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Conversations with Ministry Leaders is a limited series podcast where Carl Barnhill casually sits down with pastors and industry leaders to discuss how visuals are being used in churches and organizations around the world.

  1. Small Churches, Big Challenges: Digital Ministry with Hannah Coleman and Alex Lyons | S3 E13

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    Small Churches, Big Challenges: Digital Ministry with Hannah Coleman and Alex Lyons | S3 E13

    Episode 13 In this episode of Conversation with Ministry Leaders we talk about small churches facing significant challenges especially with digital ministries. In fact, 70% of South Carolina state's 1,900 Baptist churches are plateauing or declining. Meanwhile, many congregations struggle with limited resources and staff wearing multiple hats. Alex Lions and Hannah Coleman from the South Carolina Baptist Convention share insights on these pressing issues. They discuss how smaller churches are transitioning from in-person only to digital-first approaches. However, many church leaders lack the technical skills needed for modern communication. The conversation reveals a key shift in strategy. Previously, the Baptist Convention focused solely on reaching pastors as gatekeepers. Now, they're developing resources that speak directly to congregation members. Additionally, they're creating evangelistic content for streaming platforms like Amazon Prime and YouTube. Visual communication plays a crucial role in gospel outreach. Hannah explains that quality design doesn't require perfection. Instead, it needs clarity and aesthetic appeal to capture attention. Furthermore, different visual styles reach different audiences effectively. The discussion also explores AI's impact on church communications. Interestingly, Gen X and millennials embrace AI tools most readily. Meanwhile, both boomers and Gen Z show more resistance to artificial intelligence. This episode offers valuable insights for church leaders navigating digital transformation challenges while maintaining their evangelistic mission. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    13 min
  2. From Hymnals to Screens: The Visual Evolution of Modern Worship with Randy Kirby | S3 E12

    AUG 29

    From Hymnals to Screens: The Visual Evolution of Modern Worship with Randy Kirby | S3 E12

    Episode 12 Join us for an inspiring episode of Conversation with Ministry Leaders with Randy Kirby, worship pastor at First Baptist Simpsonville. Randy has served faithfully for 30 years. Moreover, he shares invaluable insights about ministry longevity and building lasting legacy. Tune in to learn about the visual evolution of modern worship. First, Randy discusses the keys to staying strong in ministry. He emphasizes knowing your calling with certainty and how maintaining a personal relationship with Christ remains essential. He also talks about being a team player, and how that helps you thrive long-term. Next, Randy walks through three decades of worship evolution at his church. Initially, they had one traditional service with choir and orchestra. However, they gradually added contemporary elements. Eventually, they introduced multiple service styles to reach different generations. Randy also explores the technology revolution in worship. Previously, there were no cell phones or pagers. Then came overhead projectors with plastic sheets. Finally, they installed permanent screens in their new worship center in 2007. Throughout these changes, Randy emphasizes unity between traditional and contemporary teams. He encourages musicians to build relationships across worship styles. Similarly, he shows how visual media serves the gospel message effectively. Randy explains how bumper videos help with practical transitions. Meanwhile, they strategically use dramatic worship videos to reinforce sermon themes. Ultimately, every visual element should point people toward Jesus. This episode offers practical wisdom for worship leaders navigating change. Whether you're just starting ministry or celebrating decades of service, Randy's insights will encourage and equip you. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    10 min
  3. Building Unity Between Worship Teams and Visual Production with Adam Westlake | S3 E11

    AUG 22

    Building Unity Between Worship Teams and Visual Production with Adam Westlake | S3 E11

    Episode 11 Worship leaders face increasing expectations beyond music. Today, they manage teams, budgets, and creative departments. However, many feel unprepared for these expanded roles. We're talking about building worship team unity and more on the Conversation with Ministry Leaders podcast. Adam Westlake from Worship Initiative joins Carl Barnhill to discuss comprehensive worship ministry. First, he explains how their organization resources worship teams holistically. Rather than focusing solely on music, they provide training in ministry and leadership skills. Additionally, they offer devotional content and doctrinal resources for each song. Next, they explore the critical relationship between worship and production teams. Unfortunately, these groups often work in silos. Instead, they should function as one unified team. Moreover, successful collaboration requires intentional relationship-building beyond work functions. Adam shares practical steps for team unity. Simple activities like shared meals create natural connection points. Meanwhile, casting a broader vision helps teams see beyond individual tasks. Ultimately, everyone serves the same goal: encouraging congregational worship. Finally, they discuss the role of visuals in worship leadership. Visuals matter when they serve the greater purpose of worship. Similarly to how music surrounds lyrics with beauty, visuals can enhance the worship experience.However, the focus should remain on glorifying God rather than showcasing technical capabilities. Throughout the conversation, Adam emphasizes that worship leaders must become multipliers. They need skills in conflict resolution, budget management, and team leadership. Consequently, organizations like Worship Initiative fill these training gaps. Most importantly, all team members, worship leaders, musicians, and production staff, work together to help congregations sing God's word. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    8 min
  4. Building Worship Teams: From Volunteers to Visuals with Andrew Lucius | S3 E10

