Beneath the Surface Podcast

Christie

What if there’s more to the Bible, and the world around us, than what we’ve been taught? Beneath the Surface goes deeper into the conversations many people are curious about but rarely hear discussed. From the unseen realm, spiritual warfare and the supernatural to powerful testimonies of people who have walked through darkness, deception, trauma, the New Age and the occult and found Jesus on the other side. We explore Scripture, ask hard questions, challenge cultural narratives and examine the things that are often dismissed, misunderstood or simply left unexplained. Some episodes will make you think. Some may challenge what you believe. And some will remind you just how powerfully Jesus is still transforming lives. We’re not here to tell you what to think. We’re here to dig deeper, bring everything back to Scripture and encourage you to seek the Truth for yourself. Unseen Battles. Real Stories. Biblical Truths. Come curious. We’re going beneath the surface.

  1. hace 5 días

    There's Beauty In The Breakdown

    When everything falls apart...Christie sits down with Joslyn Nicholson for a raw conversation about childhood loss, trauma, addiction, abuse, and the long road back to peace. Joslyn shares how Jesus met her in the middle of chaos and how healing has become both deeply spiritual and deeply embodied.This episode matters for anyone who feels stuck, spiritually exhausted, or unsure why prayer alone has not shifted their pain. Christie and Joslyn talk candidly about nervous system healing, deliverance, and what lasting freedom can actually look like. Key topicsJoslyn shares that her trauma began at age 5, when she learned her mother was dying of cancer and had to process that loss as a child.She describes how her mother’s faith shaped her early life, including nightly prayer and Bible reading, and how that spiritual foundation stayed with her even in darkness.In this episode, Joslyn explains how her mother’s death led to severe anxiety, insomnia, phobias, disordered eating, and a growing desperation to reconnect with her.She opens up about turning to witchcraft, Ouija boards, and the occult in childhood and early adolescence as a way to reach her mother.Joslyn shares how grief, dysfunction, and lack of emotional safety at home contributed to rebellion, drug use, promiscuity, and a double life as a high-performing student and athlete.She recounts a violent abusive relationship in adulthood, including stalking, manipulation, sexual degradation, and being held at gunpoint.Christie and Joslyn discuss the difference between spiritual warfare and trauma responses, and why some wounds cannot be healed by prayer alone if the root is never addressed.Joslyn explains her work in trauma-informed Christian coaching, including inner healing, somatic tools, prophetic prayer, and deliverance.She describes how she uses gentle regulation, body awareness, and Holy Spirit-led prayer to help clients move through shutdown, fear, rejection, and fragmentation.Christie and Joslyn both emphasize that healing is not just “trying harder” spiritually. It is a process of truth replacing lies, safety replacing shame, and Christ meeting people at the root.Key frameworksHealing the root, not just the symptomRegulation before revelationTrauma-informed ministry that makes room for the Holy SpiritGentle somatic work with prayer and prophetic listeningDeliverance as both spiritual warfare and inner restorationNotable quotes“Stay close to Jesus. Always stay close to Jesus.” “Healing is experiencing God where it used to feel unsafe.” “You were not made for this. You were made for more.” Action itemsIf prayer, fasting, and Bible reading have not brought lasting change, consider whether a deeper wound needs attention.Look for trauma-informed support that also makes room for faith and prayer.Stop minimizing pain just because someone else “had it worse.”Pay attention to patterns of shutdown, hypervigilance, and rumination as possible signs of unresolved trauma.Seek spaces where you can be seen, heard, and witnessed without judgment. Follow Joslyn for true trauma healing on Instagram @joslyncreates or joslyncreates.store Full Video Episodes on YouTube @Beneath-the_Surface_podcast Follow BTS on Socials: Instagram: @bneath.the.surface TikTok: @beneath.the.surface.pod X: @BeneathSurfPod Facebook: Beneath The Surface Podcast

