Waking Up From Work Dave Swillum & Ryan Carrigan

E70: No Means Why & How
We all hear no everyday but it’s how we perceive that answer and response with actions that defines who achieves and who doesn’t. You can’t make a living doing that, you can’t get a loan for that, you can’t afford it, you can’t ever live that way……. When I hear no I am thinking about WHY they are saying it and HOW I will get around it to continue on my mission.
 
Let’s talk about the different and sometimes secret ways people say no to us in our creative living journeys. No and yes never mean what we think when we analyze why they are being said and how we can move forward.
 
In This Episode We Cover
No doesn’t mean no, ask why, figure out how
Friends and family judgement taken in
Network
Speaking with others that do what you do often
No and Yes are circumstantial, these are arbitrary
How can you do it? Why did someone or something say No?
The why is important
You will always hear no
Mentors aren’t always right
Good mentors challenge you but don’t stop you
Quotes
“ When someone says no it’s almost like an immediately how am I going to do this, like they didn't’ say anything. When someone builds a little damn in the river its going to pull off in different streams until it goes where it’s going to go, it’s going to go there.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
“ In real life we know that there are thousands and thousands of people doing it in real life, but if we don’t go out and meet any of them it feels like its a TV show and isn’t possible. We need to network.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
“You don’t need anything to start anything.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
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Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing
www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com
 

E69:
 
This week is a blend of how to brand a business aesthetically in person and digitally and how to create an experience. We hang with Hilary Lane of Craft Business Builders who talks on her story of starting her first business when she was 26 and going through realizations of what she did and didn’t want out of a business. Finding the parts we love and going all in.
 
We speak through rejection and ways of making things work to get going along the way. After speaking through Hilary’s story we dive into speaking on knowing what type of business owner you are in your creative business and what it is trying to portray. Great blend of creative business, real estate, branding, and a story that will make you feel like you aren’t alone when things get tough along the way.
 
 
In This Episode We Cover
Trial by fire
Bigger picture
Don’t take no
Ratings
What part of the business do you love?
Getting out when its wrong
Break
Friends moving, finding location
Separating different brands
What’s your message?
How can you not afford it?
 
Quotes
 
“ Really, I feel like I can do a lot, but I’m not being given the opportunity to do everything I wanna do here and I’m not being challenged anymore. If I go to another job I feel like I’m just a dime a dozen.” - Hilary Lane
 
“ Do whatever you have to do, guerrilla warfare to make it so you can do what you want to do.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
“ I hate knowing how hard it is to run a business and how many of them are going to fail.” - Hilary Lane
 
 
Hilary’s Recommended Resources
 
How I Built This Podcast
By Guy Raz
https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-thisSearch
 
 
Hilary’s Links
 
IG@hillary.katherine
@thenewhampshiregetaway
@craftbusinessbuilders
@getaway.homedesign
 
Craft Business Builders
https://www.craftbusinessbuilders.com/
 
Getaway Vacation Rentals
https://www.getawayvacationproperties.com/?fbclid=IwAR12EOm0SvuDDkBFBPC8Y9M-FKFTxReU9IRvVsAu2dK6orIopiysQgqgL4I
 
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For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
www.crawlspaceaudio.com
 
Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing
www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com
 

E68:
 
Zachary and I met when he tuned in regularly watching our IG live show on Thursday nights, I hired him to take my band photos, and here we are!
 
Zach and I talk about his getting into full time photography and looking for the human element and story of a project. Speaking about how to work with clients personalities, how to make a statement, and how to make photos work for you.
 
If you like photography or want to go full time in the space this ones for you or anyone creative looking inside other projects, ways of getting into it, and the creative story telling from any medium
 

In This Episode We Cover
Changing paths
Collaborative conversation
Finding people through social to outside relationship
What story are we trying to tell?
Using YOUR medium to story tell
Getting your ideas out there before you start working with others
Filtering out clients to get the right fit
Your stamp on your work
The human element
Quotes
 
“ Because it looked like a trailer but it was actually a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house, the photos were that bad that I saved $40,000 on it, thats what good photos can do.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
“ When we were doing the band shoot it was almost a conversation. I want to hear your input, you’re trying to put out the theme of your music, or the idea of your music.” - Zachary James
 
“Using the thing that you have as a medium that you’re best with to convey a story, that’s what being a creative is.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
 
Zach’s Recommended Resources
 
@jorid.koalitic
 
 
Zach’s Links
 
Websites
zacharyjamesphotography.net
 
IG
@zarcharyjames_photos
 
 
Waking Up From Work Podcast Links
 
Website
www.wakingupfromwork.com
 
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Email
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For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
www.crawlspaceaudio.com
 
Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing
www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com
 

E67: Creative Melting Pot & Navigating The Events Industry Through COVID & On
 
I would say most of us believe creatives create more together. Today we speak to owner and founder Tim Messina of live event production company Events United and creative shared space Studio Lab both based out of the granite state.
 
We talk about the mojo that comes from many different creative coming together in one space or for one purpose and the meaning and start to his businesses. Briefly touch in on finance and starting lean, navigating the COVID crises in the events industry, and the future of the industry and innovation. Lot’s to chew on here in business and creative.
 