    AUG 15

    Building Worship Teams: From Volunteers to Visuals with Andrew Lucius | S3 E10

    Episode 10 Andrew Lucius joins Conversation with Ministry Leaders to discuss worship ministry trends at Charleston Southern University. He talks about building worship teams and some of the trends for visuals in worship. First, he shares how COVID-19 initially devastated worship programs across the country. However, his program has bounced back dramatically. They've grown from just four majors two years ago to over twenty students today. Next, Andrew dives into volunteer management strategies. He emphasizes that recruiting volunteers isn't just about filling positions. Instead, it's about creating spaces for pastoral care and ministry. Furthermore, volunteers need to feel valued as people, not just for their skills. The discussion then shifts to technology's growing importance in worship. During the pandemic, tech workers became heroes in many churches. Consequently, worship leaders now face pressure to master multiple areas beyond music. They're expected to handle tech teams, creative departments, and communications. Additionally, Andrew addresses common struggles facing new graduates. Surprisingly, it's not musical ability or technical skills that cause problems. Rather, character development and conflict management present the biggest challenges. These young leaders need more real-world church experience during their training. Finally, the conversation explores visual media's role in worship. Andrew explains that churches have always communicated visually through stained glass and architecture. However, he reminds listeners that faith is primarily word-based. Therefore, visuals should support the gospel message, not overshadow it. Throughout the interview, Andrew provides practical insights for worship leaders, pastors, and church staff navigating today's ministry landscape. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    12 min
  5. Sacred Visuals: How Media Shapes Congregational Worship with John Green with John Green | S3 E9

    AUG 8

    Sacred Visuals: How Media Shapes Congregational Worship with John Green with John Green | S3 E9

    Episode 9 Join us in this episode of Conversation with Ministry Leaders, as we talk with worship pastor John Green from Riverland Hills in Columbia, South Carolina. He shares essential insights for worship leaders, with a focus on "sacred visuals" or liturgical elements. John works at his church, leading choir, orchestra, and congregation during weekly gatherings. He dives into some of his workshop on liturgy and theology in worship services. Throughout the conversation, John emphasizes how visual media supports clear messaging. Additionally, he discusses how screens help worship leaders communicate more effectively through body language and facial expressions. Moreover, he highlights the importance of visual elements being congruent with the message. Next, John explores his creative team's approach to worship design. Specifically, he explains how they make ancient texts feel alive and relevant through font choices, camera angles, and lighting. Furthermore, he outlines his three-part workshop framework. First, he covers "ruts of righteousness" - valuable traditions practiced for centuries. Second, he addresses "holy habits" that extend beyond Sunday mornings. Finally, he discusses "changing lanes" - how to shepherd congregations through worship transitions. Most importantly, John observes an encouraging trend among emerging worship leaders. Specifically, they're seeking ancient, concrete practices that provide stability in rapidly changing times. Consequently, these leaders want something deeper than musical frills - they desire tried-and-true traditions rooted in scripture. Overall, he offers practical wisdom for worship leaders seeking to blend ancient practices with modern presentation. Whether you're planning services or leading creative teams, John's insights will help you create meaningful worship experiences that honor both tradition and contemporary communication needs. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    7 min
  6. How Technology and Visuals Transform Church Growth with Kevin Martin | S3 E8