  2. 11 ago

    Jesus Met Her In A Witchcraft Ritual

    Olivia shares her journey from witchcraft and the occult to encountering Jesus in the midst of a ritual. She describes her experiences with new age practices, demonic encounters, and the deceptive allure of the occult. Her encounter with Jesus brought peace and fulfillment, leading to a transformation in her life. She also discusses the counterfeit nature of the occult and the requirement of repentance in the kingdom of God. The conversation delves into the challenges of trusting in an unseen God, the journey to finding freedom in Christ, and the establishment of a biblical trauma-informed ministry. It also explores the importance of renewing the mind with scripture and the need for equipping churches to address trauma and abuse. The conversation delves into the importance of a supernatural worldview and a kingdom perspective, the significance of raising a generation of spiritual warriors, and the need for spiritual healing and preparation for the end times. Takeaways Encountering Jesus in the midst of darkness can bring overwhelming peace and love.The occult offers a counterfeit of the kingdom of God, lacking the requirement of repentance.Freedom in Christ comes from knowing God's character and nature, and renewing the mind with scripture is essential for experiencing this freedom.Equipping churches to address trauma and abuse in a biblical way is crucial for helping individuals who have experienced hardship. Supernatural worldview and kingdom perspective are essential for spiritual understanding.Spiritual healing and preparation for the end times are important aspects of faithHow the law of attraction, visualization, and "energy work" opened the door to deeper occult practices.Why counterfeit spiritual experiences can feel loving, safe, and even holy.How new age teachings keep people trapped on a hamster wheel of pain, trauma, and escalationThe difference between spiritual encounters without repentance and true freedom in Christ. Chapters 00:00 Encountering Jesus in the Occult05:03 The Deceptive Allure of the Occult10:06 The Counterfeit Nature of the Occult20:04 The Requirement of Repentance35:53 Trusting in an Unseen God39:02 Journey to Freedom in Christ43:13 Establishing a Biblical Trauma-Informed Ministry01:00:47 Supernatural Worldview and Kingdom Perspective01:01:14 Raising a Generation of Spiritual Warriors01:03:25 Spiritual Healing and Preparation for the End Times Melissa and Christie also unpack the role of trauma, attachment, and false religion in shaping how people see God. Olivia shares how a Christian coffee shop friend, Jerilyn, changed everything simply by loving her first, praying for her, and eventually leading her to Jesus.The conversation goes even deeper into what freedom in Christ actually feels like, why renewing your mind with Scripture is non-negotiable, and how Olivia's story led her into biblical counseling, Bible college, and ministry work through Wall of Fire. https://walloffire-ohio.org If you've ever wondered why the occult feels so alluring, why so many people are drawn to new age spirituality, or how God really rescues someone from deception, this episode will challenge you, encourage you, and point you back to the only truth that actually sets people free. Olivia Page @olive.branch.faith

  3. 26 jun

    Lilith Exposed

    Lilith Exposed | Origins, Myth & the Demonic Agenda Who is Lilith? Is she really Adam’s first wife, or is that one of the most widespread myths in modern culture? In this episode of Beneath the Surface, we separate biblical truth from centuries of folklore, mythology, and occult tradition. We trace Lilith’s origins from ancient Mesopotamian culture through Jewish tradition, examine the only place the name “Lilith” appears in the Bible, and discuss how her story has evolved into a powerful symbol within New Age spirituality, witchcraft, and popular culture. We’ll explore questions like: Is Lilith actually found in Scripture? Where did the story of Adam’s “first wife” originate? What does Isaiah 34 really say? How do ancient Mesopotamian beliefs connect to Lilith? Why has modern culture embraced her as a symbol of empowerment? What can Christians learn about spiritual discernment from this topic? We’ll also examine the broader biblical themes of rebellion, deception, spiritual warfare, and the importance of testing every claim against God’s Word. Rather than building doctrine on folklore or internet speculation, we’ll look carefully at the historical context, the Hebrew text, and what Scripture clearly teaches. Whether you’ve heard Lilith discussed in connection with ancient mythology, occult practices, feminism, or spiritual warfare, this conversation will equip you to think critically and biblically about one of history’s most mysterious figures. “Test everything; hold fast what is good.” — 1 Thessalonians 5:21 If this episode encourages you, be sure to like, subscribe, and share so more people can discover the truth beneath the surface. #Lilith #SpiritualWarfare #BeneathTheSurface #ChristianPodcast #BiblicalTruth #AncientHistory #Isaiah34 #SpiritualDiscernment #BibleStudy #Occult #Mythology #JesusChrist #Faith #Apologetics #Deliverance

