500 episodes

Peel back the glamour of the professional recording world. Guests from the world of audio for music, film, games, restoration, and more share their insights on how they made their journey, how they survive, their advice on the real things including wins, losses, working with other people, money, and career advice. 
Hosted by audio engineer Matt Boudreau.
The Working Class Audio Podcast - Navigating the World of Recording with a working class perspective.

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    • 4.8 • 195 Ratings

Peel back the glamour of the professional recording world. Guests from the world of audio for music, film, games, restoration, and more share their insights on how they made their journey, how they survive, their advice on the real things including wins, losses, working with other people, money, and career advice. 
Hosted by audio engineer Matt Boudreau.
The Working Class Audio Podcast - Navigating the World of Recording with a working class perspective.

    WCA #500 with Catherine Marks - From Architect to Producer, Fearlessness, Supportive Mentors, Managing Creative Conflicts, and Capturing the Immediacy of a Moment

    WCA #500 with Catherine Marks - From Architect to Producer, Fearlessness, Supportive Mentors, Managing Creative Conflicts, and Capturing the Immediacy of a Moment

    My guest today is Grammy-winning London-based producer and mixer Catherine Marks, who has worked on projects for boygenius, Wolf Alice, and The Mysterines.  

    In this episode, we discuss

    Upbringing in Australia

    Early exposure to music through parents' record collection

    Participation in a Yamaha piano course at an all-girls school

    Development of interest in songwriting and record production

    Studying architecture at the University of Melbourne

    Taking a year out to work in Dublin

    Introduction to Dublin's music

    Immersion in live music and DJ nights in Dublin

    Discovery of interest in music production and reverb

    Transition from architecture degree to music production career

    Learning about music production while working for Flood

    Recording a song with Elastica, gaining Flood's attention

    Fearlessness and willingness to take opportunities

    Early advice from her father and

    Support from the Dublin community

    Early experiences in the studio,

    Multitasking in various roles

    Learning via observing, asking questions, and reading manuals

    Development of skills and studio efficiency

    Mentorship from Alan Moulder

    Working with producers like Dmitry Tikovoy, Ben Hillier, and Flood

    Importance of capturing the immediacy of a moment over technical perfection

    Discipline to let go of awareness and move forward in projects

    Managing creative conflicts and rising from unknown engineer to sought-after producer

    Establishing connections with key individuals in the music industry

    Importance of mutual understanding and communication in the recording process

    Working with Alan Moulder and Flood, enhancing her career

    Mutual respect and high expectations foster professional growth

    Importance of enjoying projects and respecting colleagues

    Prioritizing a balanced lifestyle over immediate success

    Pressure to maintain career momentum and need for self-care to prevent burnout

    Consistent commitment and passion for work

    Experiences and reflections on winning a Grammy award

    Highs and lows of industry recognition

    Challenges of being away for extended periods during album work

    Anticipation for future projects and collaborations


    Matt's Rant: 500 Episodes and Pressing On
    Links and Show Notes

    Catherine's Site

    Catherine on Instagram


    Credits

    Guest: Catherine Marks

    Host: Matt Boudreau

    Engineer: Matt Boudreau

    Producer: Matt Boudreau

    Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau 

    WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell 

    Announcer: Chuck Smith 

    • 1 hr 17 min
    WCA #499 with Stephen Kerrison - Touring to Mastering, Weird Jungle, Liverpool Music Scene, Instilling Confidence, Listening, and The Importance of Taste in Mastering

    WCA #499 with Stephen Kerrison - Touring to Mastering, Weird Jungle, Liverpool Music Scene, Instilling Confidence, Listening, and The Importance of Taste in Mastering

    My guest today is UK-based mastering engineer Stephen Kerrison, known for his work with Petbrick, Ditz, Charles Watson, Jake Isaac, Lleo, and Liz Lawrence. This is Stephen's second appearance on Working Class Audio, his first being WCA #413 alongside Katie Tavini, a fellow Weird Jungle Mastering Collective member.
    In this episode, we discuss

    Weird Jungle Collective Update

    Liverpool Music Scene Evolution

    Working Under a Record Shop

    From Touring to Mastering

    Collective's Structural Changes

    Industry's Financial Realities

    Instilling Confidence

    Balancing Creativity and Technique

    Musicians' Record Perspectives

    Older vs. Younger Musicians

    Transition to Mastering

    Mastering Different Genres

    Challenges of Live Performance

    Importance of Taste in Mastering

    Exploring the UK Music Scene

    Collaborative Music Environment

    Managing Work-Life Balance

    Financial Strategy

    Use of Backing Tracks

    Maintaining Artist Confidence

    Comparison to Visual Art

    Listening

    Checking Out The Competition

    Seth Godin


    Matt's Rant: Stepping Away
    Links and Show Notes

    Matt's Photo Instagram account

    WCA #413

    Stephens Site

    Katie's Site

    Weird Jungle



    Credits

    Guest: Stephen Kerrison

    Host: Matt Boudreau

    Engineer: Matt Boudreau

    Producer: Matt Boudreau

    Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau 

    WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell 

    Announcer: Chuck Smith 

    • 1 hr 3 min
    WCA #498 with Jacob Winik - Gillman Street Experiences, Improving Live Sound, Tiny Telephone, Improved Quality of Life, and Cosmic Standard

