The Variety Show

Adam Sternberg

The Variety Show is a celebration of the extraordinary people who bring live performance to life. Each week, host Adam Sternberg sits down with a dazzling range of guests – from magicians to contortionists, gospel singers to tap dancers to uncover the real stories behind their craft. How do artists decide to dedicate their lives to performing? What inspires them, challenges them, and keeps them coming back to the stage? Through intimate conversations, Variety gives listeners a behind-the-curtain look at the journeys, passions, and influences that shape today’s performers. Whether you’re a fan of live entertainment, a lover of the arts, or simply curious about the paths less traveled, this podcast offers a fresh perspective on the world of performance. If you have any comments about the podcast or are a performer who wants advice please do email info@thevarietyshowpodcast.co.uk

  1. Jul 9

    Emotional scurvy, AI magic and loss and why poetry shouldn't be analysed

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@thevarietyshowpod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thevarietyshowpod/ If you have any comments about the podcast or are a performer who wants advice please do email info@thevarietyshowpodcast.co.uk Chris Hogg is a playwright, educator and Associate Professor whose work explores creativity, storytelling and the relationship between human imagination and artificial intelligence. After an unconventional childhood, careers spanning call centres, teaching in Sri Lanka, technology companies and higher education, Chris has developed a distinctive voice as both a writer and researcher. His work examines why humans create, what AI can and cannot replicate, and why presence, collaboration and lived experience remain at the heart of great art. Episode summary In this episode of Variety, playwright and educator Chris Hogg joins us for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, theatre and artificial intelligence. Chris reflects on an unconventional childhood in Bournemouth, running away from home as a teenager, discovering writing as a way to make sense of the world and the winding career that took him from call centres and Silicon Valley tech to university lecturing. Together we explore what separates human creativity from AI, why mistakes and “bruised knowledge” matter, the importance of live performance in an increasingly digital world, and how technology might ultimately make the arts more accessible rather than replace them. In this episode: Growing up in Bournemouth and the experiences that shaped Chris’s writingRunning away from home and finding refuge with his grandmotherDiscovering poetry, studying English and becoming a playwrightWorking in call centres, technology and teaching around the worldThe relationship between creativity, theatre and artificial intelligenceWhy human presence, mistakes and collaboration still matterAI as a creative assistant rather than a replacement for artistsMaking the arts more accessible in an age of rapidly advancing technology

    Emotional scurvy, AI magic and loss and why poetry shouldn't be analysed
  2. Jul 2

    Cabbage: Drag Kings, Misogyny and the Art of Becoming a Clown

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@thevarietyshowpod Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/thevarietyshowpod/ If you have any comments about the podcast or are a performer who wants advice please do email info@thevarietyshowpodcast.co.uk Cabbage the Clown (Eliza) is an award-winning drag clown, performer and costume maker whose work blends clowning, drag, cabaret and theatre. After training in costume construction at the Central School of Speech and Drama and working behind the scenes in theatre, they found their artistic home through drag performance and clowning. Their work explores identity, gender, depression, queer culture and the absurd, combining heartfelt storytelling with chaotic comedy. Their solo show Cinema Drome has appeared at the Edinburgh Fringe, while Cabbage continues to perform across London’s drag, comedy and clown scenes. Episode summary In this episode of Variety, Cabbage the Clown joins us to talk about finding a creative identity through drag, clowning and performance. The conversation begins with childhood dance classes in Greater Manchester before moving through musical theatre, studying costume construction at Central School of Speech and Drama and working professionally in theatre wardrobe departments. Cabbage explains how discovering drag kings and theatrical clowning during university led to the creation of the Cabbage character, inspired by vulnerability, depression and teenage insecurity. Along the way, we discuss London’s drag scene, why drag kings remain underrepresented, costume design, Edinburgh Fringe, audience interaction and how performance can become a home for every creative passion. In this episode: Growing up in Greater Manchester, dance classes and early performing experiencesMusical theatre, Les Misérables and studying costume construction at Central School of Speech and DramaWorking professionally in theatre wardrobe, costume supervision and designDiscovering drag kings during university and creating the Cabbage the Clown characterHow clown training transforms insecurity into performanceDrag kings, misogyny and representation within the drag industryEdinburgh Fringe, Cinema Drome and creating theatrical clown performancesWhy drag, clowning and comedy have become one creative hub

