With Interest

The With Interest podcast brings you unrivalled commentary and thought leadership for businesses, accounting and finance professionals. Each week, we share expert industry opinions, insights and resources across accounting, public practice, taxation, auditing, finance, strategy, leadership, economic and business-related issues. Subscribe today to stay up-to-date with the latest episodes. With Interest is presented by CPA Australia, one of the world's largest accounting bodies, with core services that include education, training, technical support and advocacy. In 2018, CPA Australia won an Award of Excellence at the 24th Annual Communicator Awards in the category of 'Podcasts - General-Corporation/Business'. ---------------------------------------------------- CPA Australia publishes three podcasts: - With Interest - INTHEBLACK - Excel Tips To find out more about our podcasts, visit https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts - or search for the shows in your podcast service. To contact the podcast team email us at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au.

  1. Tax Time 2026: How ATO protects your financial data

    1d ago

    Tax Time 2026: How ATO protects your financial data

    Cyber fraud is not going to stop overnight.  It will continue to become more sophisticated and pervasive as time goes on.  Which means this third episode in the tax time 2026 series is even more relevant today as it focuses on fraud risks and how you can protect your financial data.  With guest expertise from Jade Hawkins, assistant commissioner in the ATO's fraud and criminal behaviours business line, and hosted by CPA Australia's tax lead Jenny Wong, deep dive into the ATO's counter-fraud program, emerging scam trends and the practical tools now available to strengthen digital security across the tax system ahead of tax time 2026.  Additionally, explore new features in the ATO app that give taxpayers more control over their accounts to the steps agents can take to protect their clients and their own practices from new threats.  In this episode, you will also gain expert information on:  why identity theft and frauds are becoming more sophisticated  what tax agents can do to protect clients and their own practices  the most common fraud and cyber-attack techniques targeting the sector  why strong myID settings and multifactor authentication matter  how phishing, malware and credential stuffing attacks are evolving  what happens when a taxpayer's account is compromised.  Tune in now.  Host: Jenny Wong, tax lead, CPA Australia  Guest: Jade Hawkins, assistant commissioner in the ATO's fraud and criminal behaviours business line  For more, head to CPA Australia's tax time tools and resources page.  Additionally, you can head to the ATO website or download the ATO app.  The ATO also has online services and you can go on the ATO website to verify or report a scam or learn how to stay scam safe.  And you can phone the ATO on 1800 008 540.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au  Chapters:  00:00 Fraud Prevention Urgency: ATO, Tax Agents and Evolving Scam Risks 00:22 Intro - Jenny Wong - Tax Time 2026 00:39 Jade Hawkins (ATO) on the Counter Fraud Program Overview 01:08 What Is the ATO Counter Fraud Program? $187M Investment Explained 01:17 Proactive Fraud Detection: Real-Time Data, Analytics and System Protections (ATO) 03:20 ATO App Security Updates: How Taxpayers Can Stay Safe with myID 03:30 Real-Time Alerts, Account Locking and Fraud Prevention via ATO App 04:01 Case Study: Stopping Tax Refund Fraud Using ATO App Notifications 05:49 ATO "Verify Call" Feature: Detecting Scam Calls and Social Engineering 06:14 ATO App Tools for Taxpayers: myDeductions, Pre-Fill Data, Refund Tracking 07:25 How Tax Agents Can Protect Clients: myID, ATO App and Fraud Awareness 08:21 Cybersecurity Best Practices: MFA, Strong Passphrases, Software Updates 10:23 ATO Resources and Training: Tax Fraud Hub and Cybersecurity Modules 11:03 Current Scam Trends: PII Data Breaches and Identity Theft Risks (ATO Insights) 11:40 Fraud Targeting Tax Agents: Phishing, Malware and Credential Stuffing 13:48 What Happens If a Taxpayer Is Compromised? ATO Safeguards Explained 15:54 Final Advice from Jade Hawkins: Vigilance, ATO App and Strong Access Controls 16:23 Conclusion: Tax Time 2026 Fraud Risks and Key Takeaways for Agents

