Untamed Leader

Lauri Smith

Untamed Leader is a podcast for loving rebels who are ready to speak, live, and lead from the radiant pulse of their purpose—the wild-hearted ones dedicated to transforming the vibe in the room and igniting meaningful change. Through heart-to-heart conversations, breakthrough coaching moments, solo reflections, and inspiring stories from the edge of becoming, Untamed Leader explores what it means to lead from the inside out. Host Lauri Smith weaves together three essential leadership threads: vision, creativity, and voice. Here, leadership is a sacred art. Intuition guides creation.Presence shapes communication.And your voice channels the rhythm already alive in your soul. Whether you’re already visible—or standing at the edge of visibility—something in you knows: It’s time to lead untamed.

  1. 4d ago

    Born With It: Speaking With Charisma

    Send Lauri a message What if charisma isn't something you learn, it's something you were born with that got covered up? In this off-season episode, Lauri Smith joins Kelly Myerson on what was then the Mystic Nerd Squad Podcast (now Bridges and Beacons) for a wide-ranging conversation about authentic speaking, the soul suckers that drain your energy before you open your mouth, and why imitating Martin Luther King Jr. or Lady Gaga will never unleash your charisma (because that's theirs, not yours.) Lauri shares the acting class moment that changed everything, how the Speaker Alter Ego Quiz was born, and why speaking is a spiritual practice, not a performance skill. Kelly brings her own journey from holding back on stage to fully embracing a speaking style that's more maternal than commanding and more connected than controlled. Listen if you've ever wondered why your message isn't landing the way you know it could.  Topics covered: •  Why charisma is not one-size-fits-all •  The Seydways Studio moment: jaw tension, oneness, and the first time Lauri truly let go •  Soul Suckers: what they are, where they came from, and how they show up in speaking •  The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz: how it was born and why it types the resistance, not the person •  Silence, temperature checks, and why slowing down isn't the answer •  Speaking as a spiritual practice that raises consciousness 🎙️ Originally aired on the Mystic Nerd Squad Podcast with Kelly Myerson (now Bridges and Beacons) 🔗 Find Kelly: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bridges-and-beacons-podcast/id1603063964 1. Charisma is not one size fits all, and imitating someone else's will never work. Martin Luther King Jr.'s charisma was his. Lady Gaga's instrument is hers. Copying the style, the gestures, or the delivery of speakers we admire doesn't unleash our charisma, it covers it. We are each born with a one-in-eight-billion version that only comes through when we stop imitating and start transmitting. 2. Charisma isn't about being emotional. It's about befriending sensation. The most compelling speakers haven't suppressed their emotion or let it run them, they've befriended all of it. Sensation, feeling, energy: all harnessed in service of the room. That's what moves people from "I understood you" to "I felt you." 4. The mask is like carpal tunnel: an innate trait overused into a habit. If you're naturally funny, you can be funny. If you're naturally peppy, that's a gift. The problem isn't the trait, it's when that one trait becomes the only one available, hardened by repetition into a reflexive protection. Jivin’ Jokester, Peppy Pleaser, Deranged Manikin. They're not flaws. They're innate gifts that got stuck. 5. Don't slow down. Take breaths. Telling a fast talker to slow down doesn't work. Taking one breath more than you're comfortable with does. Silence isn't a gap, it's a temperature check. It's how you read the room, let the audience integrate, and decide what to do next.  6. The audience is not your adversary, and picturing them in underwear is insulting to both of you. Fight-or-flight training makes us walk in assuming danger. The truth is the people in your audience are there because someone they trust said you were worth hearing. At worst they're neutral. At best they're leaning in. Start from there and actually look at them. 7. Speaking is a spiritual journey, not a nerve-wracking obligation to survive. Most speaking training stops at fear. Lauri's work goes further and deeper. Speaking, like relationships or health, is a path back to your true self. And the more people speaking soulfully, from their actual resonance, not a mask, the more consciousness gets raised. The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz Take the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most! https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ If you love this show and you’re looking for some new shows to fill your queue, head over to feministpodcasterscollective.com to explore everything FPC has to offer.  Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

