its potential use. We discuss this largely untold story through the wider history of Nazi ideology, the regime’s fascination with alternative and herbal medicine, Himmler’s interest in pseudoscience, and the doctors and scientists involved. If you are interested in the history of medicine, medical ethics, pseudoscience, or the Nazi regime, I can recommend Edzard's book, 'The Leopard Lily Project : A Story of Nazi Pseudoscience' which goes into more detail about this disturbing and previously little-known story. Links: Professor Edzard Ernst  Book: The Leopard Lily Project: A Story of Nazi Pseudoscience Undercurrent Stories Links: Web: https://www.undercurrentstories.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/undercurrentstories/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/undercurrent-stories-podcast/ Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    The Untold Story of the Nazi Plan to Sterilise Millions With a Plant: Edzard Ernst
  6. Sep 10

    Super Adaptability: How to Stop Adapting to Cope and Start Adapting to Win: Dr. Max McKeown

    In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Max McKeown, author of Super Adaptability, to understand the difference between adapting just to survive a hard situation and adapting in a way that actually moves your life forward. Max explains the three-part "loop" at the heart of his book,  a simple, repeatable process for noticing when you're stuck, understanding why, and taking deliberate action instead of falling back into old habits. Along the way, we cover: Why some people get trapped repeating the same problem for years, and how to spot it in your own lifeThe difference between "adapting to cope" and "adapting to win"Max's concept of metaplasticity — literally coaching your own brain like a personal therapistReal stories from the book, including a plane crash survivor, a father-son physics duo escaping the Nazis, and a man who single-handedly regrew a forestWhy the loop applies just as well to business, sports, activism, and science as it does to everyday personal strugglesWhat Max has learned from readers who found the book mid-crisis  and why he thinks the ideas outlast the authorWhether you're navigating a career pivot, a stubborn personal habit, or just feel like you keep ending up in the same frustrating place, this conversation offers a practical framework you can start using immediately. Guest: Dr. Max McKeown, author of Super Adaptability Find Max: LinkedIn, Instagram Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    Super Adaptability: How to Stop Adapting to Cope and Start Adapting to Win: Dr. Max McKeown
  7. Sep 2

    Only Girls Bleed: Elaine Lawless

    “Only Girls Bleed:  The Human Cost of Post-Roe America" -  Dr. Elaine Lawless Overview Ethnographer and folklorist Dr. Elaine Lawless talks about her debut novel Only Girls Bleed, a gripping story inspired by real accounts of women navigating pregnancy, trauma, and the fractured abortion laws across the United States. Elaine explains why she turned to fiction after decades of academic work, how her field research shaped the book, and what she hopes readers, both men and women, take from it. Key Themes Post–Roe v. Wade America: Elaine breaks down how the 2022 Supreme Court decision reshaped abortion access and inspired the book’s central conflict.Real stories behind the narrative: The novel draws on years of conversations with women in shelters, churches, and rural communities.Writing trauma responsibly: Elaine discusses avoiding graphic detail and choosing to tell the story through the mother’s perspective.From scholarship to fiction: Elaine describes the freedom she found in writing a novel after years of academic publishing.Why men should read this book: The conversation explores misogyny, silence around menstruation, and the importance of involving boys and fathers in discussions about reproductive health. Content note: this episode touches on sensitive themes including a family facing a difficult reproductive decision, and a young person's experience of assault. About the Guest Dr. Elaine J. Lawless Ethnographer, folklorist, professor emerita, and novelist. Her work has focused on women’s lived experiences in religious communities and domestic violence shelters. Website: elainelawless.com About the Book Only Girls Bleed - A haunting story of a mother who will do anything to protect her daughter, including break the law, if she must. Question or comment? Send us a text message. www.undercurrentstories.com

    Only Girls Bleed: Elaine Lawless

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