We Shouldn't Be Friends

Hannah Anderson and Nick Carroll
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Tales from a world where everyone surfs. Nick’s a bald headed Boomer in recovery from surf rage. Hannah’s a blonde Millennial with a surfboard addiction. It’s like we’re from different planets! We really should not be friends. But this is 2026, and anything is possible, in and out of the surf. Here’s our playful, quizzical and highly informed look at modern surf culture in all its watery magnificence, and how it reflects all the social change we see in the world today. Oh, and watch out for epic guests.

  1. FEB 6

    RAGLAN SURF REPORT: THE FUNNIEST MAN IN THE GAME

    It’s not secret to anyone who’s tried it: comedy is HARD. And given the number of people who’ve tried it and failed, comedy based on surfing is even harder. It’s weird, because we all know a heap of funny shit happens in the water all the time, but how do you dig it out and show it to the world? Enter Luke Cederman, the dryly witty NZ goofyfoot responsible for the Raglan Surf Report. Luke’s skits lampoon pretty much every social pretension in the culture, and he rarely spares himself a bit of mockery in the process. Nick and Hannah have been waiting for a chance to drag Luke into the studio, and now his home town is suddenly a WSL mega CT venue! So let’s f*****g go!

    1 hr

  2. JAN 30

    THE BRAND MACHINE: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURF INDUSTRY?

    The gossip mills began churning about a year ago. Liberty Brands, the retail curator arm of US private equity play Authentic Brands — which owns most of the surf industry’s most familiar brand names — fell over, taking well over 100 “surf” shops with it. This seemed the final straw for an industry that had done its best to define surf culture for 60 years. But… was it? Or was it part of a much needed clean out of the old to make way for the new-ish? Culture vultures Nick and Hannah, with the help of special guests Ryan Scanlon from needessentials and the inimitable Josh Kerr, try to figure out just what happened here, and if this is a question of scorched earth or surprisingly green shoots.

    1h 15m

  3. JAN 21

    THE BULL SHARKS OF JANUARY: WHAT JUST HAPPENED, AND WHY?

    Four attacks. Numerous in-water sightings. A whole coastline of surfers wondering — who’s next? It’s safe to say this has not been the January anyone in NSW was expecting. But what’s behind the past few days of mayhem, and the strange stillness that’s followed as surfers stayed out of the water despite very solid, very non-January surf? Turns out the animal involved has changed its behaviour for a very simple and predictable reason. Nick and Hannah dig into that reason and the wild circumstances it’s triggered. See below for links to some info we used to present this episode — they might just help. https://www.sharksmart.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/1447730/Bull-Shark-fact-sheet.pdf https://www.jcu.edu.au/news/releases/2025/july/climate-shifts-extending-sydneys-bull-shark-season https://fish.gov.au/docs/SharkReport/2023_FRDC_Carcharhinus_leucas_Final.pdf

    35 min

  4. JAN 14

    CHRISTMAS EVERY DAY, WITH BOB McTAVISH

    “Longevity.” It’s a word more and more surfers are throwing around as an aspiration. Well how about eternal youth? At 82, Bonza Bob McTavish has a deeper well of surfing memory than maybe any other surfer in the world, yet he still exudes the stoke and buzz of someone who lives right here with us, in the moment. Truly, he is our very own Santa Claus, yet the gift he gives us is his very own self. Nick and Hannah spent a fabulous afternoon in Bob’s shaping bay tucked away in Byron’s industrial estate, where McTavish and his son Ben have assembled the most highly talented pack of Millennial/Gen Z surfboard workers we’ve ever seen, and listened to Uncle Bob tell us how he got here.

    1h 13m

  5. 12/10/2025

    “BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT”: MARK HEALEY AND THE MYSTERY OF OAHU’S NORTH SHORE

    When winter comes to the north shore of Oahu, every swell is shrouded in myth. The Pipeline! Sunset! Waimea Bay! The outer reef spots that nobody ever actually names. But these swells and spots are just like anywhere else. They’re ridden and held down by human beings, just like you and us, and the experience is more down to earth than most of us might imagine. Mark Healey is as down to earth a human as you’d ever want to meet, yet he also hunts barrels at Waimea lefts, surfs the Pipeline with 25 years of knowledge behind him, and is a generational surfing talent in this hallowed surf zone. Nick and Hannah got hold of him after he’d spent a bit of pre winter time in NZ with his mates shooting red deer, and talked with him about Valhalla.

    1h 13m

  6. 11/24/2025

    THE ACTUAL WORLD CHAMPION: YAGO DORA’S VERY GRACEFUL LIFE

    Recently the World Surf League has been dropping world champ comebacks like they’re on sale. Carissa, Stephanie, John, Gabriel! That’s 19 world titles rolling up almost out of the blue for the 2026 tour. They’ll change the game for sure. But in the meantime, what about the current men’s champ? Universally hailed as a great winner at Cloudbreak back in September, the magnificently chill Yago Dora has nevertheless not featured in any Western surf media since that win. Nick and Hannah thought this was very weird, so we asked Yago if he’d mind joining us to explore his life as a super-kid in Florianopolis, Brazil, how he made the transition from free-surf star to elite competitor, stepping out on his own at title level, and how he produced that searingly confident Finals performance.

    1h 10m

  7. 11/14/2025

    THE EVOLVING GOAT: KELLY SLATER ON LIFE BEYOND TITLES

    It’s a sporting truism: once you’re a world champ, you’re forever a world champ. But that’s not all you are, and in this classic extended-play run-on from our chat with him during the WSL Finals, Kelly lets his mind wander freely across the new landscape of his life. Hip surgery — which he put off for years while resolving his time on the CT — is on the near horizon, his businesses are sending him to actual work, the grommet is running around all over the place. It’s a long way from the retirement he once imagined, hanging out in Cocoa Beach going fishing — or is it? Here’s an unusually relaxed and revealing yap with a surfer we’ve all known forever.

    1 hr

  8. 11/05/2025

    ONE OF A KIND: KEALA KENNELLY’S LIFE AHEAD OF THE CURVE

    She challenged every surfing stereotype. Beat Andy and Bruce in their local Kauai juniors, charged Pipeline before it was for the fucken girls, towed Teahupo’o on Code Red day. Went on tour, made the top five while hiding her sexuality, then wore it on her sleeve. Built a big wave free-surfing career on the back of credit card debt and mad instinct, then re-built her life around a far more lucrative career as a DJ. To their great delight, with the North Shore surf season preparing itself, Nick and Hannah drag the amazing KK in front of a mic and find this fabulous human being as sardonic and brilliant as ever … while also seeming surprisingly content.

    1h 3m
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Tales from a world where everyone surfs. Nick’s a bald headed Boomer in recovery from surf rage. Hannah’s a blonde Millennial with a surfboard addiction. It’s like we’re from different planets! We really should not be friends. But this is 2026, and anything is possible, in and out of the surf. Here’s our playful, quizzical and highly informed look at modern surf culture in all its watery magnificence, and how it reflects all the social change we see in the world today. Oh, and watch out for epic guests.

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  • Creator
    Hannah Anderson and Nick Carroll
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    31
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Hannah Anderson and Nick Carroll
  • Show Website
    We Shouldn't Be Friends

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