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Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters and The Unrefined Crew
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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.

  1. E205 Battle for Your Soul

    18H AGO

    E205 Battle for Your Soul

    https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com Today's guest shares a redemption story that runs through childhood spiritual sensitivity, occult deception, counterfeit supernatural power, and a real encounter with Jesus that changed everything. This episode moves from dark spiritual territory into healing, deliverance, identity, and the power of Christ to restore what the enemy tried to claim.  Brandon chats with Wendy Sadd. https://radiantwellnesshudson.com/Wendy's Book Timestamps:00:03:10 Bloodlines, trauma, iniquity, and the blood of Jesus00:08:02 The church to cauldron pipeline00:12:39 Pennsylvania roots, church history, and Masonic ties in the bloodline00:14:55 Childhood demonic encounters and early spiritual sensitivity00:17:58 Scrying, automatic writing, and early occult behavior00:20:20 The voice at sixteen and the prophecy that marked her path00:27:24 Turning 42, getting red-pilled, and starting the search for God00:29:35 Why spiritually hungry people can drift into counterfeit power00:34:24 Under the tutelage of occult teachers and a New Age walk-in00:39:02 Light body activation and astral travel00:41:18 A face to face encounter with another Jesus00:47:59 Spiritual interference during the recording and live prayer00:52:31 Reiki, yoga, worship, and the body in spiritual practice00:59:25 Reiki training and demonic beings attached to healing sessions01:01:46 The Lords of Karma and the Akashic records01:04:15 Council encounter and fear in meditation01:07:42 Night terror, levitation, and angelic intervention01:08:52 God begins pulling Wendy out of the occult01:12:55 Seeing what was operating behind an occult mentor01:19:39 Repentance, burning occult objects, and returning to Jesus01:26:22 Nigerian prayer warrior, spiritual authority, and bloodline warfare01:28:45 Instant healing of a lump at a conference01:32:11 Grocery store word of knowledge and healing testimony01:36:30 Warning a former friend to repent and close the door01:38:24 Yeti encounter near Pilot Mountain01:49:58 The danger of fear based spiritual legalism01:52:26 Freedom in Jesus for people trapped in the occult01:54:43 Romans 8 and the invitation to come home to Christ01:56:56 Next steps for new believers coming out of the occult

    2 hr
  2. E204 [Rewind] What Do You Do With a Bible That Refuses to Stay Ordinary?

    APR 20

    E204 [Rewind] What Do You Do With a Bible That Refuses to Stay Ordinary?

    https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com What do you do with a Bible that refuses to stay ordinary? In this episode, Brandon and Lindsy sit down with returning guest Ryan Anderson to explore one of the wildest questions they’ve tackled yet: does the Bible actually present a case for time travel? What starts as a conversation about God creating time quickly opens into a sweeping discussion about Moses, Elijah, the Mount of Transfiguration, prophetic timing, and whether certain passages make more sense when read through a deeper biblical lens. Ryan lays out his case that time is part of creation itself, meaning the God who made it is not bound by it. From Hezekiah’s sundial to Joshua’s long day to Moses asking to see God’s glory, the conversation traces moments in Scripture that seem to suggest time is more flexible than most believers assume. Then things really get interesting as Ryan connects Moses and Elijah’s encounters on the mountain with Jesus’ transfiguration, proposing that what happened there may have been more than a vision. It may have been a convergence across ages. Along the way, the conversation touches the gap theory, Lucifer traditions, Hebrew word studies, old earth questions, typology, the law and the prophets, and why the Bible may be far stranger and more supernatural than most modern readers were taught to expect. This one is not about chasing novelty. It is about asking whether the text itself is bigger, deeper, and more charged with mystery than we’ve allowed. Timestamps:00:00:30 Intro and setup for a stretching conversation 00:02:53 Ryan Anderson on his background and upcoming book 00:03:45 Pre-Adamic history gap theory and Lucifer questions 00:05:18 Bible translations manuscript issues and original language discussion 00:07:41 Hebrew wording and Lucifer wanting to be like the Most High 00:10:01 Adam angels and the possibility of a prior order 00:12:26 Psalm 8 Lucifer protest theory and the question what is man 00:14:50 When did Satan actually fall 00:17:14 Jerusalem Jericho moon symbolism and prophetic reading 00:18:15 Members Only community promo 00:19:44 Brandon on other theories of Satan’s fall and post-Covid biblical supernaturalism 00:24:32 The main question can the Bible support time travel 00:26:51 God created time and stands outside it 00:31:41 Heaven eternity and different experiences of time 00:34:05 Hezekiah sundial Joshua and biblical mastery over time 00:36:23 Moses asks to see God’s glory 00:38:46 Hebrew word study on face before and behind 00:41:12 Elijah on the mountain and the Lord passing by 00:43:39 The Mount of Transfiguration as possible convergence point 00:46:03 Did God bring Moses and Elijah into the future 00:50:51 Moses burial Michael and Satan disputing the body 00:53:16 Elisha double portion and Moses Elijah typology 00:55:35 Brandon and Lindsy respond to Ryan’s theory 00:57:51 Apocrypha Enoch Jasher and interpretive value 01:00:00 Ryan on why he’s writing the new book 01:02:16 Brandon on theory building and scholarly work 01:04:18 Favorite time travel movies