  4. 17 jun

    Deliverance + Spiritual Freedom

    This episode of Beneath the Surface Melissa and Christie dive into the themes of repentance, forgiveness, and the role of faith in finding freedom from spiritual oppression. The conversation delves into the process of deliverance and the steps involved in achieving freedom from strongholds and generational patterns. It emphasizes the importance of forgiveness, renouncing sin, breaking strongholds, and receiving the Holy Spirit's healing. The legacy of faith and healing is discussed, highlighting the impact on future generations. Takeaways Spiritual deliverance involves repentance, forgiveness, and a deep commitment to faith.Confession of sin brings darkness into the light and invites healing and accountability.Fear and anxiety are considered as sins and are rooted in a lack of faith. Forgiveness releases bitterness and aligns the heart with Christ's teachings.Renouncing sin involves rejecting previous influences and agreements with fear, lies, and ungodly practices.Deliverance involves breaking strongholds, commanding spirits to leave, and receiving the Holy Spirit's healing.The legacy of faith and healing impacts future generations, breaking generational patterns and creating a new trajectory of freedom and healing. Chapters 00:00 The Role of Repentance and Forgiveness40:33 The Power of Forgiveness and Release50:11 Breaking Strongholds and Commanding Spirits01:00:28 Renouncing Sin and Receiving Healing01:10:57 Creating a New Legacy of Faith

  5. 10 jun

    Generational Curses + Strongholds

    In this powerful episode of Beneath the Surface, we dive deep into one of the most discussed yet often misunderstood topics in spiritual warfare: generational curses and strongholds. Are patterns of sin, trauma, addiction, broken relationships, or spiritual oppression truly passed down through family lines? What does the Bible actually say? And how do we find lasting freedom through Jesus? We explore key Scriptures like Exodus 20:5, Ezekiel 18, Galatians 3:13, and 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. Through honest conversation, personal stories, guest insights (if applicable), and biblical truth, we unpack how sin creates cycles—but Christ breaks them. This isn’t about superstition or fear; it’s about discernment, repentance, renewal of the mind, and walking in the victory already won at the cross. Whether you’re seeing repeating struggles in your family (addiction, poverty mindsets, anger, occult involvement, etc.) or want to leave a godly legacy, this episode equips you with truth and practical steps. The cycle stops here—in Jesus’ name. Key Takeaway: You are not doomed to repeat your family’s history. In Christ, you are a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). Generational patterns can be recognized, repented of, and replaced with blessing. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Generational Curses and Strongholds06:04 Breaking Generational Curses10:57 Biblical Concepts and Scriptures29:02 Personal Testimonies and Reflections36:07 Impact of Cultural Strongholds43:21 The Influence of Social Media on Identity49:26 The Impact of Self-Worth on Relationships55:30 The Power of Self-Talk and Forgiveness01:00:48 The Importance of Biblical Knowledge01:09:24 Creating a New Legacy of Freedom01:15:28 Empowering Future Generations What the Bible Says About Generational Curses The primary verses are in the context of the Ten Commandments and God’s character: Exodus 20:5-6 (ESV): “You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.” Similar in Exodus 34:6-7, Numbers 14:18, Deuteronomy 5:9. Explanation: “Visiting iniquity” means God allows the natural consequences of sin to ripple through generations—learned behaviors, modeling, environmental factors, and sometimes spiritual oppression where doors were opened (e.g., idolatry, occult). It’s not God actively punishing innocent children, but the outworking of sin in a fallen world. Ezekiel 18:20 clarifies: “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father…” Each person is accountable. Understanding Strongholds (2 Corinthians 10:3-5) “For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ…” Prayer Against Curses and Strongholds : Heavenly Father, I come before You in the mighty name of Jesus. I repent for any sin in my life or in my family line that has opened doors to curses or strongholds. I renounce [name specific patterns: addiction, occult, fear, etc.]. I break every generational chain by the blood of Jesus. I declare I am a new creation. Every stronghold is torn down. Holy Spirit, fill me afresh. I choose blessing and obedience. Amen.

