What will it take to lead effectively over the next decade? How can you prepare yourself for what will likely be called for as we navigate times ahead? Well, according to the author of Future Leader Jacob Morgan, who interviewed 140 global CEOs (of companies like Audi, Mastercard, Unilever, Oracle, and SAP) and surveyed over 14,000 employees, there are four mindsets and five skills that our current business leaders believe will be needed in our future leaders. Curious what they are? Tune in to the full episode to learn about: What current global CEOs believe leadership will require over the next decade What mindsets and skillsets you should develop to position yourself strategically to lead effectively Micro and Macro trends that influence leadership What it takes to build a brand for yourself The dynamics involved in writing a book (hint: you might be surprised at the distribution of effort) Tanya Privé · EP 36 What Leadership Will Look Like Over The Next 10 Years Connect with Jacob Morgan: Linkedin Twitter Youtube Website Books Jacob Morgan’s Story: After graduating with honors in business management economics and psychology from the University of California Santa Cruz, Jacob was excited to join the corporate world. At his first job he was told that he’d be traveling the country, meeting with executives and entrepreneurs, and doing all sorts of exciting work. A few months in, he was stuck doing data entry, cold calling, and PowerPoint presentations. One day the CEO came out of his nice corner office, handed Jacob a $10 bill, and said, “I’m late for a meeting, go grab me a cup of coffee, and get something for yourself as well.” That was the last corporate job he ever had. Today, Jacob Morgan is a trained futurist and one of the world’s leading authorities on leadership, the future of work, employee experience, and leadership. He speaks in front of tens of thousands of people each year and his content is seen over a million times a year. Jacob is the best-selling author of four books: The Future Leader (Wiley 2020) The Employee Experience Advantage (Wiley, 2017), The Future of Work (Wiley, 2014), and The Collaborative Organization (McGraw Hill, 2012). He speaks at over 50 conferences a year including TED Academy which is one of the largest TED events in the world. In addition, Jacob provides advisory and thought leadership services to various organizations around the world. He is the founder of The Future of Work University at FutureOfWorkUniversity.com, an online education and training platform that helps individuals and organizations thrive in the rapidly changing world of work. Courses explore topics such as employee experience, the future of work, and leadership skills. Jacob also created “The Future If,” a global community of business leaders, authors and futurists who explore what our future can look like IF certain technologies, ideas, approaches and trends actually happen. The community looks at everything from AI and automation to leadership and management practices to augmented reality and virtual reality, the 4th industrial revolution and everything in between. * * * Full Transcription: Jacob Morgan: For leaders who are constantly being pulled in different directions where we constantly have notifications and things buzzing and binging all over the place, being able to listen is going to be very, very crucial, and it’s becoming very, very hard to do. Tanya: That’s Jacob Morgan, four-time best-selling author, TED speaker, and Founder of The Future of Work University whose research explores what it takes to be an effective leader and what employees care most about in terms of their work. After interviewing more than 140 CEOs and 14,000 employees, Jacob Morgan shares critical learnings about what the next generation of leaders will look like and what leading organizations will do to attract, retain, and motivate their troops. He is also a guest writer for Forbes, the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Inc. Magazine, the Harvard Business Review, and CNN, just to name a few. Jacob Morgan, you have a very interesting story, so you went from being a bad student to a four-time author, a speaker, and a thought leader. How exactly did that happen? What was your journey? Jacob Morgan: It was a pretty nonlinear journey. Originally, I assumed my career path would be like what most students think their career path is going to be. You go to school. You go work for an organization after school. You maybe go back and get your MBA, and then you ascend the ranks of whatever organization you’re at and become a manager, SVP. For me, I had this dream of becoming the chief marketing officer of a big company, like a Coca-Cola or an IBM, and so mentally, when I graduated college from UC Santa Cruz, that’s where my mind was at. Okay, I was on climb the corporate