    1h 9m
  3. E203 Hearing Heart

    APR 13

    E203 Hearing Heart

    For a long time, the church has assumed that if people just receive the right teaching, real transformation will follow. But this conversation pushes back on that idea in a big way. Michael Sullivant joins Brandon and Jen to explore what happens when brain science, attachment theory, and spiritual formation are brought into the same room. They unpack how the human brain was designed for belonging, why attachment is central to identity, and how emotional and relational maturity have too often been separated from spiritual maturity. The conversation moves into the difference between left-brained information and right-brained formation, how trauma leaves unfinished stories in people, and why joy is not a side issue but a major part of becoming like Christ. Michael also shares practical rhythms that can help rewire the brain toward peace, gratitude, and deeper connection with God and community. This one gets into discipleship, healing, joy, trauma, gratitude, group identity, healthy correction, and why the church may be overdue for a relational reformation. https://radiusministries.orghttps://lifemodelworks.org/ App on Apple Store- Hearing Heart - icon for app looks like episode graphic Books Mentioned-https://amzn.to/47Mb2BShttps://amzn.to/4c2msnyhttps://amzn.to/3Q1PMlt To get links to the Free books Michael mentioned- email sandy@unrefinedpodcast.com Timestamps:00:00:51 Why information alone does not create maturity00:03:17 Michael Sullivan’s background and conversion story00:07:57 From church leadership to Life Model Works and Radius Ministries00:10:19 What Radius Ministries does00:13:00 What neurotheology means00:15:07 Defining attachment and why it matters00:17:31 Attachment love and the image of God00:19:55 Adoption, belonging, and relational need00:22:19 Marriage, attachment, and why people matter most00:24:44 Attachment, addiction, and the right hemisphere00:26:52 Attachment to God and attachment to community00:29:09 Emotional maturity and spiritual maturity belong together00:31:32 Why the right hemisphere matters in discipleship00:33:56 Trauma as an unfinished story00:36:15 How to begin building healthy attachment with God00:38:40 Gratitude as a practice that rewires the brain00:41:06 Greeting, joy, and golden memories00:43:27 Golden memories and recognizing God’s presence00:45:54 Joy, sacred moments, and God memories00:48:17 Revisiting meaningful moments with Jesus00:50:39 Why feelings matter more than many Christians were taught00:53:00 Log jams, deep healing, and releasing what is already in us00:55:20 What it looks like to practice the disciplines of joy00:57:43 Love as gladness to be with someone01:00:09 Group identity and healthy correction01:02:34 Joy resistance and starting small01:05:00 Joy capacity and contagious peace01:06:58 Regulating the right hemisphere and identity practice01:09:23 Tongues, trust, and right-brain spirituality01:11:47 Five minutes of gratitude three times a day01:14:10 Trauma, fear, and the Holy Spirit as the spirit of mental health01:17:28 Jesus in the trauma story01:19:52 Humility, healing, and rich soil01:22:15 Relational reformation and the future of the church01:26:40 Recommended books and resources