  6. 3 jun

    New Age to Christ with Anastasia Gerali

    For years, Anastasia Gerali was deeply immersed in the New Age movement as a teacher, clinical hypnotherapist, and trauma specialist. What she thought was leading people to healing was actually leading her further from the truth. Then everything changed. After a powerful encounter with Jesus Christ, Anastasia walked away from New Age spirituality, soft occult practices, and the beliefs she once taught. Today, she helps women find true freedom through Christ, healing from trauma, and spiritual restoration. Join us as we dive deep into the transformative journey from New Age spirituality to a faith-based life in Christ. In this episode, Anastasia shares her powerful story of healing, deliverance, and the truth behind spiritual warfare. Discover how she helps women break free from trauma and align their lives with God's kingdom. * The hidden dangers of New Age practices * How trauma can make people vulnerable to spiritual deception * What led Anastasia to leave it all behind * Deliverance, healing, and finding freedom in Jesus * How to discern truth in a world full of counterfeits This is a conversation you won't want to miss. Tuesdays at 11:00 AM ET Beneath the Surface Podcast Guest: Anastasia Gerali Instagram @the.reborn.anastasia Takeaways New Age DeceptionDangers of Manifestation Ayahuasca retreat experienceSpiritual journey and transformation Healing and deliverance through ChristUnderstanding the spiritual realm Chapters 00:00 New Age Spirituality and Manifestation08:47 The Spiritual Influence and Consequences15:56 The Journey into New Age Practices23:31 The Transition to Hypnotherapy and Light Language31:36 Ayahuasca and Spiritual Awakening42:25 Ayahuasca Retreat Experience57:03 Mental Health Struggles and Spiritual Awakening01:12:49 Theosis and Spiritual Freedom01:27:08 The Power of Christ's Sacrifice01:41:41 Healing, Deliverance, and Spiritual Understanding

  7. 28 may

    What Lurks In The Unseen Realm?

    What if the world around us is more than just what we can see? In this episode of Beneath the Surface, we dive into the mysteries of the unseen realm, the spiritual world operating beyond human eyes and what Scripture actually says about it. From angels and demons to spiritual warfare, principalities, deception, discernment, and the battle for influence over humanity, we explore the questions many people are afraid to ask inside the church. Christie and Melissa speak on spiritual warfare, exploring the unseen battle and the influence of spirits and divine beings. They also discuss the nature of angels and demons, idolatry, the supernatural in Christianity, the influence of shadim and demons, and the characteristics of named spirits like Ahab, Absalom, Python, Leviathan, religious, fear, poverty, familiar, and monitoring spirits. Are unseen forces affecting our thoughts, culture, and daily lives? What did ancient biblical writers understand about the spiritual realm that modern Christianity often avoids? And how do we stay grounded in truth instead of fear? We discuss: • What the Bible says about the unseen realm • Angels, fallen angels, and spiritual beings • Spiritual warfare and unseen influences • Discernment vs deception • Why people are becoming fascinated with the supernatural again • How faith in Jesus brings authority, peace, and clarity in spiritual darkness This conversation goes beyond surface-level Christianity into the deeper spiritual realities woven throughout Scripture. Whether you’re curious, skeptical, or searching for answers, this episode challenges listeners to think critically, stay spiritually aware, and test everything against biblical truth. 🎙️ Beneath the Surface is where we explore the topics many avoid — the hidden, the difficult, and the spiritual truths shaping the world around us. Takeaways Spiritual WarfareNamed Spirits Spiritual forces and their impactRecognizing familiar spirits and their influence Territorial spiritsSpiritual mapping Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Spiritual Warfare11:39 The Nature of Angels and Demons17:21 The Influence of Shadim and Demons27:21 The Characteristics of Named Spirits48:46 Understanding Spiritual Forces53:48 The Python Spirit01:00:50 The Religious Spirit01:08:14 The Spirit of Poverty01:20:08 Territorial Spirits01:29:37 Spiritual Mapping

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What if there’s more to the Bible, and the world around us, than what we’ve been taught? Beneath the Surface goes deeper into the conversations many people are curious about but rarely hear discussed. From the unseen realm, spiritual warfare and the supernatural to powerful testimonies of people who have walked through darkness, deception, trauma, the New Age and the occult and found Jesus on the other side. We explore Scripture, ask hard questions, challenge cultural narratives and examine the things that are often dismissed, misunderstood or simply left unexplained. Some episodes will make you think. Some may challenge what you believe. And some will remind you just how powerfully Jesus is still transforming lives. We’re not here to tell you what to think. We’re here to dig deeper, bring everything back to Scripture and encourage you to seek the Truth for yourself. Unseen Battles. Real Stories. Biblical Truths. Come curious. We’re going beneath the surface.