    Cabbage: Drag Kings, Misogyny and the Art of Becoming a Clown
  3. May 28

    Bear Mitzvahs, Tommy Cooper & mind-altering theatre

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@thevarietyshowpod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thevarietyshowpod/ If you have any comments about the podcast or are a performer who wants advice please do email info@thevarietyshowpodcast.co.uk Ian Saville is a performer, magician and ventriloquist who has been practising socialist magic for over 40 years. Rooted in the radical theatre and alternative cabaret movements of the 1970s and 80s, Ian has developed a unique act that uses the language of magic and illusion to explore left-wing politics, class struggle and social history. He performs with a ventriloquist dummy of Karl Marx and has shared stages with performers including Ben Elton and Linda Smith. Episode summary In this episode of Variety, Ian Saville joins us to explore a life spent finding the politics in magic and the magic in politics. The conversation moves through his Jewish upbringing in Whitechapel, his schooling at Hackney Downs alongside the influence of playwright Harold Pinter, his early obsession with magic shops and Tommy Cooper, and his years with the radical theatre group Broadside Mobile Workers Theater. Ian also reflects on the alternative cabaret scene, the question of whether art can change minds, and why he has spent four decades performing tricks that make audiences think as well as laugh. Along the way, he performs the Class Struggle rope trick live, teaches the host a knot, and brings out Karl Marx for a word or two. In this episode: Ian's Jewish upbringing in Whitechapel and schooling at Hackney Downs alongside the influence of Harold PinterDiscovering magic through childhood kits, West End magic shops and the comedy of Tommy CooperHow Broadside Mobile Workers Theater turned Ian into a socialist magicianPreaching to the converted and whether theatre and performance can genuinely change mindsLive magic: the Torn and Restored Newspaper, rope trick teaching and Karl Marx on ventriloquismThe alternative cabaret scene, Palestinian solidarity and what is coming next00:00 — Opening performance: socialist magic and left-wing splits01:26 — Growing up Jewish in Whitechapel04:37 — Hackney Downs School, Harold Pinter and Joe Brearley06:18 — Falling in love with magic: books, shops and West End dealers09:25 — Butlins, Tommy Cooper and learning comedy magic16:12 — University, acting and using magic as an audition piece18:08 — Jewish pantomime and collaborative theatre22:22 — The origins of socialist magic and Broadside Mobile Workers Theater24:33 — Preaching to the converted and engaging workers through drama28:57 — The Torn and Restored Newspaper: a trick about political splits30:55 — Teaching the host a rope trick live35:35 — Karl Marx speaks: ventriloquism and socialist history41:11 — Alternative cabaret, Ben Elton and Linda Smith43:31 — The Class Struggle rope trick performed in full48:30 — Art, politics and the shows that followed51:11 — Activism, Palestine and what is next

