Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes
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On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

  1. 4D AGO

    Episode 99: Pain Magazine

    Pain Magazine brings together the two musical worlds of industrial-techno duo Maelstrom & Louisahhh and post-hardcore three-piece Birds In Row. Violent God (out on the 3rd of October on Humus Records) is the musical child birthed of this dark union. As lyrically violent and menacing as the music is, Violent God has its moments of not exactly light, but a certain sonic respite that glimmers as shards amongst malevolent, industrial beats, jagged, icy guitars and electronic textures that by turns envelope the listener or sound the alarm. But for all the sonic intensity of the music, Louisa Pillot and Bart Balboa (two fifths of Pain Magazine) make for charming and eloquent guests, as we delve into the creation of Violent God, as well as dissecting the violence of capitalism and the struggles of independent artists navigating their way between the jaws of the machine. Cover photo: Mae Ferron Photo 2: Jodie Roszak Check out ⁠Violent God on bandcamp⁠ ⁠Pain Magazine on Humus Records⁠ ⁠Pain Magazine on Instagram⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder ⁠ ⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    57 min

  2. SEP 16

    Episode 98: Chris Grigg (Ampwall, Woe, Glorious Depravity)

    Multi-instrumentalist Chris Grigg has been involved in numerous musical projects over the past 20 years. Back in 2007 Chris started black-metal project Woe—first solo, before expanding to a full band. With Woe most recently releasing their fifth full-length, Legacies of Frailty, in 2023, Chris has also found time to feature as the drummer for death-metal group Glorious Depravity (the band soon to be releasing their second album, Death Never Sleeps, on Transcending Obscurity Records.) And if that's not enough, in recent times Chris applied his skills from his day job as a programmer to create the independent music platform Ampwall. Chris joins me to discuss some of the history of Woe, from its inception, through his experiences working with Candlelight and the long process of getting the rights back to his music. We also discuss the (double) sale of bandcamp and Chris' determination to create a truly independent alternative in Ampwall. Check out⁠ Woe on Ampwall⁠ Check out ⁠Glorious Depravity and their forthcoming album⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠ ⁠⁠Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1h 16m

  3. SEP 12

    Episode 97: Caroline Harrison

    New York based artist and illustrator Caroline Harrison's work with underground and extreme bands and musicians goes back almost 15 years designing the logo and and various cover art for death metal group Pyrrhon, but her journey as a visual artist goes back much further than that. More recently (and including a decade working at the sadly now closed Saint Vitus Bar in Brooklyn) Caroline has created artwork for bands like Pig Destroyer, KEN mode and Chat Pile, applying her particular style blending together beauty and ugliness. We discuss Caroline's early artistic and musical inspirations, years of balancing other jobs with artistic creation, the pros and cons of social media, the Ampwall platform and how it provides visual artists like Caroline (as well as musicians) with an alternative to bandcamp... and we talk about artist and Lovely Little Girls singer Gregory Jacobsen (who first suggested this interview—thanks Gregory!) ⁠Photo by Ebru Yildiz See Caroline's work (with links to Ampwall and social media pages)⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠ Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1h 3m

  4. SEP 9

    Episode 96: Blake Fleming (Dazzling Killmen)

    In a musical career that's spanned decades, many projects, several solo releases and becoming a published author Blake Fleming first made a name for himself in the 90s as the teenage drummer for post-hardcore group Dazzling Killmen. Having built an enduring relationship with SKiN GRAFT Records, the band split in 1995. Now 30 years later, as a new iteration of Dazzling Killmen gets back together (original members Blake, Nick Sakes and new recruits Ben Greenberg and Evan Jagles), SKiN GRAFT Records is set to release the long-out-of-print Dazzling Killmen debut Dig Out The Switch (originally recorded by Steve Albini and remastered by Andris Balins and Blake Fleming). Blake joins me to discuss his musical origins, the early days of Dazzling Killmen, working with Steve Albini and Jeff Tweedy on Dig Out The Switch, his solo career, writing The Book of Rhythm and some of his other ongoing projects. Closing track: Serpentarium Thanks to Mark at SKiN GRAFT Records ⁠ Visit Blake's website⁠ ⁠ Order Dig Out The Switch⁠ Check out Dazzling Killmen's upcoming tour dates on ⁠Instagram⁠ or ⁠facebook⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠ Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1h 7m