    AUG 1

    How Technology and Visuals Transform Church Growth with Kevin Martin | S3 E8

    Episode 8 Digital discipleship is transforming how churches connect with their communities. In this episode of  Conversation with Ministry Leaders we sit down with Kevin Martin, IT Director at the South Carolina Baptist Convention. Kevin shares his insights on the critical role technology plays in modern ministry. In fact he explains how technology and visuals transform church Growth. First, he explores how people discover churches today. Statistics reveal that 80% of people research churches online before visiting. Therefore, your digital presence matters more than ever. Kevin explains how poor visual quality can actually drive people away from your ministry. Next, he examines practical production standards. These include proper lower third placement, color matching, and strategic camera shots. Kevin emphasizes that excellence doesn't mean perfection. However, maintaining industry standards prevents distractions from the gospel message. Additionally, he addresses staffing strategies for church media teams. Kevin recommends a hybrid approach combining internal project management with external expertise. Don't fear outsourcing when it serves your ministry goals better. Finally, he tackles the bottom line impact of visual quality. Poor visuals communicate carelessness to potential visitors.This directly affects church growth, tithing, and cooperative giving. In today's digital age, visual excellence isn't optional—it's essential for effective ministry and furthering the Great Commission. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    11 min
  7. Why Choirs and Visuals Matter in Worship with Josh Epton and Julie McNeely | S3 E7

    JUL 25

    Why Choirs and Visuals Matter in Worship with Josh Epton and Julie McNeely | S3 E7

    Episode 7 Josh Epton and Julie McNeely from Church of the Mill in Spartanburg, South Carolina join Conversation with Ministry Leaders and share their expertise on building thriving worship choirs. First, they discuss how choirs are making a comeback after years of decline. Many churches removed choirs during the praise and worship movement. However, leaders now recognize the void this created. Next, they explore the biblical foundation of choirs. Throughout scripture, choirs led the charge in spiritual warfare. Similarly, modern worship choirs serve as a diverse representation of the congregation. This visual diversity helps worshippers identify and engage more deeply. Then, the conversation shifts to visual support systems. Technology has transformed how choirs operate. Previously, choir members held books during worship. Now, confidence monitors free their hands for full-body worship leading. Additionally, strategic screen placement keeps eyes lifted rather than looking down. Furthermore, Josh and Julie emphasize collaboration with creative teams. They begin all planning with scripture. Subsequently, they work closely with visual teams to create cohesive worship experiences. This includes coordinating background colors, scripture videos, and LED wall content. Finally, they address potential visual distractions. Too much movement can hinder worship. Conversely, thoughtful visuals enhance the spiritual journey. They avoid concert-style elements like haze on regular Sundays. Instead, they focus on intentional visual choices that support the message. Throughout the discussion, both speakers stress the importance of surrendering to the Holy Spirit's leading. Ultimately, they view themselves as brushes in God's hands, painting worship experiences that draw congregations closer to Him. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

    13 min
  8. From Distraction to Support: Making Visuals Work for Worship with Jonathan Hazle | S3 E6

    JUL 18

    From Distraction to Support: Making Visuals Work for Worship with Jonathan Hazle | S3 E6

    Episode 6 Worship leader Jonathan Hazle joins the Conversation with Ministry Leaders show to discuss building authentic worship bands. First, he emphasizes that worship teams should reflect their congregation, not copy other churches. Instead, leaders must focus on the people God has entrusted to them each Sunday. He also talks about using visuals for worship. Next, Jonathan explores how song selection, arrangement, and production should match the church's context. Moreover, he stresses that worship leaders should be committed church members. He highlights that only pastors and worship teams get to lead the entire congregation. Then, the conversation shifts to visual media's crucial role in worship. Jonathan explains how the person running ProPresenter is actually one of the most important worship leaders. Furthermore, visuals can either support worship or become major distractions. Additionally, Jonathan shares practical collaboration tips. He recommends Thursday run-throughs to check every lyric and transition. Also, he suggests asking production teams for input rather than just giving orders. This approach creates true teamwork instead of hierarchy. Finally, Jonathan discusses detailed communication strategies. He describes using ProPresenter labels to cue camera operators and technical staff. These labels announce upcoming solos or speaking moments three slides in advance. Consequently, the entire team stays synchronized. Throughout the episode, Jonathan emphasizes that every screen represents an opportunity to lead people into God's presence. Therefore, churches must be faithful stewards of their visual resources, whether they have one TV or massive LED walls. Ultimately, authentic worship happens when teams work together to serve their specific congregation rather than imitating others. CONNECT WITH CHURCH VISUALS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/groups/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/churchvisuals⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ conversations@churchvisuals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SHOW NOTES⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Conversations with Ministry Leaders is a limited series podcast where Carl Barnhill casually sits down with pastors and industry leaders to discuss how visuals are being used in churches and organizations around the world.

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