    Bear Mitzvahs, Tommy Cooper & mind-altering theatre
  4. May 21

    Sarah Louise Young On Being a Cabaret Polymath, Kate Bush & Live Grit

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok Instagram YouTube If you have any comments about the podcast or are a performer who wants advice please do email info@thevarietyshowpodcast.co.uk Sarah-Louise Young is an actress, writer, director, improviser and internationally renowned cabaret performer. Known for her acclaimed solo work, including An Evening Without Kate Bush and Julie Madly Deeply, Sarah-Louise has built a career around live performance, storytelling, music, comedy and audience connection. Episode summary In this episode of Variety, Sarah-Louise Young joins us to explore the world of cabaret, solo performance, improvisation and the realities of building a creative life. The conversation moves through her upbringing in Kent, early love of singing and theatre, years of making work at the Edinburgh Fringe, and the long process of finding her artistic voice. Sarah-Louise also reflects on making shows from scratch, the importance of failure, the relationship between performer and audience, and why live performance still matters in an increasingly digital world. Along the way, the episode looks at creativity, resilience, rejection, class, arts funding, AI, fame, and the strange, beautiful power of being in a room with an audience. In this episodeSarah-Louise’s upbringing in Kent and early love of performingGrowing up with music, singing, choirs and homemade variety showsDiscovering theatre and cabaret through the Edinburgh FringeThe influence of Victoria Wood, Fascinating Aïda and Stephen SondheimWhat cabaret means and why audience connection mattersMaking Julie Madly Deeply and An Evening Without Kate BushHonouring iconic artists while creating something originalImprovisation, Showstopper! and learning to fail publiclyWhy live performance does not need to be perfectRejection, reviews and being judged as a performerPantomime, vaudeville and the joy of theatrical traditionThe cost, privilege and pressure of the Edinburgh FringeArts funding, access, education and valuing creativityThe work audiences do not see behind a performance 00:00 — Opening preview & introduction to Sarah-Louise Young01:54 — Growing up in Kent and discovering performance08:39 — Early variety shows and falling in love with the Edinburgh Fringe10:10 — Inspirations: Victoria Wood, Fascinating Aïda and Sondheim11:44 — What cabaret really means15:42 — Julie Andrews, voice loss and Julie Madly Deeply19:22 — Creating An Evening Without Kate Bush23:09 — Showstopper!, improv and learning to fail publicly26:54 — Rejection, reviews and life as a performer33:25 — The Bob Ross Effect, creativity and mental health39:24 — Edinburgh Fringe, privilege and the cost of making art48:26 — AI, human creativity and why live performance still matters

    Sarah Louise Young On Being a Cabaret Polymath, Kate Bush & Live Grit
  5. May 14

    Scrap Opera Houses? Art, Business & Classical Music’s Clique

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok Instagram  YouTube  Raffaello Morales is the musical and managing director of the Fidelio Orchestra, a London based organisation reimagining how audiences experience classical music. Originally from Rome, and trained in both music and physics, Raffaello’s journey has taken him from academia to finance and ultimately to Fidelio, where he brings together live performance, hospitality, events and cultural programming to make music feel fresh, social and alive. Episode summary  In this episode of Variety, Raffaello Morales joins us to explore the shifting world of classical music, live performance and cultural spaces. The conversation moves through the realities of running Fidelio, the balance between artistic ambition and commercial pressure, and the challenge of making classical music feel more open, relevant and alive. Raffaello also reflects on conducting, audience connection, arts funding, music education and the role culture can play in uncertain times. Along the way, the episode looks at what makes live performance so powerful; not perfection, but presence, risk, communication and the shared experience between performer and audience. In this episode  Raffaello’s upbringing in Rome and early musical trainingStudying music and physics side by sideMoving to London for postgraduate study and a PhDWorking in finance before leaving bankingBuilding Fidelio as both an orchestra and events businessThe relationship between music, hospitality and communityWhy technique alone is not enough in performanceThe problem of elitism and access in classical musicArts funding, education and the role of governmentHow classical music can adapt for modern audiencesConducting, score study and interpretationThe importance of eye contact, physicality and leadershipThe beauty of imperfection in live performanceThe future of culture, education and meaningful shared experiences

    Scrap Opera Houses? Art, Business & Classical Music’s Clique
  6. Apr 30

    Max Fulham on ventriloquism, the ‘GUH’ sound, and the fame-hungry relative he can’t escape

