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Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 26-year Sacramento County Sheriff's veteran with diverse roles: jail deputy, patrol, fusion centers, critical infrastructure intel, and terrorism threat analysis. 04:52 The speaker enjoyed negotiation work and saved lives through it, making the experience fulfilling and impactful. 06:53 Team mentors, including Sergeants Bob Curry and Bob Lizzito, shaped effective communication and broader considerations, emphasizing professionalism, legal awareness, and representation in high-stakes situations. 13:07 Early role: setup equipment and intelligence; later: first negotiation with a distraught man threatening self-harm. 15:12 Verbal mistakes are easier to overcome than tactical ones; rebuild rapport to recover trust in negotiations. 17:17 Early in their career, a negotiator used intelligence about a barricaded gang member's Raiders fandom during an armed standoff in an evacuated apartment complex. 21:24 Negotiators are a small, specialized community within law enforcement. 24:25 A man aiming for suicide by cop held hostages, called the police, and the team leader was dispatched to handle the situation. 31:05 Law enforcement often prioritizes negotiation over deadly force, saving lives despite situations where shooting would be legally justified. 36:32 An apartment complex was evacuated for 36 hours as police searched for JD Souza, wanted for shooting at officers; intelligence suggested he might visit his ex-girlfriend's home in Sacramento. 37:47 Man quickly checks a room, instinctively avoids entering, and spots JD Souza aiming an SKS rifle. 48:03 Seek help from a counselor for fresh solutions; it's worth exploring options. 51:28 Brian Banning reflects on his legacy, valuing lasting teaching tips, especially the idea that negotiation prevents unnecessary violence, ensuring safety for all. 55:18 Understand your audience, infrastructure risks, and priorities; manage relationships effectively; prepare for crises and support your team. 56:52 Prioritize safety, educate teams, foster wellness, and support each other. 59:57 Brian thanked for sharing his story on Crisis Cop Podcast; encouraged to seek knowledge. Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: How did Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator's early experiences in the jail system influence his approach to crisis and hostage negotiation later in his career? Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator mentions the Good Guys hostage rescue as a pivotal event for his department. How do major incidents like this shape departmental policies and team composition? What role do personal connections and shared experiences (e.g., knowing the same people, similar backgrounds) play in building rapport during a negotiation, based on Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator's stories? Discuss the importance of "face-saving" strategies for subjects during negotiations. In what ways did Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator use these techniques successfully? How does misinformation or withheld intelligence (such as the Idaho case) impact the outcome of crisis negotiations? Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator talks about the importance of mentorship and ongoing skill development. What systems or structures can law enforcement agencies put in place to encourage this kind of growth? Reflect on the “force multiplier” effect of training others that Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator describes. Why is this especially significant in the negotiation field? Negotiators are often required to think in "multi-dimensional" ways during incidents. How did Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator explain this skill and why is it crucial for successful outcomes? The episode discusses the value of team support and wellness post-incident. In what ways should agencies ensure negotiators and tactical officers are supported after high-stress events? What advice does Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator give to aspiring crisis negotiators about legacy and the emotional weight of the profession, and how can new negotiators apply this perspective to their own careers? Links from this Episode: -- Get All of Pat's Books via Amazon Now! - Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America - Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation - Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Link to the Network's homepage to provide listeners with more background. 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Key Resources & References From This Episode California Association of Hostage Negotiators (CAHN) Networking, education, and resources for crisis negotiators: http://www.cahn.us/ The Good Guys Hostage Standoff (Referenced Major Case) Documentary & Case Overview:Wikipedia: Good Guys Hostage Crisis Documentary (subject to availability):"True Crime": Good Guys Hostage Standoff on YouTube Recommended Reading "Calming the Chaos" by Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com (featured in the episode) "Stalling for Time" by Gary Noesner (Referenced expert) Books by Jack Cambria Training & Professional Development Voice Farmers Voiceover Academy Voice training for public safety and beyond: https://voicefarmers.com/ BlueBaggerz Project Volunteer voice role-play opportunities for negotiator training: https://bluebaggerzproject.com/ National Tactical Officers Association (NTOA) Training, conferences, and professional development: https://www.ntoa.org/ Crisis Negotiator Conferences & Events Kansas Negotiators Conference Oklahoma Negotiators Association Be sure to Like, Subscribe & Share Everywhere! ==== Connect with Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop Today! — Pat Doering on Facebook — Pat Doering on LinkedIn — Pat Doering on Instagram — Crisis Cop on the Web -- Crisis Cop on YouTube ==== Help Us Tell People About 10+ Years of WhatCopsWatch.Com: On the Web: https://whatcopswatch.com/ At Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast.... 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