123 episodes

A weekly true crime & dark history comedy podcast hosted by Holly & Leslie. We dive deep into the research so you don‘t have to... unless you still want to, which is great! You do you... Though we mostly share true crime case, we also tell stories of hauntings, aliens, folklore, and more. Start listening now!

We Would Be Dead We Would Be Dead

    • True Crime
    • 4.8 • 157 Ratings

A weekly true crime & dark history comedy podcast hosted by Holly & Leslie. We dive deep into the research so you don‘t have to... unless you still want to, which is great! You do you... Though we mostly share true crime case, we also tell stories of hauntings, aliens, folklore, and more. Start listening now!

    Blaze of Glory (The Murder of Blaze Bernstein)

    Blaze of Glory (The Murder of Blaze Bernstein)

    Blaze Bernstein was good. He was a good kid who grew into a good teen and was making a pretty smooth transformation into a good adult. Blaze was kind and talented. Blaze was adventurous and intelligent. Blaze was gay and Jewish. 

    Sam Woodward was angry. Sam was an angry kid who grew into an angry teen and transformed into an angry adult. Sam was aggressive and isolated. Sam was confused and hungry for attention. Sam was a homophobic white supremacist.

    This is the story of 2 boys who grew up just an hour away from one another. Both boys were raised in affluent families, both attended the same prestigious art school, and had many advantages in life.  So how did one end up violently stabbing the other to death in an empty park in the middle of the night? Well, it seems that one can take two very different paths and still end up at the same destination. One chose hope, and the other chose hate.

     








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    • 1 hr 57 min
    Missing Pieces (The Murder of Kitty Genovese)

    Missing Pieces (The Murder of Kitty Genovese)

    On March 27th 1964, the headline: "37 Who Saw Murder Didn't Call the Police; Apathy at Stabbing of Queens Woman Shocks Inspector" was splashed across the cover of the New York times. The story behind it was the horrific rape and murder of a young woman named Kitty Genovese. But the story doesn't focus on Kitty, or even her murderer, it focuses on her neighbors, who allegedly saw the murder in real time and did nothing. This story stirred an enormous reaction to a phenomenon that was dubbed Urban Apathy. This case also inspired all the research that lead to a psychosocial theory called "the Bystander Effect". There's just one problem, the New York Times lied. 

    Most of you will know this case, but there is so much about it that has been hidden from the public for so long that we felt it deserves re-examining. Kitty, her devoted family and long time girlfriend Mary Ann lived their lives for a great many years believing that Kitty was the girl no one cared about, but she wasn't. She isn't. We decided to take a fresh look at this classic morality tale and find the truth behind the lessons.  








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    • 1 hr 50 min
    The Worst Love Story (The Richardson Family Murders)

    The Worst Love Story (The Richardson Family Murders)

    At 1:00 p.m. on April 23, 2006, 6 year old Garret ran over his neighbors house anticipating an afternoon of playing Star Wars. After knocking on the door several times Garret decided to peek into the window to see where his friend might be, but what he saw sent him running back home as fast as his little legs would carry him. 

    Police were summoned and discovered the bodies of the houses occupants, with the exception of their 12 year old daughter Jasmine. Authorities were terrified that Jasmine may have also been a victim but in time they discovered something far worse.








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    JUSTICE STORY: The sick, sordid tale of Souleater and the Runaway Devil

    *Runaway Devil: How Forbidden Love Drove a 12-Year-Old to Murder Her Family

    A Rare Report of Clinical Lycanthropy in Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders

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    • 2 hr 7 min
    Beautiful Cigar Girl (Mary Rogers)

    Beautiful Cigar Girl (Mary Rogers)

    The death of Mary Rogers is known to many as America's first murder mystery. Published by Edgar Allen Poe as "The Mystery of Marie Rogêt in 1842, Mary's story became America's introduction to true crime, but for all it's retelling, and the country's brief and feverish fascination with the "beautiful cigar girl" Mary's case still remains technically unsolved. 
     
    Mary, known as a legendary beauty, unknowingly set a standard the the rest of the country would run with for centuries to come, but her untimely, brutal death, which should have served as a warning, seems to have fallen on deaf ears. No amount of adoration kept her from turning up in the Hudson River, dead. 






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    • 1 hr 10 min
    Nightmare Fuel 2.0 (Cursed Objects Part 2)

    Nightmare Fuel 2.0 (Cursed Objects Part 2)

    Our second round of Cursed Objects is international! This time Holly and Leslie both head over the pond to take a look at two objects so spooky, we guarantee you'll be repeating their stories around your next campfire. First Leslie tells us about Old Nick, The Swansea devil.... you're going to want to check out our Instagram for the photos of this one. Holly follows up with the tale of the Thomas Busby Stoop Chair, a chair so cursed with violence that it is currently displayed high on a wall, so that no one can sit in it. Make a blanket fort and get out your flashlights because this one is SPOOKY!






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    • 1 hr 20 min
    New moon, Who Dis? (30 Minute Twilight: New Moon)

    New moon, Who Dis? (30 Minute Twilight: New Moon)

    Ok fiends, so many of you enjoyed the first "thirty minute movie" installment of Twilight that we decided to share the next film in the saga with the whole class. 

    In this wild (normally patrons only) series Holly and Leslie summarize a movie in thirty minutes in a frenzied game of hot potato. Here's how it works: the girls set the timer for five minutes and trade back and forth telling the story until 30 minutes has elapsed and hopefully the whole story has been told. During the narration you'll also get their thought, weird observations and frequent frustrations. It's a good time. If you like this episode, join our Patreon to get access to a whole catalogue of 30 minute horror movies! 

    Things have been so heavy and scary the past few weeks we decided to have a little laugh. Enjoy!

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    • 48 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
157 Ratings

157 Ratings

mcfab08 ,

Could this be my new favorite?!? 🤩

Love the format, depth of cases, banter, and the overall delivery. I have been searching for a new pod to binge for months, with nothing but disappointment. Then, I found these amazing gals! Thanks for keeping me sane in this crazy world and please keep creating💖

CaleighV ,

LOVE this podcast

I’m a true crime lover and am critical of who I listen to. A friend of mine recommended them to me once he found out he and I had an interest in serial killers in common. I was skeptical at first, but I love this podcast. Holly and Leslie do very thorough research and are super entertaining. Leslie teaches me something new each episode and Holly makes me laugh out loud. They do an amazing job of paying tribute to the victims and their loved ones. This podcast made my drive from New Jersey to Florida and back way more tolerable. Highly recommend.

Pinner8382 ,

Love WWBD

Holly and Leslie are amazing! They do their research, honor the victims and speak their minds. They interject humor on the way and really entertain me! Big shout out to their 2 part series on Kurt Cobain.

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