    17 min
  2. Tax Time 2026: Small business guide to ATO compliance

    Jun 9

    Tax Time 2026: Small business guide to ATO compliance

    Tax time can add to the stress of small business.  So, to help reduce that worry, this episode is devoted entirely to small business issues for tax time 2026.  With high-level expertise from the ATO's Angela Allen, assistant commissioner responsible for small business experience, in the studio with CPA Australia's tax lead Jenny Wong, explore the most common tax issues affecting small business, and how you can stay compliant.  In this episode, you'll gain valuable information on:  The most common tax time mistakes made by small businesses  Why accurate record keeping is still critical for compliance  The ATO's key focus areas for small business audits and reviews  How data matching is changing tax reporting and enforcement  What businesses need to know about Payday Super changes  How the instant asset write-off applies this financial year  Why cashflow management is essential for meeting obligations  The support tools and learning resources available for business owners  How the ATO is addressing shadow economy activity and tax evasion  Why early engagement with advisers and the ATO can prevent bigger problems  Tune in now.  Host: Jenny Wong, tax lead, CPA Australia  Guest: Angela Allen, assistant commissioner at the ATO, responsible for small business experience  For more, head to CPA Australia's tax time tools and resources page.  And of course, you can head to the ATO website or you can download the ATO app.  The ATO also has online services and you can go to the ATO website and search verify or report a scam or how to stay scam safe for more information. And you can phone the ATO on 1800 008 540.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au  Chapters: 00:00 Cash Flow Pressure for Small Businesses and When to Contact the ATO 00:16 Tax Time 2026 Overview with Angela Allen, Australian Taxation Office 01:00 Common Small Business Tax Time Mistakes and Record‑Keeping Errors 02:06 ATO Record‑Keeping Tools: Recordkeeping Evaluation and myDeductions App 02:38 ATO Small Business Compliance Focus Areas for 2026 02:58 ATO Small Business Compliance Risks: Income Reporting, Employer Super Obligations, and Cash‑in‑Hand Payments 04:08 ATO Small Business Tax Time Toolkit and Online Learning Resources 05:27 Managing Cash Flow Stress and Early Engagement with the ATO 05:51 Tax Time 2026 Changes: TPAR Reporting and Pre‑Fill Data 06:37 Instant Asset Write‑Off Rules for Small Businesses 06:56 Payday Super Starting 1 July and Employer Readiness 07:18 Staying Compliant Year‑Round Using Digital Tax Tools 08:15 GST, PAYG Withholding, Superannuation, and Cash Flow Planning 09:05 ATO Priorities on the Shadow Economy and Cash‑in‑Hand Payments 10:26 Episode Wrap‑Up and CPA Australia Resources #taxtime #smallbusiness #smallbusinesstax #compliance #ATO

    11 min
  3. Tax Time 2026: ATO's main focus areas

    Jun 2 ·  Video

    Tax Time 2026: ATO's main focus areas

    Tax time 2026 is upon us. And in this first episode, unpack the ATO's major focus areas.  Also, for tax agents and taxpayers, gain practical insights ahead of lodgement season. Key learnings:  The ATO's biggest priorities for tax time 2026  Why misinformation and AI-generated advice are growing risks  Common errors in work-related and car expense claims  What taxpayers often miss in income reporting  How to manage work-from-home deductions correctly  Why accurate record keeping matters more than ever  What agents should know about trust reporting updates  How to identify increasingly sophisticated tax scams  Why trusted advice and official sources are still critical  Tune in now.  Host: Jenny Wong, tax lead, CPA Australia  Guest: Anita Challen, assistant commissioner, ATO.  For more, head to CPA Australia's tax time tools and resources page.  And of course, you can head to the ATO website or you can download the ATO app.  The ATO also has online services and you can go on the ATO website and search verify or report a scam or how to stay scam safe for more information. And you can phone the ATO on 1800 008 540.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au  Chapters: 00:00 Episode opening  00:14 Introduction to CPA Australia's With Interest podcast Tax Time episode 1  01:01 What is the ATO focusing on this tax time?  02:17 Tax time 2026 updates agents need to know  03:24 ATO toolkits, rental property checklists and trust return pre-fill  04:32 How the ATO is using AI and automation  05:39 The biggest tax mistakes taxpayers still make  06:00 Why record keeping and substantiation matter  07:03 Work-related expenses under ATO scrutiny  07:12 Car expense claims: what you can and cannot claim  08:43 Self-education deductions: what qualifies and what does not  09:24 Working from home deductions: records, rates and receipts  11:07 Income reporting mistakes that trip people up  12:49 Do cash jobs need to be declared?  13:03 Good record keeping habits for tax time  13:59 How to spot tax misinformation online  15:09 Tax scams: warning signs and how to stay safe  16:09 How to verify ATO contact using the ATO app  17:45 Final advice for agents and clients heading into tax time 2026  18:37 Episode wrap-up and key takeaways