    Born With It: Speaking With Charisma
  2. Jul 21

    One in Eight Billion: Finding the Voice That's Truly Yours

    Send Lauri a message What's the difference between a talk people remember and one that actually changes something? It's not the words, it's whether they actually felt you. In this off-season episode, Lauri Smith joins Kat Polsinelli on Real Chat with Kat for a conversation about what it really means to speak from the heart. They cover the five speaker masks that dim your one-in-eight-billion radiance, why breath is almost always the answer when presence breaks down, and how to tell the difference between sharing your story because you need something and sharing it because it serves. Lauri also introduces her three-word framework (Intend. Align. Invite.) and explains why the audience is almost never your enemy (even when your nervous system insists otherwise). Topics covered: •  The five speaker masks: Porcelain Doll, Heady Hipster, Peppy Pleaser, Jivin' Jokester, Deranged Mannequin •  Aggressive vs. meek vs. the open-hearted middle, and what each looks like in the body •  Sharing your story to heal vs. sharing it to serve: a crucial distinction •  Why breath is the fastest path back to presence •  Intend. Align. Invite. Lauri's three-word mantra for embodied speaking •  Rebels with a cause: redefining what it means to lead differently 🎙️ Originally aired on Real Chat with Kat with Kat Polsinelli — — — Key Takeaways 1. The audience is not your enemy.  Fight-or-flight makes us walk into a room assuming danger. In reality, most audiences are neutral to leaning in — they came because someone they trust said you were worth hearing. Start from there. 2. There are three physicalities — and only one of them connects. Aggressive (pushing, closed heart, tunnel vision) and meek (testing the waters, shrinking) are both masks. The open-hearted middle — effort and ease in balance, heart open, full peripheral vision — is where presence lives. Your body already knows the difference. 3. Safe, semi-public spaces are the bridge between private and public. Private (one on one), public (the stage), and semi-public (an intimate group) serve different functions. The intimate group is where you build enough energetic escrow to carry the story without being undone by it. 4. Breath is almost always the answer. Not slow speech … Breath. Pauses that let your mind catch up, let the audience integrate, and return you to your body when your head starts tripping over itself. It's the fastest path back to presence. 5. Intend. Align. Invite. Set an emotional intention for the room before you open your mouth. Align body, breath, and energy with your most expressive self. Then invite: speak while watching faces, reading the room, feeling the vibe shift.  6. The difference between understanding and feeling. Understanding changes a thought. Being felt changes behavior. The gap between those two is the difference between just another speaker and being an untamed leader.  7. Your flaws are your rebellion's fuel. Rebels with a cause aren't rebelling against everything — they're rebelling toward something. The sensitivity, weirdness, or outsider quality you've been told to tone down is often exactly the thing that makes your cause land differently than anyone else's. The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz Take the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most! https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ If you love this show and you’re looking for some new shows to fill your queue, head over to feministpodcasterscollective.com to explore everything FPC has to offer.  Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

  3. Jul 7

    Soul Of Visibility

    Send Lauri a message What if visibility isn't about performing—it's about being felt? In this off-season drop, you're getting a front-row seat to a conversation that happened on Jeni Holla's Soul Chats podcast. Jeni and Lauri explore the soul of visibility: why performing for attention keeps us small, what it actually costs to let people in, and how speaking from your true frequency changes the energy of every room you enter. Lauri shares her life purpose statement, the fax machine moment that changed everything, and why she believes your voice isn't just yours—it's a necessary instrument in the human orchestra. If you've ever felt the tension between wanting to be seen and wanting to disappear, this conversation is your permission slip. Topics covered: •  Why most visibility advice is still wearing a 1952 mask •  The difference between performing and transmitting your frequency •  Scarecitement, beginner's mind, and eight billion different types of charisma •  Speaking as spiritual practice—and why it raises consciousness •  The soul of visibility: being felt, not just seen Takeaways1. Visibility without soul is just performance — and performance is exhausting. 2. Breathing is an act of leadership. 3. You don't need to be a drum set if you're a violin. 4. Speaking is a spiritual practice that raises consciousness. 5. Be the change means be — not just say. 6. Eight billion people, eight billion types of charisma. 7. The soul of visibility requires discernment and intention. 🎙️ Originally aired on Soul Chats with Jeni Holla 🔗 Find Jeni: https://jeniholla.com / @iamjeniholla The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz Take the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most! https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ If you love this show and you’re looking for some new shows to fill your queue, head over to feministpodcasterscollective.com to explore everything FPC has to offer.  Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