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok Instagram YouTube Max Fulham is a comedian and ventriloquist who has been performing professionally since his teenage years. Known for his sharp improvisation, playful comedy and inventive use of puppets and everyday objects, Max has built a distinctive career on the comedy circuit and beyond. His work combines classic ventriloquism technique with modern stand-up, character comedy and a deep love of puppetry. From comedy clubs and Edinburgh Fringe to major theatre stages, Max brings a fresh, funny and highly skilled approach to one of variety entertainment’s most misunderstood art forms. Episode summary In this episode of The Variety Show Podcast, Adam Sternberg talks with comedian and ventriloquist Max Fulham about how a childhood Christmas puppet unexpectedly became the start of a career. Max reflects on growing up between East London, Essex, Scotland and Surrey, discovering performance through singing, dancing, magic and puppets, and teaching himself ventriloquism by watching videos online and practising in front of a bedroom mirror. The conversation explores the craft behind ventriloquism, from lip control and difficult sounds to character creation, puppetry, improvisation and the hidden acting involved in making a puppet feel alive. Max also introduces some of his puppets, including a restored vintage ventriloquist figure and his character Eugene. Adam and Max discuss comedy clubs, Edinburgh Fringe, surprise support slots for Engelbert Humperdinck, the importance of play, and the reality of turning a passion into a profession. They also talk about arts education, creativity in schools, and why live performance remains deeply human in an increasingly digital world. Funny, thoughtful and full of insight, this episode reveals the skill, discipline and joy behind modern ventriloquism. In this episode Getting a first puppet at nine years oldGrowing up across East London, Essex, Scotland and SurreyDiscovering performance, comedy and puppetryTeaching himself ventriloquism through YouTubeChoosing performance over universityHow ventriloquism actually worksCreating puppet characters and voicesVintage ventriloquist figures and puppet historyComedy clubs, Edinburgh Fringe and support slotsArts education, AI and advice for performers

    Max Fulham on ventriloquism, the ‘GUH’ sound, and the fame-hungry relative he can’t escape
  7. Apr 23

    Xnthony on Madonna, Kitchkock and Oliver Cromwell

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok Instagram YouTube Xnthony is an Irish writer, performer and producer whose work spans musical theatre, cabaret, performance art and live interdisciplinary performance. Originally from Roscommon, Ireland, he has built a distinctive career creating bold, pop-infused work that blends history, identity, politics and humour. His projects often explore queerness, Irish culture, community life and the ways pop music can be used as a storytelling tool. Over the years, he has developed work through fringe theatre, cabaret venues and large-scale arts support in Ireland, building a reputation for theatrical ideas that are playful, provocative and original. His acclaimed work includes Oliver Cromwell Is Really Very Sorry, and he is also developing new projects including Lourdes and Troll Farm. Episode summary In this episode of The Variety Show Podcast, Adam Sternberg talks with writer, performer and producer Xnthony about the winding path that led him from rural Roscommon to a career in experimental theatre, cabaret and musical storytelling. Xnthony reflects on growing up in an adopted family, discovering creativity through music, drama and community arts, and learning to overcome intense stage fright as a teenager. He shares what it was like coming out at 16 in rural Ireland, and how queerness, difference and a sense of otherness shaped the way he sees the world and makes work. The conversation explores the realities of building a life in the arts without formal theatre training, from early performance art pieces in post-crash Ireland to fringe shows, survival jobs and years of developing projects with limited resources. Xnthony also speaks passionately about the importance of public arts funding, class access in the creative industries, and why Ireland has become such a strong force in producing world-class artists. Adam and Xnthony also discuss pop music as dramaturgy, the influence of artists such as Madonna, Goldfrapp, French and Saunders and Kenneth Williams, and the creative power of cabaret as a live form. They dive into the origins of Oliver Cromwell Is Really Very Sorry, a pop musical that reimagines one of the darkest figures in Irish history, and talk about Xnthony’s upcoming work Lourdes, which examines faith, miracles and theatrical spectacle. Funny, honest and full of insight, this episode is a fascinating look at identity, ambition, art-making and what it really takes to build a creative life on your own terms.