    WCA #498 with Jacob Winik - Gillman Street Experiences, Improving Live Sound, Tiny Telephone, Improved Quality of Life, and Cosmic Standard

    My guest today is Jacob Winik, the COO, Technical Director, and Sound Designer at Cosmic Standard, an audio production company he co-founded with his wife, Eliza Smith, in January 2020. Jacob has collaborated on projects with TED, Patagonia, Dropbox, KQED, Samantha Crain, Meernaa, Doe Eye, and Steep Ravine. He previously worked as an audio engineer at Tiny Telephone in San Francisco.
    In this episode, we discuss

    Bay Area Upbringing

    Parents' Musical Influence

    Early Punk Music

    Divorce Sparks Punk Interest

    Gillman Street Experiences

    Technology at Home

    Early Instruments

    School Band Reluctance

    Discovering DIY Punk

    College Band Experience

    House Shows in College

    Obsessed with Music Making

    Improving Live Sound

    Early Recording Awareness

    DIY Recording at Gillman

    First Demo Recording

    College Film Studies

    Pursuit of Music Recording

    Internship at The Compound

    Learning Basic Recording Skills

    Building Client Relationships

    Internship at Fantasy Studios

    Analog Tape Recording Challenges

    Journey Recording Experience

    Interning with Magic Magic Orchestra

    John Vanderslice

    Studio Setup at Tiny Telephone

    Transition to Professional Engineer

    Hands-on Learning with Tape

    Podcast Company Formation

    Balancing Overhead Costs

    Scalable Team Structure

    Remote Work Adaptation

    Handling Pandemic Challenges

    Client Training Remotely

    Improved Quality of Life

    Building Client Relationships


    Matt's Rant: Moving Through Your Audio Career with Blinders On
    Links and Show Notes

    Cosmic Standard

    John Vanderslice on WCA


    Credits

    Guest: Jacob Winik

    Host: Matt Boudreau

    Engineer: Matt Boudreau

    Producer: Matt Boudreau

    Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau 

    WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell 

    Announcer: Chuck Smith 

       

    • 1 hr 9 min
    WCA #497 with Danny Reisch - Dallas Childhood Memories, Back to the Future, Daytrotter Sessions, Austin Music Scene, Moving to LA, and Making Records on Cassette 8 Tracks.

    WCA #497 with Danny Reisch - Dallas Childhood Memories, Back to the Future, Daytrotter Sessions, Austin Music Scene, Moving to LA, and Making Records on Cassette 8 Tracks.

    My guest today is Los Angeles-based Producer/Mixer/Engineer/Drummer Danny Reisch, who has worked on projects for Local Natives, Dirty Projectors, Khruangbin, Barns Courtney, White Denim, Other Lives, Shearwater, Sun June, Tele Novella, Intocable, Halo video game ( last 3 seasons), The Green Knight score (a24), Disney Peter Pan score, Interview With The Vampire score, Willie Nelson, Ed Sheeran, Lizzo, The Zombies, Counting Crows, Jimmy Cliff, Father John Misty and many more.
    In this episode, we discuss

    Dallas Childhood Memories

    Early Band Experiences

    Four Track Beginnings

    Michael Jackson Obsession

    Back to Future Influence

    Supportive Creative Family

    Unique School Experience

    Discipline

    College Music Degree

    Early Audio Awareness

    Atmos Mixing Insights

    Texas State University

    Touring and College Life

    Sound Design Job

    Band Experiences Takeaways

    Respect for Bands

    Working with Passionate Clients

    Good Danny's Studio Journey

    Early Studio Challenges

    Austin Music Scene

    Daytrotter Sessions Impact

    South by Southwest Frenzy

    Live Recording Skills

    Move to Los Angeles

    Pandemic Mixing Shift

    Film Score Mixing

    Financial Ecosystem Differences

    LA Studio Setup Challenges

    John Congleton's Advice


    Matt's Rant: What If?
    Links and Show Notes

    Danny on Instagram

    John Congelton on WCA


    Credits

    Guest: Danny Reisch

    Host: Matt Boudreau

    Engineer: Matt Boudreau

    Producer: Matt Boudreau

    Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau 

    WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell 

    Announcer: Chuck Smith 

       