  4. Jun 23

    Curious First: A New Model for True Leaders

    Send Lauri a message What if your biggest leadership mistake wasn't the decisions you made, but the mental model you were carrying when you made them? Leadership coach Kurt Bush started out believing leaders had to have all the answers. Spoiler: it nearly cost him the room. What he discovered instead, through mentorship, a pandemic, and a lot of curiosity, reshaped how he shows up in every room, every conversation, every crisis. In this episode, Lauri and Kurt dive into one of the clearest lessons to come out of high-pressure seasons like the pandemic: how we do things matters more than what we do. From pastoring in 2020 to leading volunteer teams and cultures, Kurt shares why he aims to be the least anxious presence in the room and how curiosity supports that. They explore curiosity as a leadership skill, and why being present is often the first step toward better decisions, stronger relationships, and healthier conflict. Plus, the brimstone butterfly, a ropes course story, a physicist around a fire pit, and why the best pastor in town might have 10 people in the pews. TAKEAWAYS 1. The mental model you carry into leadership shapes everything, including whether people actually follow you. 2. Trying to hide that you don't have all the answers never works. People always know. 3. How we do things is even more important than what we do. 4. Curiosity and presence are linked: it's nearly impossible to be genuinely curious without being present at the same time. 5. Anxiety in leadership often comes from an outdated model: needing to be right, in control, having answers. Curiosity dissolves it. 6. "Do you want to say more about that?" is a question that creates space, buys processing time, and invites deeper thinking. 75% of the time, people work themselves to a more grounded place. 7. The room takes on the leader's personality. What energy are you bringing in? 8. A leader is simply someone with people following them — everything else works itself out from there. 9. The best leaders may be the quietest ones, leading closely with a few, not loudly with many. The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz Take the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most! https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ If you love this show and you’re looking for some new shows to fill your queue, head over to feministpodcasterscollective.com to explore everything FPC has to offer.  Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

  5. Jun 19

    Hide No More

    Send Lauri a message What if the version of you that shrinks is both timid and brilliant? In this retreat coaching session, we sit with Brian Perry, an authentic communication coach and singer-songwriter, as his body remembers a childhood rule: being seen is dangerous.  What unfolds is a vivid map of survival, from bullying to family dynamics, and the subtle ways a protector part can keep you safe while also keeping you small. A kid who learned that the most dangerous thing was to be seen. A man who believed he was meant to be a priest. A body that still knows how to make itself smaller, even at six foot six.  And underneath all of it — a version of Brian that people feel in the room before he says a word. This episode is a window into real, embodied coaching work. A living exploration into what gets held back, what it costs, and what becomes possible when you stop hiding behind the lockers. As you listen, put yourself in his shoes. Ask yourself the questions I'm asking him. Notice what stirs. TAKEAWAYSThe survival strategies that kept us safe as kids don't disappear at 53 — they go underground and keep running the show. Of course they do. They worked.Courageous cowering isn't weakness. It's a smart adaptation that held something precious until the danger passed. Honoring it is the first step to releasing it.Invisibility as a survival strategy and neurodivergence interact in particular ways — the "too much and never enough" experience can make staying small feel like the only safe option.Strength doesn't come despite the survival years. It comes because of them.You can't think your way into a new version of yourself. You have to feel the posture and inhabit the body of the leader you’re becoming.  Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

