Work Is Third

Dawn Hunter

Work Is Third is a podcast for people who are ready to rethink how we work, lead, and live. Hosted by Dawn Hunter, JD, MPH, CWP — Workplace Culture Strategist and creator of the RESET Method — this show explores burnout prevention, boundaries, organizational wellbeing, and sustainable ways of working through honest conversations, research-informed insights, and real-world leadership stories. Each episode offers practical tools, reflective moments, and culture-shifting ideas to help individuals and organizations build healthier, more human ways of working — without losing what matters most.

  1. 12/01/2025

    Reflections on Work Is Third: Building a Community and a Movement

    How are you pausing and reflecting this holiday season? In this reflective solo episode, Dawn pauses as we head into the holidays to share what’s happening across the Work Is Third movement—from the new Bookshop.org list and the Joyful Rebellion playlist to her bi-weekly newsletters and your opportunity to send in voice notes. Dawn also revisits her favorite guest quotes, emerging themes across the first season, and her own “bonus clip moment” where she answers the same questions she asks every guest:• What’s easy to say yes to?• What’s hard to say no to?• Where is she doing well with joy, rest, and boundaries?• Where is she still struggling? She closes with reflections on slowing down, stillness, present bias, perfectionism, listening to your body, and redefining success—plus an invitation to choose joy, protect your peace, and rest this holiday season. In this episode: Protecting your joy in hard cultural moments A preview of the The Joyful Rebellion Reading List at Bookshop.org The Joyful Rebellion playlist + newsletter updates Why your voice notes matter and how to send one Guest quotes Dawn can’t stop thinking about Top themes emerging across the podcast Dawn’s personal “bonus clip” answers What she’s learned about rest, boundaries, stillness, and slowing down An end-of-year invitation to choose yourself first Resources Mentioned: Bookshop list: The Joyful Rebellion Reading List The Joyful Rebellion newsletter: The Joyful Rebellion — Rest, Boundaries & Workplace Wellbeing The Joyful Rebellion Spotify Playlist Send Dawn a voice note Connect with Dawn and Work is Third!🎧 Subscribe to the show 📸 Instagram: @workisthirdlife 🌐workisthird.com

    24 min
  2. 11/24/2025

    The Inner King: Hustle, Heal, and Break the Cycle | Adam Wilson

    We’re taught to hustle. We’re never taught to heal. That changes in this episode. Mindset and wellness coach Adam Wilson joins Work Is Third for a powerful and vulnerable conversation about healing, habits, father and mother wounds, breaking generational patterns, and learning to rest. Adam shares how childhood trauma shaped his early life, what pushed him out of tech and into coaching, how he helps men reconnect with their Inner King, and the importance of sleep, routines, rest, and perspective in healing. Together, we explore transitions, self-doubt, boundary-setting—especially with parents—and practical steps to break the cycles we inherited. This episode is a reminder that healing is possible, seasons change, and you always have the power to rewrite your story. 📚 Guest Info IG/Tiktok: @Theadamwilson_Facebook: Adam J Wilson 🎶Adam's contribution to The Joyful Rebellion Spotify Playlist: Miguel, Skywalker 📚 Resources Mentioned The Untethered Soul by Michael A. SingerThe Garden Within by Dr. Anita PhillipsAdam’s podcast: Hustle & HealInstitute of Integrative Nutrition (IIN) 💬 Key Quotes “What’s uncomfortable now can be comfortable later.”“You are your best project. When are you going to take time for yourself?”“I love you, but I love me more.”“We’re taught to hustle, but nobody teaches us how to heal.”“Sometimes you have to rest to remember who you actually are.” Let’s Stay Connected 🎧 Subscribe to the show! 📬Subscribe to The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter 📸 Instagram: @workisthirdlife   📂 Section Markers 00:46 Section 1: Life Transitions and Childhood Patterns 25:14 Section 2: Routines, Rest, and Rewriting Your Story   📌Episode Chapters/Timestamps 00:00 Navigating Transitions and Embracing Change 02:46 The Power of Mindset and Daily Routines 05:13 Integrating Technology in Coaching 08:11 The Importance of Sleep and Rest 10:49 Creating Healthy Habits and Routines 17:01 Exploring Sleep and Body Awareness 20:08 The Journey to Coaching and Personal Growth 22:34 Understanding Childhood Patterns and Their Impact 25:58 The Role of Male Mentorship and Support 28:35 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Building Confidence 30:07 The Power of Perspective and Reading 37:08 Finding Purpose Beyond a Job 39:47 Embracing Rest and Personal Development 41:03 The Importance of Rest and Recovery 45:13 The Hustle and Heal Podcast Journey 46:29 Setting Boundaries with Family 46:56 Childhood Trauma and Its Impact 48:35 Embracing Uncomfortable Growth

    50 min
  3. 11/17/2025

    The Systems You Need to Live Your Best Life | Averri Simone Liggins

    How do you run a business, care for a parent, and thrive with a chronic health condition? In this heartfelt and practical conversation, systems strategist and author Averri Simone Liggins shares the structures and routines that help her run a thriving business while also serving as a full-time caregiver and navigating chronic health challenges. We talk about the real-world power of systems as tools that make space for joy, boundaries, and taking care of both your future self and your present self. We dig into:• Why systems are the secret to more freedom• How caregiving reshaped her business• Saying no with confidence• Managing energy, not just time• The joy of hobbies, WWE nights, and creative adventures• And the importance of planning both rest and fun It’s a conversation full of warmth, wisdom, and real talk about life, business, boundaries, and what it takes to build a life that supports you. 📚 Guest Info Autopilot Your Success —Averri’s BookWebsite: www.blackwomenmoguls.com Social media: @blackwomenmoguls 💬 Key Quotes “My purpose is to build my business around my life—not the other way around.”“No is a complete sentence. You’re not being selfish by prioritizing yourself.” “If I don’t take care of myself, I won’t be able to take care of my mother.” “Knowing when to stop before you’re forced to stop is so important.” “Systems are usually the last thing we think about—until we need them.” Let’s Stay Connected 🎧 Subscribe to the show! 📬 Subscribe to The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter 📸 Instagram: @workisthirdlife   📂 Section Markers 01:01 Section 1: Why Systems Matter for Building a Life That Works 23:30 Section 2: Health, Wealth, and Taking Care of Your Future Self 📌Episode Chapters/Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Systems and Success 01:34 The Birth of 'Autopilot Your Success' 07:10 The Importance of Systems in Business 10:55 Balancing Caregiving and Entrepreneurship 13:43 Listening to Your Body and Planning Breaks 19:24 Building a Business Around Your Life 20:33 Setting Boundaries for Personal Well-being 24:07 Navigating Personal Relationships and Boundaries 28:21 Future Self and Decision Making 29:41 Finding Balance in Life 32:31 Embracing Hobbies and Interests 36:45 Self-Care Practices and Rituals 39:28 The Importance of Exercise and Health 43:06 Navigating Health Challenges 45:09 Setting Boundaries and Saying No 45:16 Delegating and Asking for Help

    48 min
5
out of 5
13 Ratings

About

Work Is Third is a podcast for people who are ready to rethink how we work, lead, and live. Hosted by Dawn Hunter, JD, MPH, CWP — Workplace Culture Strategist and creator of the RESET Method — this show explores burnout prevention, boundaries, organizational wellbeing, and sustainable ways of working through honest conversations, research-informed insights, and real-world leadership stories. Each episode offers practical tools, reflective moments, and culture-shifting ideas to help individuals and organizations build healthier, more human ways of working — without losing what matters most.