    • 1 hr 2 min
    WCA #496 with Don Zientara - Historical Significance, Studio Relocation, Curated Gear Choices, Surfing, and Staying Young, and Back to the Basement Where It All Started

    WCA #496 with Don Zientara - Historical Significance, Studio Relocation, Curated Gear Choices, Surfing, and Staying Young, and Back to the Basement Where It All Started

    My guest today is the return of producer/engineer/mixer Don Zientara. Don has been highly influential in the D.C. hardcore music scene for over 30 years for his work with iconic punk and rock bands, including Fugazi, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Jawbox, and The Evens. His contributions have been pivotal in shaping the sound of many Dischord Records artists.
    In this episode, we discuss

    Studio Relocation

    New Basement Setup

    Historical Recordings

    Studio Gear Changes

    Analog to Digital Shift

    Compact Studio Space

    Recording Challenges and Success

    Microphone Selection Strategy

    Digital Console Benefits

    Outboard Gear Preferences

    Lower Overhead Costs

    Promotion and Clientele

    Reflection on Studio History

    Neighborhood and Noise Management

    Surfing and Staying Young

    Selective Project Choices

    Client Reactions

    Control and Live Room Setup

    Communication in Studio

    Evolution of Punk Scene

    Consistent Studio Rates

    Historical Significance

    Industry Perception


    Matt's Rant: Beginning the Journey
    Links and Show Notes

    Don on WCA #106


    Don Zientara's Biography: Wikipedia



    Inner Ear Studio: Inner Ear Studio Official Website



    Rights of Spring: Rights of Spring - Wikipedia


    Credits

    Guest: Don Zientara

    Host: Matt Boudreau

    Engineer: Matt Boudreau

    Producer: Matt Boudreau

    Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau 

    WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell 

    Announcer: Chuck Smith 

       

    • 1 hr 10 min
    WCA #495 with Elliot Vaughan - City of Black Sabbath, Music In the House, Mission Impossible Night, and Persistent Learning

    WCA #495 with Elliot Vaughan - City of Black Sabbath, Music In the House, Mission Impossible Night, and Persistent Learning

    My guest today is Bristol, UK-based producer and mixer Elliot Vaughan, who has worked on projects by Frank Turner, Jason Ringenberg, Spunge, Ugly Kid Joe, Sonic Boom 6, The Wildhearts, Masca, and Hectares. Elliot is also an MPG Awards 2024 Breakthrough Producer Of The Year Nominee.
    In this episode, we discuss

    Bristol

    Miles to Kilometers Conversion

    City of Black Sabbath

    Birmingham Heavy Metal Roots

    Born Near John Bonham

    Mom's Bank to Nurse Career

    Dad's Ever-Changing Jobs

    Peacefully Divorced Parents

    Music In the House

    Piano Practice

    Hated Old Piano Teacher

    Drum Lessons to Escape Math

    Parents' Divorce Silver Lining

    Drums vs Piano

    Early Band Touring Adventures

    Recording Studio Misfit

    Mission Impossible Night

    Pro Tools Learning Struggles

    Band Tour Realization Moment

    Day Job at Museum

    Begging for Studio Time

    Faked Experience for Bands

    Building Reputation

    Persistent Learning


    Matt's Rant: Change of Heart
    Links and Show Notes
    Elliots site

    Credits

    Guest: Elliot Vaughan

    Host: Matt Boudreau

    Engineer: Matt Boudreau

    Producer: Matt Boudreau

    Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau 

    WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell 

    Announcer: Chuck Smith 

       

    • 1 hr 10 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
195 Ratings

195 Ratings

Theo in SD ,

A Unique View of the Audio World

This is my favorite podcast related to audio production because it’s not talking about gear incessantly. It’s digging into the unique backgrounds of so many different producers and engineers and the obstacles they’ve overcome to achieve success in a tough profession without a defined framework at times. As someone working in a non related profession by day and pouring tons of time into my music at nights and on weekends, it’s inspirational to hear from many known and unknown people in the audio world with different paths to success. Matt is a great interviewer, he doesn’t talk over his guests, keeps the focus on track and from becoming too tangential while allowing the guests space to dig into their stories. I look forward to every Monday when a new episode drops!

Mystic Fig ,

Great audio engineering podcast for everyone else

Really great insights into the real world of audio engineering. Matt brings a refreshingly grounded take on the recording business, and unlike some other audio engineering podcasters, he asks questions and gets out of the way to let his guests answer.

JRG_666 ,

I’m so stoked to have this.

Hey just wanted to say that this is my new fav podcast. Going through most of the back logs. WOW. So much great info.
Thanks Matt and the WCA team for sharing what you do!

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