  5. SEP 2

    Episode 95: The Silver Snails

    Speed of Light (released this coming Friday) is the second album by psychedelic-pop-rock project The Silver Snails and a record a decade in the making. Recorded between Italy and Portland, Oregon, the record (like The Silver Snails itself) is tied to no one specific place—with the project's architect Lucas Ward having lived and drawn influences from all over the world. Lucas joins me to discuss the record, the involvement of his wife (and occasionally also their children) in The Silver Snails, their music videos, his history with Portland and Elliott Smith, various insights into the costs of making music, and Lucas' goal to open hearts through music. Closing track: U Say U Know Thanks to Howard at Howlin' Wuelf Media For all things The Silver Snails ⁠visit their website⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠ Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1 hr

  6. AUG 26

    Episode 94: GUCK

    Gucked Up (out this Friday on Three One G) is the debut album by LA noise-punk five-piece GUCK and fits right into the delightfully cacophonous musical world the label has curated, with bands like Deaf Club, F**k Money and Stress Positions. Vocalist April Gerloff and guitarist Chappy Hull join me to discuss the record, their musical backgrounds, April's history with Three One G founder Justin Pearson and their insights on booking shows and building a musical community. And on the topic of shows, GUCK will be playing a number of shows in September starting in San Diego, CA on the 18th of September at the Soda Bar. Go check them out. Closing track: GUBAR Thanks to Justin at ⁠⁠The Chain⁠⁠ / Three One G ⁠Follow ⁠GUCK on Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Pre-order Gucked Up from Three One G⁠ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠ Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1h 2m

  7. AUG 20

    Episode 93: Jon Fine (We Contain Multitudes)

    Guitarist, editor and writer Jon Fine came up in the US indie-rock movement of the 1980s, most notably with rock trio B***h Magnet. In his engrossing memoir of a decade ago Your Band Sucks, Jon gives an entertaining and insightful look at how the indie-rock landscape evolved over those years and his part in it. Having at times extracted himself from an underground, DIY music world that doesn't always give back what is put into it, Fine is back and as energised as ever with his current instrumental-rock three-piece We Contain Multitudes (including former B***h Magnet drummer Orestes Morfin, as well as bassist Simon Kobayashi). Back in June the band released their great, weaving, winding (and rocking) debut Minako, and ⁠I interviewed Jon for New Noise Magazine⁠ Now Jon graciously sits down to talk with me again as we dive into the world of DIY music in more depth. Last month I bit the bullet and said, "ok, I'm really working on this book about underground, DIY music" and this episode is probably the most in depth discussion I've had about the realities of DIY music making. Of course we also talk We Contain Multitudes, Minako and what the band has planned for the future. Listen to or purchase ⁠Minako from Expert Work Records⁠ Follow ⁠We Contain Multitudes on Instagram⁠ Thanks to Dan at Discipline PR for setting up the original interview Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1h 25m

  8. AUG 12

    Episode 92: King Yosef

    Industrial-hardcore music-maker and producer King Yosef releases his great, second full-length record Spire of Fear this Friday and on the eve of the record's release returns to the podcast for a second visit. We discuss the making of the latest record, the pros and cons of working alone, how to book tours, Portland, forthcoming shows (including the second Bleakfest next month) and underground music scenes today. For all things ⁠King Yosef (including links to pre-order Spire of Fear)⁠ Photo: Harper King Thanks to Curran at The Chain Podcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom Osman This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tomosman.substack.com

    1h 5m
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On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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  • Creator
    Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    99
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Tom Osman
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