west & ease

Leslie Luo

Conversations with creatives. Growing together through design and community. west & ease is part of & luo studio — designing for connection at andluo.studio. www.westandease.com

Episodes

  1. Apr 21

    Eric Li on building Scratch with AI and the case for thoughtfully crafted software

    Interviewed in April 2026. This conversation has been edited for clarity and brevity.  west & ease is a space for conversations with creatives, insights on design, and the moments that bring community to life. I’m Leslie Luo, and I’ve always been fascinated by how we interpret the world. And west & ease is where I explore that through conversations, design, and community. Today I’m talking with Eric Li, a self-taught designer, developer, and co-founder of Versive, a YC-backed AI user research platform. Eric started his career in investment banking, then made a deliberate pivot into product, designing at Bread as their first designer, at Uber Eats, and leading product and design at Vareto before starting his own company, Versive. Recently, he built Scratch, a free open-source markdown notes app, all in a weekend using AI coding agents and watched it blow up on GitHub, LinkedIn, and Twitter. We get into his actual workflow with Claude Code. Why design taste is still the hard part, even when AI can ship working software in minutes, and what building in public looks like when you’re already running a company. To learn more about Eric and his work, visit www.ericli.io or follow him on Linkedin and Twitter. You can also read our first conversation, where Eric shares more about his creative journey. west & ease is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. west & ease is part of & luo studio, where I do fractional design consulting, design coaching, and host creative community events. If you’re a brand, team, or creative partner interested in collaborating, I’d love to connect. You can learn more and reach out at www.andluo.studio. Credits Music by lsaudio from Pixabay This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.westandease.com/subscribe

    27 min
  2. 12/23/2025

    Sam Ray Lee on Umami House's Jam Battle and building space for musical conversation

    Interviewed in May 2025. This conversation has been edited for clarity and brevity. west & ease is a space for conversations with creatives, insights on design, and the moments that bring community to life. I’m Leslie Luo and in this conversation, I’m catching up with Sam Ray Lee—a creative and part of the Brooklyn-based music collective Umami House. We first spoke in 2023. Since then, a lot has happened. In this recent conversation, Sam reflects on what he’s been building over the past year and a half — from learning how to create the right atmosphere for live music, to finding that sweet spot where energy, space, and sound all come together. But it wasn’t until he came up with the idea for Jam Battle, a one-v-one musical improv showdown featuring talented artists, that he saw the full potential of what this could become. Also heads up, there’s some explicit language in this conversation. To learn more about Sam and his work, you can follow him on Instagram @raytheidea, @umamihousemusic, and @jambattleofficial. You can also read our first conversation where Sam shares more about his creative journey in 2023. west & ease is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. west & ease is part of & luo studio, where I do fractional design consulting, design coaching, and host creative community events. If you’re a brand, team, or creative partner interested in collaborating, I’d love to connect. You can learn more and reach out at andluo.studio. Credits Intro and outro song: Friends by Umami House Umami House’s first song, Move Along Audio from the first Umami House Experience recap Audio from the second Umami House Experience recap Audio from Umami House x 12 Pell collaboration Audio from Umami House Presents Jam Battle 1 recap This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.westandease.com/subscribe

    34 min
  3. 01/08/2024

    Kevin Twohy on how he designed Hellosaurus from start to launch

    This was originally a Patreon-exclusive audio recording for patrons. While we’re no longer on Patreon, we’re bringing back all exclusive content for paid subscribers. So you might hear some mentions of Patreon, but switch that out with “Subscribe on Substack” and you’ll get the idea. west & ease is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Interviewed in 2020. This conversation has been edited for clarity and brevity. Welcome to a west & ease subscriber exclusive. west & ease is a collection of stories, sounds, knowledge, visuals, and "creative" work. Specifically, you're listening to an exclusive clip from a recent Conversation with Kevin Twohy. You can find our original conversation here. Meet Kevin Twohy, an independent product designer helping early-stage startups go from zero to one. He shares with us how he got started in his career, how he's steered himself into the creative, independent world, and gives us insight on how to approach it ourselves. For this exclusive, we'll hear directly from Kevin about a recent project he did with Hellosaurus. Hellosaurus is a new interactive video platform for kids to watch and play along with their favorite shows, truly reimagining screen time for a touch screen generation. Kevin shares with us how the idea came to fruition and walks us through the process from start to launch. Bonus links: Kevin shared with us a few links during the chat, including: * Kevin's tweet thread about Hellosaurus with visuals * Nielsen Norman Group research on how to design for kids * A book on how to Design for Kids To learn more about Kevin and his work, check out his website at kevintwohy.com and follow him on Twitter @kevintwohy. Music by mariokhol from Pixabay This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.westandease.com/subscribe

    17 min
  4. 12/27/2023

    Designing for trust and safety with Jay Demetillo

    Interviewed in May 2023 | This conversation has been edited for clarity and brevity. Welcome to a west & ease subscriber exclusive. west & ease is a collection of stories, sounds, knowledge, visuals, and "creative" work. Specifically, you're listening to an exclusive clip from a recent Conversation with Jay Demetillo. You can find our original conversation here. Meet Jay Demetillo, a Filipino-American designer whose career and life spans worldwide. He grew up in New York, making his first cross-country move to design in the early days of Silicon Valley. He eventually made cross-world moves to further experience and embrace living an international life while navigating his design career. Over time, his experience helped him expand his worldview while actively contributing to East and Southeast Asian communities. For this exclusive, we'll hear directly from Jay about his recent projects with Grab, a Singaporean-based tech company providing ride-hailing, deliveries, and financial services in Southeast Asia. Jay shares insights on how privacy and safety are crucial to ride-hailing services like Grab and themes and learnings from two projects: Audio Protect, which introduced audio recordings during rides, and Telematics, which focused on enabling and encouraging safe driving habits. Bonus links: Jay shared with us a few links during the chat, including: * Grab Audio Protect: https://soyacincau.com/2023/03/09/grab-rolls-out-audio-protect-to-help-solve-safety-related-ehailing-disputes/  * Grab Telematics: https://engineering.grab.com/telematics-at-grab  You can learn more about Jay at: * Embracing an international perspective through design with Jay Demetillo: https://www.westandease.com/p/conversations-with-jay-demetillo * Learn more about Jay on Linkedin and Instagram @asianxjay. Loved this exclusive? Share it with your friends by giving them a gift subscription today. Music by ComaStudio from Pixabay This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.westandease.com/subscribe

    21 min

About

Conversations with creatives. Growing together through design and community. west & ease is part of & luo studio — designing for connection at andluo.studio. www.westandease.com