    Xnthony on Madonna, Kitchkock and Oliver Cromwell
  8. Apr 16

    Just good to introduce her character with Laura Wyatt O'Keefe

    To stay updated on future episodes, follow us on: TikTok Instagram YouTube Artist bio Laura Wyatt O’Keeffe is a multi-award-nominated Irish theatre-maker, actor, drag king and DJ whose work spans theatre, cabaret, live art and immersive performance. Raised in Cork and trained at East 15 Acting School, she has built a career creating and performing work that blends storytelling, ritual, humour and audience interaction. Her practice moves between conventional acting, devised theatre and drag performance, often exploring identity, community, belief and connection. Through her drag king character Father Jesse, Laura reimagines Irish Catholic ritual through a queer, comic and deeply human lens, bringing performance into theatres, clubs and other unexpected spaces. Episode summary In this episode of The Variety Show, Adam Sternberg speaks with Laura Wyatt O’Keeffe about her path from childhood theatre in Cork to acting, theatre-making and drag performance. Surrounded by rehearsal rooms from an early age through her playwright and director aunt, Laura grew up watching stories being built from the inside and began performing herself while still very young. She reflects on how those early experiences shaped her understanding not only of acting, but of audience, structure and the wider world of performance. The conversation follows her journey through university and drama school, where she trained as an actor while also beginning to make her own work. Laura speaks candidly about ambition, fame, funding and the difficult balance between artistic vision and practical survival, as well as the privileges that time, money and access can bring to making great work. A major turning point came during and after the pandemic, when Laura found herself drawn more strongly to drag and cabaret than to traditional theatre. Through her drag king character Father Jesse, an Irish Catholic priest delivering mass in unexpected settings, she discovered a form that allowed for deeper audience interaction, humour, ritual and shared experience. Together, Adam and Laura explore religion, performance, community, queer identity and the power of art to help audiences recognise themselves in unfamiliar worlds. The episode closes with an Irish language lesson and a discussion of Laura’s work beyond performance, including an opera-based breathing programme supporting people with long Covid. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Father Jesse and the themes of ritual, identity and connection 00:01 Laura Wyatt O’Keeffe’s career across theatre, drag and DJing 00:02 Growing up in Cork and being surrounded by theatre from childhood 00:04 Early performing experiences and learning by watching rehearsal rooms 00:09 The Irish arts scene, cultural identity and support for artists 00:11 University, East 15 and developing as an actor and maker 00:17 Fame, resources and the realities of sustaining an artistic career 00:19 The pandemic, drag, cabaret and discovering a new performance language 00:23 Audience impact, live connection and why interaction matters 00:26 Creating Father Jesse and using drag to explore religion, ritual and queerness 00:31 Performing for different audiences and challenging assumptions 00:38 Returning to acting and balancing long-form theatre with drag 00:39 Irish language lesson and lighter moments 00:40 Work beyond the stage, including opera and long Covid breathing sessions 00:44 Artistic influences, storytelling and what performance can do If you want, I can also reduce these timestamps to 10 to match the format you used for the other episode.

    Just good to introduce her character with Laura Wyatt O'Keefe

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The Variety Show is a celebration of the extraordinary people who bring live performance to life. Each week, host Adam Sternberg sits down with a dazzling range of guests – from magicians to contortionists, gospel singers to tap dancers to uncover the real stories behind their craft. How do artists decide to dedicate their lives to performing? What inspires them, challenges them, and keeps them coming back to the stage? Through intimate conversations, Variety gives listeners a behind-the-curtain look at the journeys, passions, and influences that shape today’s performers. Whether you’re a fan of live entertainment, a lover of the arts, or simply curious about the paths less traveled, this podcast offers a fresh perspective on the world of performance. If you have any comments about the podcast or are a performer who wants advice please do email info@thevarietyshowpodcast.co.uk