    1h 32m
  4. E202 The Sightings No One Can Explain

    APR 6

    E202 The Sightings No One Can Explain

    https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com What happens when too many eyewitness accounts start sounding alike to ignore? In this episode, Marcus Ellis returns to the show to talk about the rise in Dogman reports, the work of the North American Dogman Project, and the kinds of encounters that leave people shaken for years. He explains why he sees Dogman as distinct from Sasquatch, what witnesses most often describe, and why these cases seem to carry a different kind of fear than most Bigfoot reports. https://northamericandogmanproject.com/ Timestamps:  00:00:51  Dogman as a question at the edge of folklore and the unseen realm 00:03:13 Marcus shares his role with the North American Dogman Project 00:05:39 Why Dogman encounters are treated more seriously than many Bigfoot cases 00:08:06 Why Marcus no longer sees Dogman as misidentified Sasquatch 00:10:37 The fear and trauma witnesses report after close encounters 00:13:03 Why Dogman gets less public acceptance especially in the Bible Belt 00:15:31 Bigfoot Dogman and the turn toward paranormal explanations 00:17:59 Dogman vs Bigfoot and why Dogman reports feel darker 00:20:27 Marcus recounts a Dogman sighting at Sky Lake 00:22:48 Todd’s terrifying face to face encounter in the woods 00:27:40 Yazoo County Sky Lake and Mississippi hotspot discussion 00:30:03 Strange locations local reports and more Mississippi stories 00:32:31 Why these creatures may be dangerous even if they do not always attack 00:34:51 SRT team reports and questions about DNA and government interest 00:37:22 Claims of government monitoring and asset theories 00:39:47 What Dogman reportedly looks like according to witnesses 00:44:37 Fear flesh and blood reality and the spiritual feel of encounters 00:47:00 Shape shifting skinwalker theories and why Marcus stays open but cautious 00:51:51 Dogman Nephilim and fitting cryptids into a biblical worldview 00:56:44 Giants abominations and why Canaan comes into the discussion 01:01:38 Blood defilement bestiality and corruption themes in scripture 01:04:02 Reptilian reports skepticism and eyewitness credibility 01:06:24 Why biblical and scientific lenses may both matter 01:11:06 The Bible as a supernatural book and not just a naturalistic text 01:13:27 Demon in the gaps and the danger of overexplaining everything spiritually 01:18:24 Biggest misconceptions about Dogman and fear of the outdoors 01:23:11 Are there male and female Dogman reports 01:25:31 Where to contact Marcus and the North American Dogman Project

    22 min
  5. E201 Out of Alignment: Why You’re Stuck (And How to Actually Get Free)

    MAR 30

    E201 Out of Alignment: Why You’re Stuck (And How to Actually Get Free)

    In this episode, we go beyond surface-level healing and step into the deeper mechanics of how the body, mind, and spirit actually work together. This isn’t about chasing trends or adopting buzzwords—it’s about understanding design. We unpack how trauma is stored, why subconscious beliefs shape your reality, and what it really means to come back into alignment with how God created you to function.  From quantum principles and nervous system regulation to identity, sonship, and the power of belief—this conversation challenges the idea that we’re broken and replaces it with something far more dangerous: That we’ve simply been out of alignment. If you’ve ever wondered why healing feels inconsistent, why certain struggles won’t go away, or why your prayers sometimes feel blocked… this one will hit different. And it might just change how you see everything. Grab info about IBRT Timestamps:00:00:04 Anxiety fear and why you cannot pray effectively in fear00:00:28 Unrefined intro and sponsor call to action00:00:51 Why this conversation goes deeper than surface level healing00:03:08 The subconscious as the missing piece in healing00:05:26 God did not design us broken00:07:40 Alignment vs brokenness framework explained00:10:07 Science and theology working together00:12:31 Allopathic medicine vs natural healing tension00:14:51 Subconscious beliefs and frequency explained00:17:14 Why fear and shame keep people stuck00:19:42 Sonship identity and authority over the earth00:21:59 Real example of hidden beliefs affecting life00:24:25 Reclaiming what the enemy has distorted00:26:48 Misuse vs proper use of spiritual principles00:29:08 Energy modalities and alignment with the practitioner00:31:28 Bless baptize or burn framework00:33:44 What muscle testing actually measures00:36:06 How the subconscious stores memory and trauma00:40:56 Nutrition and body response through energy00:43:18 Truth vs lie responses in the body00:45:42 Quantum communication and spiritual discernment00:48:05 Real case study of spiritual root cause healing00:52:53 Why the body lacks energy to heal00:55:16 Healing is not linear process00:59:59 Conviction vs condemnation in healing01:02:21 Vision boards intention and alignment01:07:01 God giving desires vs performance mindset01:11:39 Poverty mindset vs abundance01:14:06 Vision and belief shaping reality01:18:59 Sonship vs new age identity01:21:03 Biggest lie about healing01:23:24 Forgiveness beyond words01:25:52 Nervous system and triggers01:29:45 Self sabotage and success blocks01:33:46 Limiting beliefs and fear of influence01:36:13 Double binds explained01:41:02 Personal story of root belief formation01:43:24 Final thoughts on IBRT and healing tools01:45:38 How to connect and learn more

