In this moving episode of What Do You Say, Frank sits down with Rob and Jeremy Wiley to talk about addiction, redemption, and the incredible power of second chances. Jeremy opens up about his journey from early exposure to drugs and meth addiction to rebuilding his life through Oxford House — a community that helps recovering addicts reintegrate and evolve. Rob, founder of GRACE (Giving Recovering Addicts a Chance at Evolving), shares how his personal loss inspired a mission to save lives. Together, they discuss forgiveness, faith, and the importance of community in breaking free from addiction. -- 00:00 - Show opening, guests, and Grace/Oxford partnership 01:07 - Host's personal loss and upcoming fundraiser 02:14 - Event details and Jeremy introduced; Oxford House outcomes 03:21 - Request for Jeremy's story and his early family life 07:09 - Teen experimentation and first meth experience 08:47 - Immediate love of meth, varied reactions, and biological differences 11:02 - Habit vs. addiction, missing structure, and self-loathing 14:56 - Escalation to daily meth use, arrests, and court-ordered treatment 19:30 - Salvation Army recovery, building a foundation, and treatment length 21:55 - Therapy stigma, confronting the past, and Oxford House introduction 27:01 - Oxford House transformation and early leadership role 31:52 - Forgiveness, therapy, and men seeking help 38:02 - Gratitude, time as a gift, and self-care 43:47 - Returning to Oxford House, alumni work, and moving beyond it 48:23 - Work, family, and rebuilding relationships with his daughter 51:42 - Genetic risk, openness with his daughter, years clean, and recovery credit 55:21 - Community vs isolation, fundraising, stigma, and parental pain --