In This Episode We Cover
The first investment to start
Choosing a business name
Working as a melting pot
Passions that are slightly different
How we use our time
Working with what you have
Adapt or die
Event Industry through COVID
Pushing virtual production boundaries
 
Quotes
 
“ If we don’t have the money then we aren’t in a place to own it.” - Guest Tim Messina
 
“ If we break our lives into thirds, we have a third of our life where we are basically sleeping, a third of our life we are at home doing errands and things, and the last third we are working. One is sleeping thats fine but I want to make sure the other two we really love both.” - Guest Tim Messina
 

“ The creatives are here, they live in different pockets and spots they just need more places to meet and create at, they are here.” - Host Dave Swillum 
 
Tim’s Recommended Resources
 
How I Built This Podcast
https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510313/how-i-built-this
 
Tim’s Links
 
Websites
 
Studio Lab
https://www.studiolab.community/
 
Events United
https://www.eventsunited.us/
 
 
IG
@eventsunited.us
@studio_lab_
 
Dropkick Murphy Live Stream 2020 at Studio Lab by Events United
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j06g0TE_Ao
 
 
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Website
www.wakingupfromwork.com
 
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Email
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For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
www.crawlspaceaudio.com
 
Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing
www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com
 

E66: What’s Your American Dream? Alternative Living Starter Home W/ Dave Swillum
What is your American Dream? For many it feels like your first home but for even more it is the way they want to live their life in every aspect. In today’s time it isn’t that it is less enjoyable to own a home, it’s just that it can be challenging to own a traditional first home and NOT go down the path of working a 9 - 5 to keep up with the overhead. Many bail from their dream because their overhead keeps an uphill battle going forward and doesn’t provide the cover fire to get started.
I want to talk about what your true goal is, if it is to buy a single family home and you like your job then that’s great! Super obtainable. But if your goal is more than that in this episode I talk on ways to live alternatively or change the perception of what your “starter” home looks like to come up with ways to minimize overhead, invest in assets that generate income or give yourself the cover fire to open a business or focus on creative. This is from hearing conversations of friends buying after wanting to talk to myself 6 years ago about something no one told me. What is your dream and what are you doing about it? Do they align with getting it done or is it a short term win that could look like something else to become a catalyst toward your goal?
 
In This Episode We Cover
What is your American Dream?
What is the goal and what’s the actual goal?
Buying your first home
Killing your overhead
Alternative living and housing
What are you trying to do?
What does that look like every day?
Reverse engineer
Don’t build a mountain to climb
Quotes
“ My priority for me is my way of life and how long do I get to have it?”  - Host Dave Swillum
 
“ Don’t get distracted because it feels like the goal and it feels good for the mean time for jeopardizing something that could be a long term goal for you.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
“ The businesses that have the most leverage and the least overhead that they have to battle are the most likely to succeed for the longest, because you have time to react appropriately and not act through fear.” - Host Dave Swillum
 
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Website
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For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave
www.crawlspaceaudio.com
 
Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing
www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E65:


 


Every creative has technology waves that go through it at different speeds. We have seen AI and Machine Learning creeping into all the things we do but now it’s here in audio in a real way. In this episode we speak to Jay Maas engineer at Jay Maas recordings behind bands like Defeater, Bane, Transit, Title Fight, State Champs, Foreign Tongues, and on and on. Jay is also co-founder of Maastr an online AI based mastering software.


 


For those that don’t do music that tune in, no doubt we speak music here but there’s something in this for everyone here. We talk about what it’s like to scale from a one:one business i.e. doing work for output to creating a software or other means that changes how you work through your day and how much impact you can have on others. Thanks for joining us!
 


In This Episode We Cover


Being controversial


Eat your own lunch


Removing pain


AI in every industry


Limiting friction to create


Tools for artists


Blurred lines


Accessibility of technology


Reverse engineering your actions


Human emotion


Efficiencies


Client, the art, the product, and the relationship


Quotes


 


“ People rode horses for a really long time and there’s still a lot of money in riding horses. Anytime you try to get someone to ride a model T they say what do you mean I want to ride my horse.” - Jay Maas


 


“ It never has a bad day, it’s never tired, it’s like taking the summation of all my best ideas and moments and making them into a concrete platform that you can utilize way, way faster than I could ever master personally and you can do it infinitely.” - Jay Maas


 


“No one wants anymore barriers between where they’re at and where they want to be, I try to find the most direct path there.” - Jay Maas
 


 


Jay’s Links:


 


Master Your Stuff W/ Jay’s AI! Maastr


www.maastr.io


 


Jay’s Studio Site


www.jaymaas.com


 


Jay’s Recommended Resources


Jay’s View On Life (mind blown!)


Optimistic Nihilism


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14


 


 


Waking Up From Work Podcast Links


 


Website


www.wakingupfromwork.com


 


Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)


https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork


 


Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok


@davewakeup


 


Facebook Community to connect to creatives


https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/


 


Email


wakeupfromworkpodcast@gmail.com


 


Youtube Channel


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber


 
For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave


www.crawlspaceaudio.com


 


Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing


www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com