    1h 52m
  6. E200 Stop Feeding the Pain

    MAR 23

    E200 Stop Feeding the Pain

    In this our 200th episode of the Unrefined Podcast, Brandon continues his conversation with Jennifer Johnson on judgment in the heart, emotional healing, biblical meditation, identity in Christ, and practical heart transformation. They discuss Dr. Jim Richards’ How to Stop the Pain, the difference between head knowledge and heart knowledge, how judgment creates pain cycles, and why peace, healing, and healthy relationships begin with renewing the mind and writing truth on the heart. This episode is a powerful look at Christian emotional healing, heart beliefs, forgiveness, journaling, biblical identity, and how to walk in peace and freedom. join.unrefinedpodcast.com - become a sponsor How to Stop the Pain Book - click for link https://paperbell.me/jenniferjohnson-coach Timestamps:00:00:52 Introduction to Jennifer Johnson and part two setup00:01:20 Brandon shares personal testimony of depression and heart physics journey00:02:10 Importance of community and safe relationships in healing00:03:11 Introducing How to Stop the Pain and discussion direction00:04:10 Jennifer’s first encounter with Dr Jim Richards teachings00:05:00 Initial skepticism about sending away offense00:05:31 Story of offense and first practical application of sending it away00:07:00 Decision making and intention in heart transformation00:07:57 Immediate shift when choosing to release offense00:08:45 Pain is inevitable suffering is optional explained00:09:20 Brandon shares real life example from same morning00:10:08 Not about words but intention and heart posture00:10:45 Jennifer shares recent repentance for judgment00:12:00 How judgment operates and distorts perception00:12:27 Log in your own eye and focusing on faults00:13:30 How judgment snowballs into relational breakdown00:14:53 Twisted perception and spiritual distortion explained00:15:50 Becoming what you behold and sowing and reaping00:17:11 Law of the seed and identity transformation00:18:00 Identity crisis in culture and Genesis foundation00:19:28 Head knowledge vs heart knowledge00:20:10 God as a heart God and new heart reality00:21:52 Mind as gatekeeper and renewing the mind00:23:00 What righteousness actually means in practice00:24:11 Simplicity of believing who God says you are00:25:00 Engaging imagination in transformation00:26:32 Meditation reframed from biblical perspective00:27:30 Writing beliefs on the heart through emotion and imagery00:28:52 Identity illustration through royal family analogy00:30:00 House of David example and engaging scripture emotionally00:31:01 Imagination activating deeper understanding of scripture00:33:21 Living out of identity and supernatural expectation00:35:42 Faith vs fear and emotional belief systems00:36:30 Confession vs heart belief disconnect00:38:04 Living from the heart not behavior modification00:40:29 How heart beliefs are formed subconsciously00:42:51 Writing new beliefs through truth and scripture00:45:16 Identity producing promises and virtues00:47:35 Living from promises not striving00:49:57 Journaling as a tool for heart transformation00:52:18 Simple journaling practices and starting small00:54:33 Brandon realization about control and quiet time00:56:57 Journaling revealing hidden beliefs00:59:20 God reveals to heal not condemn01:01:38 First step to dismantling judgment01:03:11 Fixing others vs choosing peace01:04:01 Power of safe community without judgment01:06:16 Boundaries vs threats explained01:08:35 Judgment vs discernment tension01:11:00 Letting go of pain instead of holding offense01:13:20 Choosing righteousness over being right01:15:21 Identity transformation and encouragement01:17:14 Final thoughts and emotional closing joinapp.unrefinedpodcast.com - get our FREE app- join the conversation