    19 min
  4. Federal Budget 2026-27: CPA Australia's expert analysis

    May 13 ·  Video

    Federal Budget 2026-27: CPA Australia's expert analysis

    In this special Federal Budget 2026–27 episode, hear expert analysis of the measures announced by Treasurer Jim Chalmers in last night's budget.  CPA Australia's business and tax policy experts break down what Budget 2026–27 means for the issues that matter most to businesses and Australians.  Analysis and commentary include:  Overall reaction: Did the budget deliver?  Who were the winners and losers?  The tax measures examined, including CGT and negative gearing  Building wealth and investor confidence analysed  What the budget means for entrepreneurs  The impact on businesses, trusts and intergenerational equity  Revenues and WATO (Working Australians Tax Offset) explained  Productivity and regulation initiatives assessed  Tune in for a practical, expert-led breakdown of the budget measures announced in Canberra last night and what they could mean for you and the future of business in Australia.  Host: Elinor Kasapidis, chief of policy, Standards and External Affairs Policy, CPA Australia  Guests: Gavan Ord, business investment and international lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia, and Jenny Wong, tax lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia.  For more, head to the Federal Budget 2026-27 page on the CPA Australia website, which has comprehensive coverage of last night's announcement, including CPA Australia's pre-budget submission.  And on YouTube later today (May 13), tune into the webinar with CPA Australia's policy experts, who discuss and distil the key announcements from the 2026-27 Australian Federal Budget.  This event will have a 1 CPD-hour learning outcome.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your favourite podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au

    20 min
  5. May 5

    Tax reform insights from a global policy expert

    Tax reform.  It's one of the most hotly debated issues around the world.  And as global tax expert Viva Hammer notes, the biggest barrier to tax reform in Australia is not policy – it is the pursuit of perfection.  In this episode of With Interest, she brings a global perspective shaped by her work on significant tax reforms in recent US history.  Her message is clear: progress comes from doing something better, not waiting for something perfect.  Main learnings include:  lessons from US tax reform and what Australia can apply  why "better, not perfect" is critical for improving tax reform  how predictability drives investment more than headline tax rates  how to provide certainty for international investors  the role of GST as a more efficient and sustainable tax base  the fairness of corporate tax versus consumption and land taxes  where Australia sits in the global tax competition landscape  As we head toward the 2026 Federal Budget, it's clear that governments, businesses, and the accounting profession are grappling with complex and interconnected challenges – from investment certainty to intergenerational fairness and the future of our tax mix.  This episode is a timely look at a key issue with one of the most respected global voices in tax.  Tune in now.  Host: Jenny Wong, tax lead, CPA Australia  Guest: Viva Hammer, a leading global tax policy expert. Most of her career was spent in the US as partner in New York and Washington law and consulting firms as well as at the US Treasury Department and US Congress. She now brings that international perspective back to Australia.  For more, head to Viva's website.  And don't forget to check out CPA Australia's YouTube channel for the upcoming live Federal Budget 2026 webinar.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au

    20 min
  6. Apr 28

    Managing cashflow pressures: Insights for small business

    Cashflow planning is now critical for small businesses.  In an environment of volatile fuel prices, interest rate uncertainty and upcoming changes to payday super, this episode will help you understand and manage today's cashflow challenges.  Key learnings:  why cashflow pressure is increasing across small businesses   how to approach simple, practical cashflow forecasting   the impact of payday super on cashflow timing and planning   pricing decisions and their role in protecting margins   managing supplier and customer payment terms effectively   when to use financing, overdrafts or alternative funding   risks of relying on tax liabilities or high-cost lending   building resilience through relationships and early planning   the role of accountants, bookkeepers and business owners working together  how to identify opportunities even in uncertain conditions  Even well-run businesses can face cashflow challenges if these pressures are not actively planned for.  Listen in for an expert-led discussion.  Host:  Richard Webb, Superannuation Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia  Guests: Matthew Addison, Executive Director of the Institute of Certified Bookkeepers, and Gavan Ord, Business and Investment Lead, CPA Australia.    For more, there's the recent With Interest podcast on how global conflict is shaping energy, supply chains and business strategy.  And CPA Australia's YouTube livestream is on April 29, 2026 (1-2pm AEST). It's called, 'Get ready for pain-free Payday Super'.  More information can be found in the ATO Payday Super guide.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au