  6. Jun 16

    From Comfort To Calling With A Trusted Guide

    Send Lauri a message The most dangerous career trap is not failure. It’s comfort that slowly turns into a cage.  In this episode of the Untamed Leader Podcast, Lauri sits down with Dr. Karen Koepp, a strategic advisor who helps senior leaders navigate high-stakes turning points. At the heart of the conversation is a childhood expedition that still shapes how Karen guides clients today and the pattern she sees with leaders at every level: you can know exactly where you want to go, but the moment you step out the door, the doubts get loud. Can I do this? Will it cost too much? Am I really the kind of person who can consult others, write the book, or reinvent my career? In the face of these doubts "important but not urgent" often becomes the graveyard of our most meaningful work. Karen shares how she listens for the energy in a leader’s stories to find the real seeds of passion hiding under years of shoulds, and how she helps clients turn that passion into something structured, usable, and alive. If you’re a leader with something real to contribute and keep finding yourself back inside the house instead of out on the path, this one’s for you. TAKEAWAYS1. Knowing where you want to go is a necessary but insufficient condition for actually getting there. 2. Taming is sneaky. The comfortable structure that once kept you safe is often the same thing keeping you stuck. 3. Important but not urgent is where our most meaningful work goes to die. Connecting to our purpose helps create the motivation to get started or keep going.  4. Low-risk experiments beat big leaps when doubts cloud the way. 5. Going it alone is like trying to find the park in the dark. Generic programs built for someone else’s terrain make it worse, not better. 6. Aliveness has a somatic signature. A good guide listens for where the seeds of passion live in your story. 7. Take the first step. Don’t wait for it to become urgent — it won’t. The important thing is always a choice, and you have to be the one who makes it. The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz Take the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most! https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

  7. Jun 13

    Tending Your Inner Fire: A Live Coaching Moment

    Send Lauri a message What does untaming look like and how do we do it? This is a real coaching session from the Untamed Leader Spring Retreat: Embody Your Vision — unscripted, embodied, and alive. Dana is stepping into a new chapter: retiring from her career, feeling called to “ocean” more, and finding out what living with more presence, intention, and impact feels like in her body. What you’ll witness is the untaming process in real time: two trees, two ways of being, and the question underneath it all. As you listen, put yourself in Dana’s shoes. Ask yourself the same questions. Notice what comes up in your own body. This conversation isn’t just hers, it’s yours too. In this episode: The difference between fire under your ass and fire in your heartThe safety question underneath many untaming decisionsHow frequency, not status, guides the untamed leaderIf you’ve ever felt the pull between the life that looks right and the one that feels true — this episode is for you. Key TakeawaysThere’s a difference between fire under your ass and fire in your heart. One burns you out. The other fuels you forward.Confirming in the “tree farm” gives you credibility, standing, and external validation. It can also cost you yourself. Either/or thinking is usually a lie. When you trust yourself new options become clear and you can go anywhere.External validation and inner calling pull in opposite directions. Knowing which one is driving your decisions changes everything.One important question lurking underneath untaming moments: “Is it safe to be who I actually am?”When you’re present, you’re safe. Presence is not a condition of the environment, it’s something you carry.Leadership is a landscape, not a ladder. There is no top tree. There is only your tree.Untamed Leaders make decisions by frequency, not by status or prestige. You can feel the difference in your body.a The Speaker Alter Ego Quiz Take the Speaker Alter Ego quiz to find out which protective mask hides your natural radiance so you can learn how to get present, connect deeply, and share your vision when it matters most! https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Support the show Thank you so much for listening! Take the free Speaker Alter Ego Quiz to find out which protective mask is hiding your wild, untamed radiance. https://voice-matters.com/speaker-alter-ego-quiz/ Follow me on: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/voice_matters_llc/ Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauri-smith-voice-matters/ YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/@voicematters9646

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Untamed Leader is a podcast for loving rebels who are ready to speak, live, and lead from the radiant pulse of their purpose—the wild-hearted ones dedicated to transforming the vibe in the room and igniting meaningful change. Through heart-to-heart conversations, breakthrough coaching moments, solo reflections, and inspiring stories from the edge of becoming, Untamed Leader explores what it means to lead from the inside out. Host Lauri Smith weaves together three essential leadership threads: vision, creativity, and voice. Here, leadership is a sacred art. Intuition guides creation.Presence shapes communication.And your voice channels the rhythm already alive in your soul. Whether you’re already visible—or standing at the edge of visibility—something in you knows: It’s time to lead untamed.