    1h 21m
  7. E199 Behind Humanity: Mental Health and the Unseen Realm

    MAR 16

    E199 Behind Humanity: Mental Health and the Unseen Realm

    There is a growing conversation happening around trauma, mental health, spiritual warfare, and the unseen realm and this episode steps right into it.  Brandon and the Unrefined crew sit down with Dr. Natalie Atwell to explore what happens when human struggle is treated only through a clinical lens and the spiritual dimension is ignored. Dr. Atwell shares from her work as a clinical mental health therapist, educator, and researcher, explaining why some issues that present as mental health struggles may also carry deeper spiritual roots. This conversation covers trauma, epigenetics, attachment, generational patterns, personality disorders, suicide, dissociation, Freemasonry, occult influence, deliverance, inner healing, brain science, and the divine council worldview. Rather than reducing everything to demons or dismissing the supernatural entirely, this episode presses into a more integrated biblical framework for healing and freedom. If you’ve wrestled with depression, spiritual oppression, church trauma, counseling, or the question of how the unseen realm intersects with real life, this episode gives language to a conversation many people have felt but never knew how to articulate. https://mentalwarriorconsulting.com/ Timestamps:00:00:07 There are spiritual beings out there who have influenced us negatively00:00:51 Intro to mental health spiritual formation and the unseen realm00:03:10 Dr Natalie Atwell shares her background in counseling and Liberty University00:05:30 When clinical explanations stopped being enough00:07:46 Why some mental health struggles may have spiritual roots00:09:50 The cost of ignoring the unseen realm in modern mental health00:12:01 Why spiritual darkness questions rarely get asked in therapy00:14:23 Trauma early experiences and the imprint they leave00:16:48 The Body Keeps the Score trauma and generational patterns00:19:03 Epigenetics faith and healing00:21:11 Why spirituality alone is not enough if darkness is ignored00:23:20 Suicide spiritual oppression and going to war with the lie00:25:38 How skeptical therapists respond to this framework00:27:44 A case study involving dissociation and Freemasonry00:29:48 Personal testimony of darkness depression and survival00:32:03 Layered healing trauma choices and demonic influence00:34:04 Fraternal orders sororities and hidden influence00:36:28 The gray areas and asking better questions00:38:50 The Holy Spirit and discernment in counseling00:41:14 Why the divine council worldview matters for real people00:43:24 Why children may be targeted and the value they carry00:45:48 Assessing darkness without blaming everything on demons00:47:57 Narcissism pride attachment disorder and Babel00:50:16 How to distinguish trauma from spiritual oppression00:53:03 Finished work inner healing and the long road of restoration00:57:39 Renewing the mind after deliverance and healing00:59:35 Community attachment and why the church must show up01:01:55 What Christian mental health care could look like in five years01:04:08 SRA alien abduction language and believing people’s stories01:06:33 How pastors should respond to strange or disturbing testimonies01:08:56 House of David giants and the supernatural worldview of scripture01:11:02 Preparing the church for stranger days ahead01:12:35 Final encouragement greater is He who is in you

    1h 16m
  8. E198 ORP: The Rest of the Story

    MAR 9

    E198 ORP: The Rest of the Story

    https://join.unrefinedpodcast.com What happens when you keep pulling on the thread and realize the system goes deeper than you thought? In part two with Jason Spears and Christopher Dean of Operation Red Pill, Brandon picks the conversation right back up where it left off and pushes into one of the biggest tensions in the fringe space: how do you stay open to what’s real without drifting into nonsense? What follows is a sharp, honest, and surprisingly grounded conversation about discernment, patience, the limits of logic, the role of the Holy Spirit, and why the Bible is more than a reference book. It is a lens, a framework, and a fixed point in a world designed to keep people disoriented. They get into Mandela Effect claims, pareidolia, current events, spiritual manipulation, the church as counterforce, and the satanic control matrix as a reaction to what Christ has already accomplished. Add in stories about divine protection, coffee paid for by God, truck fires, Mercury years, and a prayer to close it all out, and you’ve got an episode that goes from heady to deeply personal in a hurry. https://orppodcast.com/ Timestamps:00:03:15 Discernment conspiracy facts and avoiding pareidolia 00:05:31 Patience current events and using the Bible as a window 00:07:51 Mandela Effect false memory and attacks on the Bible 00:10:15 War doctrine scripture and filtering misinformation 00:12:31 Logic Holy Spirit and resisting sensationalism 00:14:55 Straight out of Troja and why logic alone can fail 00:17:21 Fixed points Mercury time and God’s perspective 00:19:39 Age time and the limits of human frameworks 00:22:03 The Bible as the codebook against the control matrix 00:24:24 House of David giants and seeing scripture differently 00:26:45 Divine calendar secular time and cultural manipulation 00:29:09 Individual societal and global control as reaction to the gospel

    31 min
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What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.

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  • Creator
    Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters and The Unrefined Crew
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    182
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Unrefined LLC
  • Show Website
    Unrefined Podcast .com

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