    25 min
  7. Apr 21

    Global volatility, energy shocks and business resilience

    It's a volatile world. Energy security, trade in primary resources and food supply are all reshaping the rules of resilience.  In this timely episode, CPA Australia's experts unpack how global conflict is affecting the operating environment for business, finance and policy leaders.  With the current geopolitical tensions as the backdrop, learn how energy shocks, supply chain disruption and inflation pressures are forcing a rethink of long-term strategy.  CPA Australia's policy leaders lean into what this crisis also means for net zero targets and sustainability.  Key issues examined include:    • how energy chokepoints drive inflation and policy decisions  • why lean supply chains are now a structural risk  • what resilience really looks like in practice across business and government  • the evolving trade-offs between energy security and net zero goals  • why sustainability is becoming a core part of national security and business planning  Listen in for expert-led insight.  Host: Elinor Kasapidis, Chief of Policy, Professional Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia.  Guests: Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia, and Patrick Viljoen. ESG Lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia.  For more, head to the CPA Australia website for business strategies to help navigate today's uncertain global landscape.  And check out our YouTube live webinar series on the CPA Australia channel, where you'll find a three-part ESG webinar series, as well as our upcoming live webinar for the federal budget.  We also have insights from the small business survey and a range of other interesting webinars coming up.  Loving this episode?  Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career and keep you informed.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au

    27 min
  8. Apr 7

    Navigating business in today's uncertain global landscape

    It's a volatile world, and businesses are under pressure.  In this episode of With Interest, Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International lead at CPA Australia, explores how businesses are navigating an increasingly unstable global environment marked by geopolitical conflict, cost pressures and economic shocks.  The conversation draws on insights from CPA Australia's Asia-Pacific Small Business Survey to unpack how small and medium enterprises (SMEs) are coping, and what separates those that merely survive from those that emerge stronger.  The discussion emphasises that while volatility is becoming the norm, uncertainty does not have to result in paralysis.  Instead, thoughtful planning, investment in capability, and trusted advice can help businesses build resilience and position for long‑term growth, even as governments and markets remain focused on short‑term crises.  Key areas covered:  How global conflicts, fuel price shocks and inflation affect small businesses across Australia and the APAC region.  How a risk‑averse mindset changes business decision‑making, and the risks of focusing only on cost‑cutting.  What role accountants and advisors can play through scenario planning, forecasting and calming decision‑making.  Why businesses that continue investing in technology, innovation and management capability perform better during crises.  If you're navigating uncertainty in business, this episode has expert insights to help.  Host:  Elinor Kasapidis, Chief of Policy, Standards and External Affairs, CPA Australia  Guest: Gavan Ord, Business Investment and International lead, Policy and Advocacy, CPA Australia  For more, head online for CPA Australia's 17th Asia-Pacific Small Business Survey.  CPA Australia also has tips for managing through tough times and managing through a high cost environment  ABC News finance journalist Alan Kohler talking about fluctuating oil prices on April 7, mentioned in this episode.   Loving this episode? Listen to more With Interest episodes and other CPA Australia podcasts on YouTube.  https://www.youtube.com/@CPAaustralia/podcasts  And don't forget to click subscribe to the channel for a wide range of content that will help your career.  CPA Australia publishes four podcasts, providing commentary and thought leadership across business, finance and accounting:  With Interest https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/with-interest  INTHEBLACK https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack  INTHEBLACK Out Loud https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/intheblack-outloud  Excel Tips https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts/excel-tips  Search for them in your podcast platform. Email the podcast team at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au

    23 min

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The With Interest podcast brings you unrivalled commentary and thought leadership for businesses, accounting and finance professionals. Each week, we share expert industry opinions, insights and resources across accounting, public practice, taxation, auditing, finance, strategy, leadership, economic and business-related issues. Subscribe today to stay up-to-date with the latest episodes. With Interest is presented by CPA Australia, one of the world's largest accounting bodies, with core services that include education, training, technical support and advocacy. In 2018, CPA Australia won an Award of Excellence at the 24th Annual Communicator Awards in the category of 'Podcasts - General-Corporation/Business'. ---------------------------------------------------- CPA Australia publishes three podcasts: - With Interest - INTHEBLACK - Excel Tips To find out more about our podcasts, visit https://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/tools-and-resources/podcasts - or search for the shows in your podcast service. To contact the podcast team email us at podcasts@cpaaustralia.com.au.

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