ladder, do well, work hard, and everything will be okay. My first job out of college, I went to interview for this organization in downtown Los Angeles, and anybody who is familiar with the L.A. area knows how terrible the traffic is. I had a three-hour daily commute, an hour and a half to work and an hour and a half back from work every day. When I interviewed for this organization, they basically told me that I’m going to be doing these great things. I’ll be traveling, meeting with entrepreneurs and executives. It’ll be exciting and fun. I thought, all right, this is perfect. This is why I worked so hard in school. I take the job. A couple months into my job I’m doing data entry and cold calling and PowerPoint presentations. Then the last straw was when this executive came out of his office, and he says, “I’m late for a meeting. I need you to go run and get me a cup of coffee, and by the way, get yourself a latte as well.” In my mind, I lost it. That was the last fulltime job I ever had working for anybody else or one of. I had one more after that, and funny enough, a couple of weeks ago I actually saw this person at the airport. Tanya: Oh, my God, how did you – did you say hi? Jacob Morgan: He came up to – I didn’t recognize him, and he was sitting there with his son. He’s like, “Jacob Morgan Morgan?” I was like, “Yes.” I immediately saw him, and he’s like, “I saw your talk online where you mentioned this coffee story.” Tanya: No Jacob Morgan: Yeah, I’m like, “What are you talking about? What coffee story?” Yeah, I don’t why – I didn’t want to get into this whole thing with him talking about it. That story’s propelled me, and I’ve used it in all my talks. I didn’t want to get into that whole thing because we’re sitting in an airport terminal. I was just like, “Oh, yeah, maybe I mentioned that once or twice. I’ll have to go back and check it out,” just played it off. I think he’s still doing the same thing that he’s doing. He’s working at a pharma company doing – managing ad spend and stuff like that, but it was just a very funny, awkward encounter. Tanya: That’s so funny. Jacob Morgan: He was with his son’s baseball team, and I can tell that – he turned to his friends. A group of guys are standing there. I could tell he was whispering to them. He’s like, “You see that guy behind me? I fired him. He used to work for me 15 years ago.” I could tell there was something like that going on. I got a kick out of it. Tanya: Oh, my God, actually, okay, this is really funny. When I graduated college and I got my first job at Forbes, I was so excited and very similar experience. One of my bosses kept asking me every day for a coffee. I was like I can’t believe I went to school for this. Every time she’d say, “You’re such a rock star, Tanya.” I’m like really? Thank you so much. Jacob Morgan: You’re a coffee rock star. Tanya: Yeah, exactly. I get it. I totally get it. Okay, so from that decision, where – how did you get to being really a four-time author, speaker, thought leader on everything, employee experience, leadership related, company culture environments? How did you get there? Jacob Morgan: After that, I ended up moving to the Bay Area. I had one more job out here in the Bay Area; long story short, similar experience, bad job working for somebody, and I quit. I actually started doing search engine optimization consulting work. That was the job that I had in the Bay Area, I don’t know, 15 years ago. I was doing a lot of search engine optimization stuff. At the time, social media was becoming popular, so I pivoted a little bit and did social media consulting. Then, shortly after that, using these tools internally became pretty popular, like getting employees to communicate and collaborate on things like Salesforce Chatter and Jive and Lithium. Those were the platforms of the day. That morphed a little bit into enterprise collaboration and social business, Enterprise 2.0, and then that evolved a little bit into the broader theme of the future of work. Then that became employee experience, and then that became the future leader. These were just natural evolutions from one topic to the other. As I was participating in more conversations and as I was able to grow my personal brand and started to speak at conferences and events, I just started to think about what is missing? What are people talking about? When I wrote my first book in 2012, The Collaborative Organization, there was no guide for how to use these technologies internally, and when I wrote the book, The Future of Work, there was no book out there that talked about how employees and organizations and leaders are changing. When I wrote The Employee Experience Advantage, there was no book based on research that looks at what employee experience is and how to design it. Similarly, with this new book The Future